gosioux76
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That's a great point. I think having two spring leagues will really test the theory that there's an abundance of talent just waiting for a shot.
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Based on the tweet shared a few posts above this, the USFL suggests the Bandits are only on hiatus. Naturally, that would require the league to be around for another season beyond this next one, but at least there's hope.
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I'd like to think that someone, somewhere has done some sort of risk assessment and concluded that the revenue from these programs is more substantial (at the moment) than what would be lost in brand dilution to this point. I'd also like to think that such analysis would be ongoing, and at some point would lead to the conclusion that the risk eventually outweighs the revenue. It's also possible I'm putting too much faith in the process.
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I shouldn't have to say this, but it's possible to be both things. It can be designed for the local market, while sold globally, and those things don't need to be mutually exclusive. It doesn't change the fact that the theme of this jersey in specific, and the entire City Edition series in general, was to create looks that evoke local/regional pride.
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I don't think it's unreasonable that you didn't know about the carpet. I don't think that's the point. I do, however, think it's unreasonable to act like it's a silly idea or, "bottom of the barrel," without knowing its relevance to the local community. There are very few of these hyper-local City Edition uniforms that I care for, but I'm self-aware of the fact that they also weren't meant for me -- they were designed for the people in those cities. And certainly, some of these are going to be misses. This Portland one just doesn't happen to be one of them.
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That's the one. I guess it wasn't orange and black, so it wasn't the same helmet. Reminded me of this one, though.
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Louder this time, since I posted this earlier in the thread.: While the news release didn't say so directly, people in Minnesota are familiar with Minneapolis' singular "iconic" structure that features type on the side, similar to the type used on this jersey. It's the Foshay Tower. You can tell by the "S." That's not to say the rollout of this wasn't a disaster. It's just not true that nobody knows which building they're referring to.
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This is going to sound weird, but I believe i've seen a version of this helmet in, of all places, the Oregon Zoo. It's been several years since I lived in Oregon, but we used to go to the zoo all the time when my kids were small. And one exhibit -- can't recall the exact species of animal -- had a helmet like this on display as some sort of an illustration of how the animal attacked with its head, I believe. I could be wrong on that detail, but I definitely recall seeing a black and orange helmet with a logo like this. (And no, it wasn't an OSU Beavers helmet.)
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But that's the thing, this typeface ... ... isn't THAT far off from what was used to make the '80s Jets logo in general style ... ... that it couldn't be adapted to look like it more directly. I don't have the graphic design skills, but the type is already angled. It would seem reasonable that you could just ditch the football, extend the "J" and replicate the jet flying above "ETS."
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100% agree. The only mistake they made was in not bringing back, or at least modernizing, the old helmet wordmark. And as someone else said, they could ditch the black versions.
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I can't disagree with you, but it's worth pointing out that a number treatment like that might solve the whole "lack of white" problem on their uniforms. These would likely stand out much more under indoor lighting than the non-shiny gray numbers do now.
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My first impression is that this will play heavily off the 70s-80s double-knit era style.
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But as this discussion seems to suggest, their language was vague enough to cause at least some people to question their intent. You're 100% right that it would seem unfathomable that they would intentionally embrace a polarizing topic, and that probably wasn't their intent. Nevertheless, if it raised the attention of people on these boards as being something untoward, then it stands to reason they're not alone. For that reason alone, intent aside, it's a poorly communicated marketing message.
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I could never tell if the Showboats helmet logo was supposed to be the paddle of a steamboat or a roulette wheel. I guess if it's a riverboat casino, it could be both. Regardless, I always found it to be one of the USFL's more underwhelming helmet designs. That wordmark, however, is really clever. I'd much rather see a helmet made to use that "S."
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I'm not the biggest fan of the Ducks' colors in general, but I think the reason why this might look appealing to some people isn't because its good, but because it's different. And different doesn't always equal great. Orange should feel vibrant, but there's something about pairing this darker shade of it with the dingy gold/bronze that makes the whole thing seem drab. Maybe it's the time of year, but it makes me think of a picked-over pumpkin patch. I think these colors work best as accents to black.
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Side note that nobody cares about but me: My wife just bought me this BP jersey and I completely adore it. I'm with you on '80s BP styles in general. I live in St. Louis, and the Cardinals have a game-day promotion featuring BP jerseys just like this, only not embroidered and featuring a classic players' nickname on the back. They had several players, distributed as "mystery jerseys," and I ended up with a Musial one that says "The Man" on the back. I'm not a Cardinals fan, but I wear it just because of that nickname. (Cards have the best giveaways.) Most teams in the '80s, an era in which most teams only had home and away jerseys, did an incredible job of creating simple, but unique BP alternates. By the '90s, the Twins (and others) simplified them too much by removing any sleeve and collar striping to leave it as a plain Navy mesh shirt with their home script. This '80s Padres one has always been one of my favorites.
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My suspicion is that the T looks off-white is because this is an edited version of New Era's Southwest-inspired caps. But that's just a guess.
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It's like a Harlem Globetrotters intra-squad game.
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Hate is a strong word. More like a “casual dislike.”
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Are you referring to the old Lions uniforms? If so, which set of uniforms of theirs screams "winners?"
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This is a great explanation. This is a complicated situation, particularly because of how closely we associate teams with the players. But this is an instance where it's better to explain it in terms of business entities and remove the people from the equation, the way @CDCLTdid here.
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I had the opposite reaction to the Phillies removal of powder blue in 1989. I was 13 and remember feeling as if the Phillies had made a notable shift toward bland. The gray didn’t look bad, it was just character-less when compared with the powder blue.
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MLB Stadium Saga: Oakland/Tampa Bay/Southside
gosioux76 replied to So_Fla's topic in Sports In General
That's an interesting thought. I realize we're talking about two different sports — comparing baseballs to hockey pucks, so to speak – but I wonder if this Coyotes small-venue experiment eventually becomes a success whether it'll prompt other leagues to look more openly at short-term, stop-gap solutions like this. How many times have we handicapped a potential relocation market by saying they don't have a big-league-ready venue? Say Phil Knight suddenly decides he wants to own a Major League Baseball team in Portland. The lack of ownership has only been one part of the equation. A market also had to have a venue and before, we'd never have considered Ron Tonkin Field, home of the Hillsboro Hops, as a viable short-term venue, at least not without millions spent on improvements. Could the Coyotes example change that? I'm not suggesting it would. I have no idea. Just tossing out a thought experiment. -
The addition of the Gateway Arch is cool, though I feel like the shrinking down of the sword makes it look too stubby. One possible and (probably) unintended side effect of that, however, is that the sword can be interpreted as looking like an angled side view of the Arch.
