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I would be a little hesitant to say where the Sabres are actually at right now. Or anyone for that matter.
 

The Sabres looked like they were breaking out of the slump a couple of years ago too, until it all came crashing down on the back half of the year. Same for the Ducks last year. Two weeks into the season isn’t going to define where clubs are really headed. Can you get an idea? Sure. But there’s still WAYYYY to many games left to be played. 

1 hour ago, ebod39 said:

Nope.

Nope what??? 
 

1 hour ago, DTConcepts said:

 

The Wild definitely had that problem until Adidas took over. The Red home, green alt, and both white roads all felt very distinct. But now I think that the Wild have a really good set that work well with each other. The striping is the same on the arms and socks, and finally uses the primary logo front and center on both. 

I feel like the Canucks are going to have to add left sleeve numbers. Broadcasters might have a hard time with that, even if they have the numbers on the left chest. I actually do like that look, because it adds to the 60’s-ness to the design, but I would imagine they’ll have to add left numbers anyways. 

They should have gone crazy, and done orange breezers and gloves. 

1 hour ago, DTConcepts said:

 

Interesting note, but I think the Leafs are the first team to use the faux-vintage Adidas collar on a non-Winter Classic jersey.

The Bruins current fauxback alt has that winter classic like collar. 
 

I actually like most of these. While some are not better than the previous versions, I think most look great. 
 

I really like the Ducks, Flames, Oilers, mostly the Panthers, LA, Minnesota, Nashville, the Rangers, I love Philly’s Cooperalls, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Vancouver, Vegas, and I absolutely love Toronto. The fauxback collar, skinny shoulder yoke, and a felt crest and numbers??? I want one of these, and I don’t really care that much for the Leafs. Just a brilliant reverse and retro design. They nailed it. 
 

Things that drive me nuts tho? 
The Habs and Blue Jackets not including red in the striping anywhere. And the Panthers with plain navy and white numbers. They don’t really contrast well with the jersey. 
 

The Islanders striping now looks like the safety vest stripes. And why would the ditch the lighthouse patches?? 
 

Detroit is also another very confusing decision. Carolina’s is also ridiculous. I guess we have a full set now for them. And no primary logo

Every other one is just kinda meh, but it works…

Lou’s like “Fine, we’ll use that stupid fisherman logo again. But make the jerseys even uglier than the first time, so people hate it even more.” 

Well I did this but as a YouTube video on my channel. 

Let me know what you think!!

I would go with the red heavy and split striping for the road jersey, along with the black shoulder yoke. I would also complete the set with the original red jersey you made! That would probably be the most coherent set IMO. They all look great tho!

I feel like the digital ads would be fine if they mimicked the other dasher ads. Just plain, motionless, and had to be white background based. But unfortunately they’ve got all of these motions and moving graphics that distract from the puck. 
 

Also you’d think that the “massive” increase in revenue from these new dasher boards would help keep the ads off the jersey. 
 

Maybe they should just dump all advertising at the arena, and make it all digital, including the jersey ads. So that way we can at least enjoy a real game ad free. You gotta pay the upgrade to live to get it ad free lol

So the Wild are now the worst defensive team in the league? 14 goals allowed in two games. 
 

#TankForBedard

1 minute ago, VampyrRabbitDesign said:

It's not, because I never said anything about changing the actual shirt, just the pants colour. A better comparison would be changing the cap colour to white or wearing navy pants. In both cases, the actual shirt is left alone.

FTR, I would leave the Yankees Uniform well alone, It is The Most Recognisable Uniform in Sports.

Anyway, we are talking about the Canes here, and if they have (almost) the same jersey, with the same colour helmet and gloves, just with black pants instead of red pants with black hem trim, then they would still look like the original Hurricanes.

 

If it's a throwback, then they should definately have had those black hem trims though. But in a few years when they make that jersey the new home, which will happen sooner or later, it's happened with many other teams going back to an original Jersey, then going to black shorts would probably be an improvement.

