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Jack Johnson hated living in LA for all the regular reasons people hate living in LA. Plus, I don't think his attitude fit in with the rest of the dressing room. The irony now is that Jack Johnson was excited to get to Columbus because he'd be closer to family, but as it turns out moving closer to Michigan just meant they were now able to literally steal money out of his pockets rather than stealing from him from across the country through shadier channels. and f*** Jeff Carter forever, but if there was ever a hockey player born to play for Los Angeles, it's that douche. Those two are a match made in d***head heaven.

I really like this. Only gripes: They're called the Black Bears, but it feels like more emphasis was placed on the mountains. Also, if they must use the baseball sun it should be have a black outline around it to maintain consistency with the other outlines throughout the logo. That white butting up against the blue is visually jarring for this reason and looks unfinished. And in this context it'd be okay to use a yellow baseball. Not everything has to be literal all the time. I mean, West Virginia's mountains aren't actually black and light blue either. But overall, really nice job. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the package.

I wouldn't classify what the Kings wear as "Bettman piping". This is Bettman Piping

The blue pants weren't a completely terrible idea. Would've been okay with some white socks with stripes that matched the sleeve stripes. The gray socks ruin it.

Was rooting for that outcome. Too bad it didn't happen. Yeah, that would have been awesome. Don't know how it "would've looked bad on the NFL" for those teams to play each other. Because it would've called into question whether the integrity of the sport was compromised by an artificial and unfair stacking of the two newest franchises that previously existing franchises weren't afforded due simply to their seniority. Even Carolina going 7-9 in their first year and both those teams making the conference championship in their second year caused people to question whether the league made it too easy for the Panthers and Jaguars. That led to more difficult expansion parameters applied to the Browns and Texans. The league decided they were never going to make it that easy on an expansion team ever again.

Regarding Kerry Collins and the Panthers, I forgot they wore blue socks with their silver pants and black jerseys in their first season. Related: It would've been really weird and would've looked bad on the NFL if the Panthers and Jaguars had played each other in the Super Bowl in their second years.

The Bucs appeared different in 1980 as well. That was the only year the Bucs wore orange numbers outlined in red. They've worn red numbers every year since.

I'd say Kerry Collins in this order: 1. Giants - because he took them to a Super Bowl by way of a well publicized thrashing of the Vikings in the NFCCG and then played like ass in said Super Bowl. That made an indelible image of him with the Giants for me. 2. Panthers - He was around for the beginning of a new cool looking franchise and took the new guys to the NFCCG in 96. 3. Penn State - went undefeated his senior year 4. Titans - had that one random good season. Lost to the a$$holes from baltimore at home in the division round. 5. Raiders - I forgot he played for them 6. Colts - I had no idea he played for them.

Would Milwaukee even be considered a 4 sport town? People sort of give them the Packers, but that's almost two hours away. I don't doubt that most Milwuakeeans are also Packers fans, but I've always thought of it more as Wisconsin's team than anything. If I'm reading the pulse of Milwaukee like I think I am I think the potential NHL team would instantly be more popular than the Bucks simply by not having a history of angering the city. So they'd be second behind the Brewers, which is fine because they play in different seasons.

You were outraged enough about this to post it in two threads. If you cared this much about the All-Star game MVP you could've twitter voted for Tavares as many times as you wanted.

Their travel is probably more rigorous. Every game is a road game for the officials and I'm willing to bet some teams officiate more than 82 games in a season.

This one is impressive. Nice find. Here's something more: the Vikings have worn a different uniform the last three times they've played the Bengals. That's 2005 above. Here's 2009 and here's 2013

As a kid with no soccer knowledge when the MLS started I thought United was a 90's-tastic singular nickname as in Dallas Burn, Miami Fusion, Tampa Bay Mutiny, Columbus Crew, etc. It wasn't until 2004 or 2005 when I realized it was more like Manchester United.

BTW, everytime I read this thread title I think "MY NAME IS WAKEFIELD GOTTA BOX FULL OF YOUR TOYS"

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Florida is averaging 8,981 http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

2003. The only time this uniform matchup happened. Last year of those Bengals uniforms, sadly, and the second year for the Seahawks slate blue uniforms. Bonus points for the rarely-worn white over blue pants combination. When they played again in 2007 and 2011 the Bengals were in road whites on top of black pants and the Seahawks were in slate blue monochromes. so I guess that's a rare matchup as well.

