infrared41

No they're not.

Never has been. What's your point?

Three things always come to mind when I think of the White Sox. All the different uniforms they've had. Knuckleballer Wilbur Wood went 24-20 for the White Sox in 1973. Everyone made a big deal of him winning 20 and losing 20. The SI cover with Dick Allen juggling while smoking a cigarette in the dugout.

I thought it was pretty solid. These days, it would probably sweep the Oscars - which says more about the current quality of movies than it does about the quality of About Last Night.

It didn't hurt that every other movie in the 80s and early 90s was set in Chicago and the Cubs were in all of them. Rob Lowe (or something just like him) made being a Cubs fan look cool.

Seems like a step down in her career, but maybe the money at InfoWars is too good to pass up.

We'll see. I am happy to see Buescher get back to back wins.

These days Wood Brothers is basically a field filler that just happens to have a history. It's a shame. FWIW, the classic 21 car paint scheme has been one of my favorites since back when David Pearson was driving it.

And you're just as wrong today as you were in January.

I don't know, I'd say Roger Craig and Keena Turner were pretty good too. It wasn't like it was Montana, Lott, and a bunch of hacks. There were a lot of solid players on that team. In any case, the Niners had no trouble with the Dolphins. Teams play who is on their schedule. You can't hold that against them. And Matt Cavanaugh ain't going 18-1 in the Big Ten, let alone the NFL. "Cowardly football?" What was Parcells supposed to do, try to win a shootout against the Bills with Jeff Hostetler, Ottis Anderson, and a bunch of guys named Stephen Baker? Played not to lose. Please. The Giants played to their strengths and won the game. Granted, they should have lost, but even if they had, they still kept it closer than it ever should have been by playing "cowardly football." Outside the the Niners and the Eastern Division teams? They were the teams that made the NFC top heavy during that period. In the 13 year AFC losing streak, the Niners won four Super Bowls, Cowboys won three, and the Giants and Washingtons won two each. That's 11 out of 13, but yeah, those teams weren't the reason the NFC was top heavy.

Agree 100%. If pitchers don't want batters hitting home runs, throw better pitches. The hitters are major league baseball players, do these pitchers actually believe that knocking them down or hitting them intimidates them in any way? I've thought fights in hockey are stupid from the first time I saw one. If there's a strategy to them, I've never figured out what it is.

I think you nailed it. The AFC Super Bowl losing streak ran from the 1984 season thru the 1996 season. How much of it was due to facing a couple dynasties, a couple almost dynasties, and a defense for the ages vs. how much of it was due to the AFC simply not being good enough to win? Let's take a look. 1984 - Montana and the Niners are in the middle of their run and easily pick up Super Bowl win #2 against Dan Marino, Duper, Clayton, and a bunch of nobodies on the Dolphins. The 80's Dolphins were never much more than Marino and hope for the best with the rest. 1985 - The '85 Bears. For my money that Bears defense was the greatest defense of all time. No one was beating them that season. Especially not the '85 Patriots. When asked if he thought the Pats could beat the Bears, NBC analyst, Bob Trumpy said "I'm not sure they can score a point." 1986 - Parcells, LT and a great Giants defense make quick work of Elway and the Broncos. I think people remember those 80's Broncos teams as better than they actually were. It was basically Elway, a decent defense, and not much else. And Elway spent most of every game waiting for Dan Reeves to turn him loose. I think my Browns would have been a tougher match up for the Giants that year, but we all know how that turned out. 1987 - Gibbs, Doug Williams, and the Washingtons totally expose Denver's secondary and hang 35 of them in one quarter. Hard to believe now, but Denver was up 10-0 in that game. 1988 - Montana and the Niners rip the heart out of Cincinnati while making jokes about John Candy. Credit to the Bengals, they somehow managed to hang around against a team that was way better than they were. 1989 - The Niners are at their pinnacle. Montana shows the world how sick he is of being of being compared to John Elway and hangs 55 on the Broncos. The Broncos are now officially the new Vikings. 1990 - Ottis Anderson signs a deal with the devil and Parcells and the Giants execute the perfect game plan to stop the Bills. The Bills should have won this one. They were by far and away the best team the AFC had sent to the Super Bowl since the '83 Raiders. 1991 - Thurman Thomas loses his helmet and Gibbs and the Washingtons do what they do. Maybe Washington was just the better team that year, but I think the Bills showed up a little tight and never loosened up. 1992 - It's the Cowboys turn to do the dynasty thing for a while. The Bills never stood a chance. Losing the last two Super Bowls was in their heads big time at this point. 1993 - See 1992 except the Bills are now in complete "we're gonna this up no matter what" mode. 1994 - The Niners and their other HOF QB come back for an encore and destroy a Chargers team that had no business being there. 1995 - The Cowboys are coming down the other side of the hill, but they still had more than enough to catch the passes Neil O'Donnell threw right to them and beat the Steelers. 1996 - The Niners and Cowboys have slowed enough for the Packers to finally break through and beat Parcells and the Pats, but there was light at the end of the tunnel for the AFC. Long story short, of the 13 straight losses, I'd argue that the Bills were the only AFC team that came close to having the talent to beat any of the NFC Super Bowl teams during that run. They should have gotten the first one, they were certainly good enough to win the second one, but that's about it. Every other AFC team in that stretch had huge holes somewhere. If memory serves, Buffalo was the only AFC team to be favored during the streak. I don't remember the NFC being loaded top to bottom over those years, but the top teams were just that much better than everyone else in the league and it wasn't particularly close.

