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  1. Carolingian Steamroller
    It was 1956 I think. Right before the move to LA, making the Boston-style "B" the last cap logo for the Brooklyn Dodgers that was officially on record.
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    I kinda feel like the Cardinals should wear the navy blue cap with the cream alternate and just combine their two home alternates into one look. Somehow I feel like the Cardinals work best when they don't have too many unique on field looks.
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    That sort of bugged me when it came out but I've come around on the silver. Maybe, maybe I could see switching the position of the silver on the numbers to the outer rather than the inner outlining but that's not a deal breaker for me. I'm not sure what direction they're really going with the blue pants. Sometimes they're rolling with plain white socks, which looks good but they also have the navy socks with the red stripe, so not sure if there's a white equivalent. Overall, I think the post 2020 uniform looks quite good and returning to the Brady-era pattern of navy over silver at home and white over navy on the road definitely works for me.
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    Right, and therein lay the rub. In particular, the red rock design, though sharing fonts with the base design, was dramatically different in color tone and ornamentation from the base design. It did feel to me like at some point, they needed to pick a lane (see e.g. pre-2020 Brewers).
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    This is an interesting insight. You might be right though I would add that the Jazz suffered at the time for an embarrassment of riches. They had several themes in their brand that were all, on their own, really very nice: the basic set, red rock, 90's, classic 80's.
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    I don't think there's a good argument about a full Jazz rebrand since the new uniforms are broadly just a recolored version of the previous uniforms. They still have the angled stripes under the arm and on the shorts. The font is very similar (changing serifs but little else) and note logo is unchanged.
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    Nets do have a grey third uniform. (Called Concrete Grey on Lockervision).
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    Right, and also they're using grey/charcoal (not really silver) as the base color of an alternate jersey in GFGS fashion and not in any details/piping on the primary home and away uniforms tells you that it's not really the team secondary color like it is for the Spurs.
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    Midnight blue.
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    I suspected there was a Spurs reference there but wasn't 100% sure so just genuinely obtuse but I do not count the Spurs as black and white team because silver is very prominent. There are silver side panels on the black uniform, silver piping on the white uniform, and an entire silver (yes, I know its grey because of the fabric) uniform. I consider this to be fundamentally different from a strictly black and white team like the Nets. Indeed, the Nets are the only team in the Big Four of North American sports to wear strictly black and white like Juventus or Siena.
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    Vehemently disagree. The Nets are the only black/white team in the NBA and I feel like they did it right by focusing on the details. The herringbone pattern on the side stripes are great because its a detail that you can only really see up close but was matched by the original floor. The extra stripes on the collar, arm holes, and shorts break up the stripes. The font is well sized and spaced. They also given us gems like the charcoal retro BKLYN jerseys and the Notorious BIG alternates (one of my favorite things to come out of NBA uniforms in recent years).
  12. Carolingian Steamroller
    Here's a crazy thought, two years from now the Patriots will have worn the Flying Elvis (1993-2024) for longer than Pat Patriot (1961-1992).
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    Sometimes a convention of design can be broken so thoroughly and absurdly that it comes back around and becomes awesome. The Bledsoe era sleeve Elvis's are comically oversized but that's also what makes the cool.
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    From reading the press releases, it looks like the Jazz front office wanted to simplify the brand and go minimalist. There are no black and yellow teams in the NBA, despite that being a fairly popular scheme (Steelers, Penguins, Bruins..). The Salt Lake Bees wear black and yellow in the same market. And the Jazz have worn black and yellow in different combinations over the last two seasons.
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    Bears and Patriots actually played each other in the regular season in 1985, giving us this gem of a spectacle:
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    I think it's not so much silver as it is sublimated on the white/black jerseys. It's as close to the base uniform color as they can get. For the yellow uniform, the stripes are either white or the same slight silver as the white uniform. It looks like they want to evoke the previous design while going opting for a minimalist look at a distance.
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    It looks like the side view is keeping the current angled stripes, just rendered in grey scale.
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    In a literal sense, of course teams are identified by color scheme. We who played NBA Jam are well aware of that. However, the specific reference to those three teams is telling us something more. Lots of teams in the NBA have had long standing color schemes, however, he didn't mention the New York Knicks or Orlando Magic or Portland Trailblazers. He mentioned the three teams that, until last week, had won the most championships. The Bulls color scheme is great, but they aren't the only team in the NBA to wear red and black. They are the only team in the league to win six rings while wearing red and black.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-8lt9yxNdY Richard Dent says hello.
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    Those three teams have one thing in common: multiple rings. The Lakers have had other color schemes but only when they started making multiple finals appearances and winning titles did the purple and gold cement itself as THE Lakers brand. Without Magic and Kareem, would the Lakers have attempted a rebrand in the 90's like the Jazz? If Utah beats the Bulls in one of those finals, do they ever move away from purple and blue (and brown and turquoise et al.)?
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    K, I'll bite. Because that style of stirrups has next to zero effect on the overall picture of the uniform. The pants are covering 90% of the stirrup. There's very little separating wearing stirrups like that, as opposed to going full pajama pants, which is why that changeover happened in the first place. To get that look to even work, you also need to wear your pants pretty tight, which looks chaffing and restrictive to me, at least for a game as leisurely as baseball. With stirrups (or even plain socks) showing above the calf, you get a nice burst of color (for the record, I don't like the late 70's style which was mostly strap either) that complements the cap and undershirts and provides an medium for colorful designs/stripes. From a purely person perspective, the players just look faster to me with knickers and plenty of sock showing.
  22. Carolingian Steamroller
    @Toodles1980 well that's a lot of interesting history. Thank you very kindly for that.
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    That's interesting because looking at that data, the Brewers wear their pinstripes and cream uniforms nearly the same number of times. 2021 was a 41-40 split and 2020 was 15-14 with pinstripes getting the extra game each season. Really they don't have a primary home. They have a weekday home and a weekend home. Sweet deal. Makes me happy because the pinstripes are one of my favorite uniforms in baseball right now.
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    Any chance you have a photo?
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    I believe the navy jersey has always been road only. They have two road jersey and two home jerseys. Pretty elegant way to divide it up. The whole rebrand has been terrific. Thinking about investing in the all navy cap myself for trips North.
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