Every hockey game I've ever been to has done that. When I was in Everett last Saturday a bunch of us were standing at the top of the stairs waiting for play to stop and big ol doofus I don't know anything comes strolling by, through all of us, and walks down the stairs to his seat. "yeah we're all just choosing to stand up here, pal"

Can I nominate this for post of the day?No. Let me explain how Post of the Day works - You must be invited to the council of 12. Once then you have to propose a vote by writing a handwritten letter to each member of the Council of 12. The 37 member council meets in a secret location 4 days after the postage date on said letter (not Toronto, I'll tell ya that much). From there they each cast yay or nay votes on the proposed post by placing a photo of the new Blue Jays uniforms (yay) or a photo of the new Tampa Bay Buccaneers uniforms (nay) into a box. Chris Creamer himself reads the votes. If 69% (this is an internet message board) of the vote dictates that said post is worthy of PotD then all 19 keyholders must simultaneously turn their matching keys on a second box where a flashdrive holding the png file of the PotD belt is kept. Then it is up to one of the keyholding members to feel like going through the trouble of responding to said post with the image of the belt. Acheiving Council status is very difficult. One way to assure you'll never be on the council is to nominate lame posts for Post of the Day. Nevermind, this is PotD worthy! Quick question, why is a 37 member council known as the Council of 12? Was it originally just 12 guys, and 15 more were added later or something like that?stop trying to make sense of it, kid. Trying to understand the council is another way to never get on the council.

Can I nominate this for post of the day?No. Let me explain how Post of the Day works - You must be invited to the council of 12. Once then you have to propose a vote by writing a handwritten letter to each member of the Council of 12. The 37 member council meets in a secret location 4 days after the postage date on said letter (not Toronto, I'll tell ya that much). From there they each cast yay or nay votes on the proposed post by placing a photo of the new Blue Jays uniforms (yay) or a photo of the new Tampa Bay Buccaneers uniforms (nay) into a box. Chris Creamer himself reads the votes. If 69% (this is an internet message board) of the vote dictates that said post is worthy of PotD then all 19 keyholders must simultaneously turn their matching keys on a second box where a flashdrive holding the png file of the PotD belt is kept. Then it is up to one of the keyholding members to feel like going through the trouble of responding to said post with the image of the belt. Acheiving Council status is very difficult. One way to assure you'll never be on the council is to nominate lame posts for Post of the Day.

We've done this a thousand times on this board so I won't get into my origin story (I'm from Cincinnati/Columbus) But since moving to Seattle I've really taken a liking to the Mariners and Sounders. Safeco field is awesome and I love the Mariners' identity. Teal is one of my favorite colors and they're really moving back to it as of late. Also the energy around the Sounders is cool and while I'm not a huge soccer fan I've found myself watching their games on TV. I'm going to try to go to their playoff game on November 10th. I find Seahawks fans somewhat annoying and jumping on the bandwagon of the defending super bowl champions goes against everything I stand for. Plus I find it's more acceptable to have a second team in baseball than it is in football. If they ever get an NBA team that'll be my #1 NBA team and if they ever got an NHL team here that'll be my second favorite NHL team.

Right. People are pretty much the same everywhere and people like hockey. When done the right way people really like hockey. I don't think Florida is allergic to the sport. I just think the Panthers are really poorly run in a market that requires you to be well run if you wish to be even marginally successful. The Panthers though are fighting an uphill climb for several reasons: 1. They're fifth fiddle at best in what is arguably the worst sports market in the country. Miami doesn't go to college football games, they don't go to NFL games, they don't go to major league games, and they leave NBA finals games early. The only time they do turn out is when the team is deep in the playoffs, which lately the Panthers have not been. 2. They don't play in Miami. They play in a suburb where a bunch of old people live. It's the exact same problem as Glendale. 3. it's a chicken-egg thing, but they haven't won since 96. When you win people come out (unless you're Glendale) and unless you're Toronto or Montreal when you lose people stay away. NHL players don't want to play for a team that draws 8,000 a game and the team drawing 8,000 a game has a hard time winning to attract more fans when they're drawing 8,000 a game. Winning begets winning and losing begets losing. 4. Their TV numbers are abysmal. So they have to correct all of that before they even get to the same level as other teams so they can compete fairly. I don't think the market is worth saving, however. South Florida sucks and the people would rather do a thousand things before they go to a hockey game. Move the team somewhere people want them.

I take the bus past Key Arena on my way home every day and it's strange. There's like no parking and if you didn't know it was there you would miss it. The hockey setup is worse even than the Barclay's center. It would absolutely have to be a temporary facility while they build the new arena in SODO, but that's still preferable to their situation in Glendale. I live a mile away so I'd probably walk to games all the time. Come on, Coyotes, let's get moving to the northwest!

I know this is the unpopular opinions thread, but sometimes opinions are wrong. Those straight nameplates lack any of the elegance or dignity of the arched nameplates. They also use a really clunky font.

Um, yes, there were striping inconsistencies. The helmet, sleeves, and collar/pants all clearly use different striping patterns.I do agree with your point about the road uniforms being too red-heavy. However, when that set was first introduced, they had the perfect solution: The Jim Kelly uniforms at first had blue-red-blue pants stripes. After a while they corrected this and put the helmet stripe on the white pants, but because it's a white base you couldn't see the white stripes. It was very consistent. The sleeves used double stripes, but by the end of that uniform only the kickers were still wearing the double stripes. Every other player had a single red-white-red stripe of similar thickness to the pants. Couldn't be more consistent if you tried. Also those uniforms kicked ass. I wish they still wore them.