 

I guess what everyone else, and myself is saying is that if you change the color of the breezers, than the color blocking is completely different, therefore it doesn’t look like just the original Hurricanes.
 

There are small things like the black cuffs on the red breezers that are missing, but if the original hurricanes were red from head to sock, changing that color in the middle would be missing the point of the throwback. 
 

In any sport, if a team wanted to do a throwback, but randomly changed the color of the pants, then it wouldn’t really be a throwback to that look, even if the shirt is the same color. 

57 minutes ago, VampyrRabbitDesign said:

It would still have the same shirt details apart from the collar, the same shirt colours, the same logos, so it wouldn't be something entirely different.

 

With black pants, it would still look like the original Hurricanes. Not as high as 97 percent, but still a pretty high number. If the Canes do make it their home jersey again, then black pants would look better than red ones.

 

Or for the logo to be covered in blood after a fight.

Well the black breezers are something they never had until the original black Reebok alternate. So it wouldn’t really be a throwback if they did something they never did.
 

The collar isn’t something a casual fan would notice. In fact, their original jerseys only had single colored names, until 2000, but these throwbacks are supposed to the inaugural look. Again, something a casual fan wouldn’t notice. 
 

But black breezers?? Casual fans would notice, and know that they didn’t wear them with that set. You can argue for whether or not black breezers look better than red ones, but the true throwback has to be with red breezers and not black. So no they would not look like the original hurricanes if they wore black breezers with the original red sweaters. 
 

It would be like saying if the Yankees decided to have red pinstripes instead of navy. Would they look like the Yankees? No. Would it look good? That’s a different question…

31 minutes ago, wildwing64 said:

 

I still think a white and orange '93 Mighty Ducks jersey is what we'll be seeing for the Reverse Retro, but it's interesting that he focuses on a white version of the current third instead - but the only way that even fits the retro theme is if they call it a 2015 throwback. I guessed about them maybe testing the waters this way earlier in the thread, but admittedly that's also wishful thinking on my part.

 

 

Chris from Icethetics also reported that the reverse and retro part of some teams new Reverse Retros seem to bend those rules. Like Vegas’s leaked RR. So maybe it’s a reverse of the current alt for the Ducks

12 hours ago, tBBP said:

 

$5,201.36.

 

Especially since these came out about three years back (& I've seen quite a few on fans at the Twins games I've gone to):

 

I mean we obviously love Prince here, but I would be really disappointed if the city connect jersey was just a Prince jersey. There’s so much more to the Twin Cities and to Minnesota that they could work with.

And like @simtek34 said, that’s pretty much what I would want as a Twins fan as well. Ditch the gold, clean up the wordmarks, and never touch the TC. 
 

However, having powder blue become a primary color could be cool. 
 

I hope this update is much like the Padres, where it’s more of a solidifying of the permanent look, rather than trying to tweak and update some random things…

23 hours ago, johne9109 said:

Nashville Predators

 

I think the Preds have one of the more underrated uniforms in the NHL right now and only gets the hate is does because they have bold color choices. So the home and away are kept intact. The home alternate is a take on their original uniforms with the away alternate being based on the teams previous Reverse Retro. The home and away throwback uniforms are based on the teams winter classic uniforms

 

 

No… The Preds jerseys are bad. The striping is boring and significantly worse than the Reebok edge set. Of all the teams to change the primaries, you should have changed the Preds. 

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What do tradional jerseys look like?

Traditional sweaters usually have vertical stripes on the sleeves and then across the hem, with a logo front and center for most NHL teams, (College hockey, high school hockey, and other lower tier hockey tend to have jerseys with wordmarks and sometimes numbers on the front. See Boston University, and look up Hermantown hockey, or Edina hockey, two high school hockey powerhouses in Minnesota). And a lot of traditional hockey sweaters will have shoulder yokes as well. Shoulder patches are also typically included on both shoulders. The big thing about traditional sweaters is that the peak design era of this “traditional” style is probably around the 60’s to the 80’s. Before this, the patterns on jerseys were often closer to what’s called the Barberpole style, and stripes were just every where. Take a look at the Chicago Blackhawks of the 40’s and 50’s and then look at them again in the 60’s. NHLUniforms.com is a great place to look at the past styles and designs. 
 

