Question about NHL's new shootout system

[PeytonManningRocks]

Okay, so I am one of those that loves to see a shootout, but I am a little skeptical on something and I'm wondering if any of you would know the answer to this question.

THE SCENARIO:

Let's say the Wings and Avs are tied 2-2 at the end of regulation. Neither team scores in the five-minute OT and the game goes to a shootout. In the shootout, let's say Joe Sakic and Alex Tanguay each score goals for COL, while Yzerman, Shanahan and Pavel Datsyuk score for the Red Wings. This means the Wings win the shootout, 3-2, and the game. Here's what I'm wondering:

A) since the Wings won 3-2 in the shootout, are they just going to add those goals to the score and make it 5-4 Red Wings, or are they just going to give an extra goal to DET for winning the shootout?

will the goals scored in the shootout count towards the stats of the players? What about the goals against for goalies?

I'm wondering this, and I'm hoping I won't be extremely confused come October

[Stampman]

It will show as 3-2. The shooyout goals will not count in the scoring race--although I'm sure somebody somewhere will keep stats on them.

[slapshot]

Shootout goals do not count for statistics for the goal scorers or goalies. They might be categorized separately under shootout-specific stats, but not under the regular season point total.

The team that wins the shootout is considered a one-goal winner. So the Red Wings win 3-2.

[CJR]

So the Red Wings win 3-2.

Woohoo!

Oh, um... Yeah, sorry about that, with the NHL having been out for so long, it's exciting just to read that even in a fictional situation.

[Stampman]

44 seconds ahead of JP!

and the Wings beating the Avs would help the Flames--so I'll echo yzerfan's sentiments!

[WJMorris3]

Datsyuk might get credit for a goal, assuming his goal was the winning one.

[ROCHitman]

Datsyuk might get credit for a goal, assuming his goal was the winning one.

As a high school & college sports official who would like to start hockey soon, I have done some research on the new NHL rules and how the officials will call games. Watching the Rangers/Isles preseason contest tonight confirmed much of what I learned.

I'll try to keep this short and abbreviated.

Game is tied after the 5 min. OT period. Teams get 2 minute on-ice break (no locker room). During the break, a swath of ice from goal to goal (3 zamboni widths wide) is dry scraped for the skaters. Coaches must submit to the Referee their 3 shooters. Should a team go up 2 goals to none, the 3rd shooter for each team shall not skate, Game is over.

No players will get credit for goals in a shootout, even game-winning goals.

The team itself is credited with 1 goal scored for (GOAL FOR) should they win the shootout.

In the case stated above, Datsyuk would not get credit for a goal.

Although i'd sure like him to (SEE BELOW!)

There were two things that really surprised me.

1. Shooters in the shootout have the option to remove their helmets.

I can only guess we are gonna see some hotshots who want face-time.

2. All NHL preseason games will have shootouts regardless of the final regulation score. It' to ease the transition of the new format for fans, players, and above all the officials.

[WSU151]

Shootout loss is considered an OT Loss, right? Losing team of a shootout still gets one point in the standings? And what happens if shootout ends 3-3 - does it go to sudden death?

[Stampman]

Shootout loss is considered an OT Loss, right? Losing team of a shootout still gets one point in the standings? And what happens if shootout ends 3-3 - does it go to sudden death?

Sudden death-yes.

Sudden death shoot out (which is what they should do to the shoot out.

[CJR]

1. Shooters in the shootout have the option to remove their helmets.

I can only guess we are gonna see some hotshots who want face-time.

I had assumed the league put that in there because they wanted the players to take off their helmets. The shootout is the part of the game that will for certain make Sportscenter, and the league wants everyone to be able to see their stars so they can market them, they don't want the players hiding behind helmets and visors that make them all look the same.

[ROCHitman]

1. Shooters in the shootout have the option to remove their helmets.

I can only guess we are gonna see some hotshots who want face-time.

I had assumed the league put that in there because they wanted the players to take off their helmets. The shootout is the part of the game that will for certain make Sportscenter, and the league wants everyone to be able to see their stars so they can market them, they don't want the players hiding behind helmets and visors that make them all look the same.

I think you are right on!

The league needs as much positive attention it can get.

[ROCHitman]

If anyone can locate the team stats for all the shootouts this preseason, I would greatly appreciate it. I am having no luck.

I ned it to complete my research on the NHL Shoout System.

Basically, I'm looking for team records in the preseason shootouts.

Have there been any undefeated teams AND have their been any winless teams in the shootouts?

THANKS!!!

[CJR]

I believe the Wings are 3-2 in shootouts (IIRC, they've won the shootout in every game they won in regulation). Dan Cleary, with the Wings on a pro tryout, is becoming one of the league's first shootout specialists, having scored in the shootout in three straight games.

That's all I've got.

Additionally, I don't think I've seen a single player take off his helmet for the shootout. So much for that marketing idea.

[ROCHitman]

Helmets are mandatory, No zambonis, and no form-fitting sweaters!!!

------- Cut from a yahoo news article------

Players have been told they must keep their helmets on for shootouts. Helmets were optional for some pre-season games but players kept their helmets on.

"Bad hairdos, I don't know," Campbell kidded when asked why players wouldn't choose to let the locks loose. "But we want consistency throughout the league so we're starting the season not allowing the players to take their helmets off."

The league has decided to have dry Zamboni scrapes before shootouts if they are necessary to break ties, Campbell added.

An attempt to have all goalies wear form-fitting sweaters, which would stop some goalies from wearing over-sized sweaters to help them stop pucks, has been shelved for now because the sweaters didn't arrive in time to allow players to get used to them, said Campbell.

"We've decided to go with the regular sweaters goalies have been using," he said. "We'll deal with this issue as the season progresses. We'd like to see them introduced at some point."

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