The CBL: 16/32 Updates

[VampyrRabbit]

The Threshers name, logos and colour scheme seem totally at odds with the age of the ballclub and Chicago itself - the two shades of green seem so out of place for an over 100 year old team and one from Chicago. The name and logo feel more like a team that started in a much smaller midwest city than Chicago then moved, and the colours used feel more like the ones used for a late 90s/early 2000s expansion franchise than one of the oldest teams in the league.

Two shades of green is a difficult combo to get right, and I don't feel like both of the combos here come close, the dark shade is literally just green on the RGB scale when it needs at least some blue on that scale so it doesn't look like crap, and the lighter green first used has the same problem. The second shade used is less nasty, but it still looks far from pleasant. I would just change the colours to something else than two shades of green.
 

[teeray01]

Since the Oakland A's were mentioned it makes me wonder how it would look in those colors.

[thesieve22]

Here's Chicago in A's colors, not sure which I like more but leaning toward the kelly green set. Thoughts?

[thesieve22]

Brief disclaimer: I realize this looks very similar to the WNBA Comets secondary. I created this team and logos without realizing they existed. If you think I should try again for Houston because of the similarity, let me know, but this was not copied from the WNBA.

 

Onto the Houston Comets! A 1975 expansion team, Houston has had several redesigns over the years with the most recent being in 2017, when they updated to the current logos. The comet in the secondary logo lies on Houston. The Comets have yet to win it all, although they have had 14 playoff berths. They currently sit 3rd in the in the American West Division, I will post a standings update in the nearish future. C&C welcome

[ThisIsFine]

I think the baseball it the Houston logos should be changed to white, it’s kind of ineligible from a distance.

[teeray01]

4 hours ago, thesieve22 said:

Here's Chicago in A's colors, not sure which I like more but leaning toward the kelly green set. Thoughts?

The Golden Yellow really pops off of the darker Green.

[teeray01]

39 minutes ago, ThisIsFine said:

I think the baseball it the Houston logos should be changed to white, it’s kind of ineligible from a distance.

Probably the best set so far along with Cincinnati.  I agree that the comet needs to be white for more contrast.

[VampyrRabbit]

Both of the green and gold colour schemes are good. I prefer the darker green though.

Just a heads up - on the darker green Threshers patch and ASG patch, there is still some of the previously used green.

[thesieve22]

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Here's Chicago with the darker green, it does look much better than the double green I tried to pull off. I'll take a look at updating Houston next

[thesieve22]

Here's Houston with the baseball white. Keep the comments coming!

[ThisIsFine]

The update for Houston really makes the brand that much better! And I’m a big fan of the new thrashers colors!

[thesieve22]

The Arizona Sheriffs are team number 16, which marks the halfway point of this series. I knew I wanted to do at least one team with vests, and Arizona seemed to fit the bill. I've gone through a couple different color schemes for AZ, I started with black and maroon but wanted to avoid maroon after Dallas. The logo is an "A" with a sheriffs badge. The Sheriffs joined in '51 and have won six Hanson Cups. They currently sit in first in the American West, 5 games up on the second place team and 10 up on Houston. 

[teeray01]

Chicago looks much better and Houston does to.

[sky1324]

The halfway point seems like a good time for me to give my thoughts. For the teams you've updated, I'm only looking at the newest version.

 

CIN: A good start. Purple and orange is an attractive color scheme and fitting of a city like Cincy. I don't think the logo needs the drop shadow you've given it, however - Just the C plus the "mohawk" for lack a better term. On orange it can be all purple and on the caps it can be all orange. No need for that extra orange stroke, either.

 

CLE: Solid. Very White Sox, which isn't a bad thing. I'd give the home wordmark a white stroke so that it stands out from the pinstripes a little better, like you've done on the black alternate. I think the stroke on the road could be thicker as well. The Nike logo appears to be a royal blue or purple, almost like it's a leftover from the Cincy set - is this intentional?

 

BAL: Hmm, not quite feeling this one. You mention that this is an old team, but the touches they have on their jerseys feel very modern. The skyline on the sleeves is one such example. The gold wordmark on the road doesn't fit at all, with the rest of the jersey or the home set. Sticking to red, black, and white (maybe with small gold highlights) would be the way to go in my opinion.

 

NY: New York looks good! I like the version of the logo you ended up with. I think the "Aces" wordmark is slightly off-center to the right. I also don't like the double orange on the socks - that feels like a holdover from an older version of the team.

 

KC: The colors you've selected are way too bright. Both the blue and the yellow need to be brought back. This is true of more than a few teams you have - I'd suggest referencing TruColor.net and sampling colors that real teams use. It'll give you that sense of realism. Beyond the colors, the logo needs a little more work. The K and C should actually interlock, not just have the C overlaid on top. Fix those two things and you've got a nice, classy set.