Some very traditional designs in the NHL today are the Montreal Canadiens, Detroit Red Wings, New York Rangers, Chicago Blackhawks, Boston Bruins, and the Toronto Maple Leafs. Of course, these are the “Original 6” teams, and will look the most classic. But other teams like the Buffalo Sabres and Calgary Flames both have really traditional uniform styles rn. 
 

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What do modern jerseys look like?

Modern jerseys tend to in a sense, chase trends. Unique little details in the jerseys, like patterns in the stripes, custom number fonts, and usually curved, non-typical striping is included. See the Washington Capitals or Nashville Predators. But one of the newest trends on new uniform designs is heavier striping on the arms, and a little less on the hems. The Kraken, Golden Knights, and the Ducks third jersey follow this design style. 
That’s another trend that modern styles tend to follow, they’ll be missing tail stripes. See the New Jersey Devils, and the San Jose Sharks now previous set. The Sharks went as far as saying that the hem stripes added more weight and slowed players down, which of course is ridiculous. A lot of the reasoning with that is actually from the Edge template. 
 

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What is the Edge template, and why do we hate it?

The Reebok Edge template was a new style of cut for hockey jerseys. They debuted when Reebok took over the NHL jersey manufacturing in 2007. (Ironically, CCM, the previous manufacturer, was owned by Reebok at the time, and both were owned by Adidas, the current manufacturer. Adidas is stepping down in a couple of years, and while most people are quick to assume Nike, CCM is actually owned by someone other than Adidas now, so don’t sleep on them.) It was much tighter, suppose to be better at moisture wicking, and the jerseys were designed to be tucked in. They even had rounded hems, similar to dress shirts that get tucked in. This lead to many NHL teams removing hem stripes on their sweaters, going to side panels, piping, faux-shoulder yokes, or some weird combo of all of them. Some teams even kept their previous designs, but only took off the hem stripes. 
 

A lot of people hated the lack of hem stripes, and the NHL even banned tucking in jerseys a handful of years ago, rendering the curved hem useless. Some teams quickly added back the hem stripes like the Maple Leafs, but many teams stuck with bad designs for a while. 

The other problem was the actual TEMPLATE that Reebok presented to people. It was literally click-n-fill unless teams said otherwise. The now-moved Thrashers’ road jersey was the same template as the Philadelphia Flyers, and the Penguins, Senators, and Lightning all had the same style jersey. (which was ridiculously ugly. It had colored under arms, and a blob of color on top as the “stripe”. It also had some weird back triangles that could be randomly colored at a teams digression.) So while the edge uniform cut was actually really nice once teams had the freedom to create their own looks, it was really bad to start, because it ruined the hockey aesthetic, trying to push random patches of color on the jerseys, rather than just some cut modifications. 

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Who has the best uniforms in the league?

It’s totally opinionated, but some of the best are the Habs, Rangers, Red Wings, and Blackhawks. I personally also really like the Wild, Islanders, and Sabres sweaters. 
 

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Who has the worst?

Also opinionated, but I would have to say someone like the Los Angeles Kings, Nashville Predators, or the New Jersey Devils. 
 

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What is the best looking ice (court?) design?

Most teams only put their main logo across the center ice face off circle, and they’ll maybe change that up for an anniversary logo. Some teams like the Vegas Golden Knights have a lot of extra flourish on their center ice logo, but it can be hard to follow the puck if designs on the ice get too complicated. So most teams have fairly blank designs. 
 

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Do any of the design principals of bball and football apply to hockey? why or why not?

