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Another thing no one likes is someone who constantly argues just for the sake of arguing. Take that however you'd like.

People aren't sick of hearing about Boston sports, boss. They're just sick of hearing about Boston sports from you.

That call was complete bull-. What an awful way to end a Super Bowl. Could have had a classic, but we got yet another "the refs decided the game" instead.

It's been fun watching the Eagles offense play the Chiefs defense. Maybe they can switch places in the second half. Then again, KC's offense and Philly's defense may have gone home already.

Interesting... Chiefs 31 Eagles 23

You're going to need to be more specific. Riley was a DB. A lot of different guys threw him the ball.

No one asked, but this is my take on this year's Pro Football Hall of Fame class. By the way, my HOF standards are know to be a tad on the high side. Ronde Barber: No. He was well known, but at no point did I ever think he was a dominant DB. Don Coryell: Yes. This is long overdue. The passing game we see to today is at least in part thanks to Don Coryell. He had success with both the Cardinals and the Chargers. The only reason it took so long is that we're obsessed with rings and he didn't win one. Chuck Howley: No. His claim to fame is he is the only player from the losing team to win the Super Bowl MVP. If he plays his career in Detroit instead of Dallas, he's Mike Lucci - who has roughly the same case for the HOF that Howley does. Joe Klecko: No. He's borderline at best. His claim to fame is playing for the "New York Sack Exchange" in the 80's. Pretty good player, but not what I'd call a HOF level great player. Darrelle Revis: Yes. Revis was the dominant DB in the NFL for a time and a damned good one throughout his career. Ken Riley: Yes. Another one that is long overdue. If Riley had played for the Cowboys, Raiders or Steelers, he would have gone into the HOF a long time ago. Joe Thomas: Yes. When O-lineman are on the ballot, I figure if I immediately know their name, they're probably a Hall of Famer. I got to see the entirety of his career. Everyone both in Cleveland and the national media always talked about how great Joe Thomas is. I know his name and he has the press. Good enough for me. Zach Thomas: It's a tough call, but I have to say no. Like Ronde Barber, Zach Thomas was a well known player, but he always struck me more as "the really good guy on the Dolphins" than the "this guy is kicking the out of everyone in the league" guy. I could be way off in that assessment, but that's how I remember him. DeMarcus Ware: Another tough call, but I'm going yes this time. He has similar numbers to LBs that I believe should be in the HOF. There you have it. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.

To paraphrase Bill Murray playing Hunter S. Thompson in the cinematic classic Where the Buffalo Roam* - "I'll believe Tom Brady is dead when I'm gnawing on his cold, dead skull." Until then, all bets are off. *I wouldn't be a bit surprised if I'm the only person on these here boards who has ever seen that movie.

No argument here. I'd already forgotten how bad those Browns uniforms were. Good Lord, what a disaster. Yes. Especially when it's prime time game.

Has it already been five years since the Lions last switch? Time really flies when you're old.

All due respect, but there's more to this than the "it makes money/ it, don't watch it" argument. Which do you think is better for the NFL product overall, Myles Garrett playing in the "Pro Bowl Games" and getting hurt or Myles Garrett playing 17 actual NFL games and selling #95 jerseys for the Browns next season? Sure, the "Pro Bowl Games" puts an extra few bucks in the NFL bank account, but are a few quick bucks worth the potential of losing much more money in the long term? Great players are risking injury for a carnival sideshow. This pointless nonsense is going to end up costing someone their career...again. (See Edwards, Robert) The Pro Bowl needs to end whether we watch it or not.

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Almost?

Let's go racin', boys.

Someone is stealing your ideas @BBTV.

Agreed. It still looked damned good, though.

Since this thread is active again, my choice for the "prettiest" Super Bowl.

I've always liked the "Chiefs huddle." More trivia: The Browns used it for a while in the 80's. They're the only other team I can remember using it. I'm sure there were others, but I don't remember them.

Let's revisit this in week 4 of 2023 when Purdy's elbow still hasn't healed and Trey Lance is still Trey Lance.

You "can actually do both." The real question is do you? You may not know this about me, but I just happen to be half "Native American." I am a direct descendant of people who were relocated to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears. My Grandmother contributed to a book on the subject. Does that get any of my credibility back? Or is that not enough for you? I stand by what I said: all the righteous indignation over "the chop" and all the other sports bull- is nothing more than meaningless virtue signaling. It doesn't do a single thing to help "Native American" people. Put your money where your mouth is.

Yeah, it really helps the people living on the Rez.

If any of you would like to do something that would actually help Native American people, here are a few suggestions... https://narf.org/about-us/ https://www.naha-inc.org/about/ https://www.aises.org/support Or you can just keep virtue signaling about chops, mascots, and team names. Carry on.

Accurate.

I'd never looked at it quite like that, Tony. But now that you mention it, I'd even go so far as to say that it applies to every game.