Mark Rypien was the QB for the Washingtons in that Super Bowl, but your point remains.

Gotta go where the money is.

Shrodinger's NFL franchise. It shouldn't apply to any team because it's a really stupid argument.

And just like that, the nice little streak of good uniform reveals is over. It was fun while it lasted.

Thanks for that; I didn't know. I get it, but it's just so far removed from what the team is known for looking like. It's really not...if you're in your 90s. I really like the uniform, but outside of this community, I seriously doubt many people know it's based on an actual throwback.

And we're 3 for 3. These look great. Ditch the awful current look and go with this full time, Seattle.

Outstanding. Make these full time. We're 2 for 2 today. Your move, Seattle.

The Majestic XII has 27 members.

When I first heard the Browns were possibly adding a white helmet, I didn't think I'd like it and I was right. I don't like it, I love it. Outstanding.

Things do go sideways once in a while around here. Your effort is most appreciated. I'll put on my mod hat and make it official and I'll start by reprimanding myself. Let's get back on topic, folks. infrared41, either move on or take it to PM. Fair?

You sure? This is the second time you've brought it up and you seem to have strong feelings on the matter. Anyway, I guess I'll have to learn to live with your disappointment. Seriously though, you are entitled to your opinion, but this place ain't exactly the Harvard Debate Club. Surely you've noticed that in all your years here.

You'll get past it. For the record, if you read the original post you'll see that I was quoting what he said. That aside, I do have a tendency to use R-rated language. It's all part of my delightful personality.

"Hit a nerve." Please. Don't flatter yourself. And I didn't defend anything. I said I don't fawn over anything in sports. Other people might and that's really weird too, but I don't. I can only speak for myself on that matter. Quote me "admitting I'm mad" about any part of this conversation and I'll concede this entire argument. I'm not mad at all. Haven't been this entire time. You can't come up with a defense for your weird obsession with watching kids play sports so you're trying to deflect by making things up like me being angry. My opinion is both formulated and crystal clear on this. Again, you have no counterargument so you're left with nothing but making things up. No, most kids do not turn 18 when school starts or before school starts. Sure, some do, but it's more the exception than the rule. For example, I turned 18 in April of my senior year. Which part of "16 is what I figured the median age on a high school football team would be" is tripping you up? As far as being obsessed goes, I'm not the one tenaciously defending getting off on watching kids play football. That would be you. Again, I'm not mad about anything. I'm glad they had to change the rules. Those kids were treated horribly by their coaches. I'd imagine no longer being allowed to watch 14 year olds on TV must be tough for a guy like you, but it's for the best. All that being said, I think it's a good idea to end this conversation before I actually do get angry and decide to stop playing nice with you.