 

TB: The shade of cyan is obnoxiously bright, especially on the alt. You might be better served dropping it entirely. For the road jersey I'd suggest an all-navy crown instead of the cyan taco you have now (reference the Orioles' road jersey). I think the cyan and pink clash too much on the navy alt - replacing cyan with white would help a lot here in my opinion. The rest is a nice set, I especially like the scripts you're using. They feel very beach-y.

 

DAL: I love this set. Really nice colors, wordmarks, and the throwback is pure class. I think my only critique would be the logo - snakes don't bend like that. Especially for an older team as well, I think using a D for Dallas would make more sense, but either way the curve of the snake needs a revisit.

 

BOS: I really only have one problem with this set again, and it's the logo. I'm not feeling the connection from statue of pilgrim -> governor -> Irish color scheme. Maybe a simple roundel (see: Texas Rangers or Oakland Athletics) would do the job?

 

NO: Good call swapping from NOLA to NO. I think there should be more interaction between the letters here as well - like the O hooks around the stem of the N or something. I'm iffy on having NO at home and "PIRATES" on the road, but it's fine. The alts are great. The socks are.... strange. The striping doesn't match anything else in the set and is angled for some reason? Might be worth redoing. Outside the design, but a New Orleans team starting in 2005 might be the worst timing I can think of besides buying a home in 2007.

 

MTL: I like using powder blue here. The red is definitely too bright - check TruColor for a more accurate shade. I think the blue and red are blending too much in the piping on the home and road set. Maybe instead it could be red with a white inner stroke? I'm not huge on the powder cap on the road but I don't think red would be better, so maybe it has to stay powder. The Quebec alt is decent but the wordmark gets lost at a distance. Either give some more contrast between the powder and white or instead use a navy stroke to separate the wordmark from the piping.

 

FLA: This set is different but I like it! It feels like a natural conclusion for the current "Sun Rays" branding that the real-life Tampa Bay uses. I'm not sure why the Florida flag patch changed color between the home and road? I think the version with the navy stripes is better. The powder blue doesn't contrast well enough with gold or white. I also think you might be able to drop the "Fla" from that logo as well. Nice work here!

 

CHI: Thank goodness you updated the color scheme, because to be honest, the original one was awful. It was way too bright for any team, let alone a historic team from Chicago. This set is much better. It's basically the A's but the A's look great so no notes.

 

LA: This is a solid set. I like the bear logo and the colors. I'm undecided on the wordmark. It doesn't feel right to be. Maybe a more traditional block set would fit better? I'm also not sure how that gold set would actually look on the field - usually translations of colors like those don't look so great as the main color of a jersey. The Nike logo is also incorrectly colored on this set.

 

MIN: A really nice set all around. Love the rope striping, love the colors, love the logo. As a matter of personal preference I think I would like it more if the M logo was on at least the road cap. The navy over powder set works surprisingly well. Nice stuff!

 

HOU: Another great update. The white ball stands out so much more. I like the scheme, it feels very appropriate for Houston. I don't like how the logo is red on a red cap, the H gets lost. Try swapping orange and red for the cap logo. On the flip side, I actually think you should do the opposite for the Texas logo - orange stroke, red fill. I'd also lose the H patch on the right sleeve - it's already on the cap so there's no need for it on the jersey as well.

 

ARZ: This one's not doing it for me. I'm not a huge fan of the sleeveless jerseys and the color scheme is fine at best. Using both off-white and white on the same jersey is a bold choice that I firmly disagree with. The logo is also lacking in dynamism - the stroke weights are uneven (check where the purple points of the star meet the A) and the triangle used for the empty space in the A should follow the points of the star itself. I think this one needs another pass.

 

Overall nice work. I'm looking forward to the final 16!

[Bomba Tomba]

- Love the updated Threshers colors, I'm totally buying the cap with the yellow brim

- Nothing to say about the Comets, they're fine with me

- Not feeling both cream and white for the Sheriffs, maybe ditch one or the other (preferably the white) Also how would a purple cap with black brim look? If not as the main, maybe for the alt

[Blindsay]

On 7/29/2023 at 5:19 PM, thesieve22 said:

Houston has had several redesigns over the years with the most recent being in 2017

When you’re done with every team, I’d appreciate a logo history from the teams, to the All Star Games, Retired Jerseys, Championships etc.

[thesieve22]

@CDCLTThank you for the detailed feedback, much appreciated. Updated NY, KC, CIN, and CLE today. 

CIN: no drop shadow on the logo

CLE: added stroke on home, fixed mismatching nike logos

NY: centered wordmark, updated socks, you're right I forgot to fix those the first update

KC: Updated logo to have the KC interlock, updated colors

[thesieve22]

Another logo idea for AZ along the same lines. I know some angles and lines are a little off, just seeing if I'm on the right track. C&C welcome

[Bomba Tomba]

That A is really hard to see since you made it the same color as the rest of the badge

 

This is where I suggest you use more of the cream you had, so it would look like a gold badge

 

Then make it the home color as well, ditching white

[thesieve22]

Like this, or with the A purple and the rest cream? My only hesitation to get rid of white full time is Dallas also uses cream and they're relatively close

 

Here's a purple A with cream badge