And not 100%. Maybe in the sense of a traditional design for football including stripes on the sleeves, but otherwise their just very, very different sports. In basketball it’s considered ugly to have shorts that don’t match, but that’s not the case in hockey. In fact, white breezers (the hockey pants) are just about the ugliest thing teams can wear. And there are a lot of teams that have breezers that are their third color, and they wear these on the home and road. The Blackhawks wear black breezers with their red home jersey and their white road sweater. This certainly wouldn’t happen in basketball, and only sometimes in football, like with the Packers and Steelers.

Another element is the gloves and socks of full sets as well. Teams typically wear one pair of gloves all across the board, but teams like the Golden Knights have experimented with different home and road gloves.  And the socks of most teams generally match the base of the jerseys, but their are some notable exceptions. The Bruins traditionally have worn gold socks with their home blacks, despite changing to black socks a few years ago. The Anaheim Ducks also have socks that are more orange than black for their home look. 
 

Helmets also are typically the same color whatever’s darker, the breezers or the jersey. So the Rangers wear red breezers, but have blue helmets at home, while the Blackhawks wear black helmets with their red homes, matching their black breezers. And white helmets always go with white jerseys. At least in the NHL. At really low levels, or for teams that play a small number of games, like international tournaments, you’ll see only one color helmet between all the sets. Most teams will go with dark, but it depends on the aesthetics of the team. USA hockey has been known to rock the white buckets with their dark jerseys for a while now, and the Edina Hornets, (MN high school hockey) also tend to wear their white helmets with their green jerseys, which themselves have a lot of white. 
 

When you get to College hockey, a lotta teams also tend to have one helmet. Many will match their football program, with teams like Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn state, all employing stripes that mimic their football programs classic look, but other programs like the Minnesota Golden Gophers only wear gold helmets with all of their sweaters. (And yes, those are all Big Ten hockey teams ) 

Hopefully this is a good amount of information on the aesthetics of hockey!! 

I can’t get over how amazing the teal buckets look for the Sharks. I guess I could take or leave the rest of the equipment. I do like the teal breezers and gloves, but man that helmet is something else. They should have gone with teal helmets since day one

5 hours ago, harney said:

 

Trousers

Football breezers

13 minutes ago, habsfan1 said:

 

This is what the current logo would look like with matching outlines.

 

That looks so much better and matches the  new shoulder patch perfectly. 
 

They still need to fix the knob on the stick tho 

2 hours ago, B-mer said:

Good find. Teal gear looks pretty good there. 
 

I got a head start making these for NHL04 rebuilt and overall not bad. Just did a color and striping layout test. Starting my acceptance journey early 
 

I like the CCM logo down the side of the Bauer breezers 

Edit: Never mind…

30 minutes ago, TrueYankee26 said:

I had like four bionacles with parts that were that exact shade of “grellow” growing up. All of those probably came out around 2008 too

1 hour ago, Ridleylash said:

They haven't dropped the grey, it's just their alternate now instead of their home.

Well from what I had heard, they’re getting a new third jersey. But there’s also the reverse retro being added, which would leave the grey sweater as the odd one out now. 
 

It definitely seems like they’ll be dropping that soon though. The gold and white jerseys match a little better than the grey and whites do. Plus the road has white gloves like the gold jersey, and the grey breezers would fit perfectly on the road too.  

1 hour ago, thesieve22 said:

How long before Vegas follows suit (sorry no pun intended) and switches to grey pants? They currently use them for their gold jersey and I think they would look good in the regular rotation 

My guess is that they’ll use the grey breezers on the road this year. If they’ve dropped the grey sweater, then the only black present on the set would be in the logo. The road white gloves are worn with the gold alts now primary homes.
 

They also seem to be adding the new black alternate breezers for the leaked reverse retro. 

4 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

New gloves for the Flyers. Could be tied to their RR, could just be an equipment change ala Colorado.

Those are really ugly. They should have been orange cuffs and not white ones…