IceCap
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I think I was sick on the day in high school we went over "famous airport carpets." In retrospect the past five pages make sense
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That's hilarious.
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Sure let's make a jersey commemorating an anti-semitic race riot. That'll do wonders for the league image
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Too bad I donno man. I don't think people should be reliant on one-off gimmick basketball uniforms to learn something. Pay attention in school. Read a book. If this season's taught us anything it's that relying on the NBA for anything other than top flight basketball's a fool's errand. You definitely shouldn't be relying on uniforms to teach you something.
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You joke but the Ottawa Redblacks made flannel work. But ideally... what do I want from Portland? Eh... nothing really from them specifically. I just think City Edition uniforms suck because more times than not they degrade the established identity of the teams involved. Detroit vs New Orleans shouldn't look like Dallas vs Utah at first glance.
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The two are interconnected On the face of it, the uniform in question clashes with the Blazers' established identity and references really annoying trends in the design world. It's also bottom of the barrel scraping to reference airport carpet.
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Every rule has exceptions. The exceptions don't invalidate the rule.
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As @LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said... yeah someone did. Now here's the thing pepis. I've never once used my mod authority in an argument here, because I think doing so is in EXTREMELY poor taste. But stoop to something like this again? And I will. This isn't that ing deep my guy. I don't like the carpet jerseys. You do. If that makes me pathetic? Well.. I've been called worse by better people then you I guess. But we probably shouldn't get into that.
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Yeah the whole thing's dumb. Patiently? Ha! Nah man. I legitimately don't think that's how this went down.
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That's fine! If that's how the business model is ok. But don't tell me "these are just for the locals" if they're selling them to people across the country.
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This is just an agree to disagree situation because I hear "relevance to the local community" in conjuncture with "airport carpet" and I just think it's odd. If Portland wants to do it good for them but... what do you want me to do? Lie about my feelings about it? I never really bought that because these aren't limited to local markets. They're trying to sell every one of these all over. The hyper locality is a gimmick to make people think they're cleaver. To me the entire promotion is one part of a bigger problem of NBA alternates getting out of control and team brands being compromised further and further.
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I think it's pretty bottom of the barrel to base a uniform off of carpeting, and on top of that I think it clashes with the team's established identity. Anything else you're reading as "hostility" is because I'm getting tired of people acting like I should have known about carpet in an airport I've never been to all along.
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Oh please I'm saying it sucks that it's raining and your attempts to rationalize why it's not so bad are lacking. There are two levels here. One- I think making carpet "a thing" is strange, and not in a quirky way. In a "that's just weird" way. Two- I think using it as a basis for a jersey is dumb. Trying to carpetsplain to me just makes me think you're desperate to prove something. What? I donno, to be honest. But I never thought I'd be in a situation where someone was trying so hard to convince me I should have known about carpet in an airport I've never been to. I'm sorry my boring as suburban Ontario upbringing didn't introduce me to this carpet's majesty. How sheltered and uncultured my youth was.
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I think that the explosion of uniform media, for lack of a better term, has tricked people into thinking everything needs to mean something. Why do the Dodgers wear red numbers on the front of their jerseys when everything else is blue? 'cause it looks good, and someone realized that back in the day and made it happen. But if it came out these days? There would be a paragraph about how it represents "the passion of Los Angeles" or "the SoCal sunset" or "the red brick of the Bradbury building." It's all so ridiculous. Whatever happened to "well we thought this would look good so we did that"? A side effect of this is that people think criticism needs to be deep. Certain NHL fans were insistent on that. "You don't like this jersey? BUT YOU LIKE THIS OTHER THING THAT'S LIKE IT! Explain!" And it's like... "no man, I just don't like this." And that's where I'm at here. The colour scheme of the PDX jersey is nice, and fitting for Portland... but unfortunately we have ~50 years of Blazers basketball in red, black, and white that make teal and forest green not particularly appropriate. So on a base level? I just don't like it. Which is where the "dumb" stuff comes from. It's me just not overthinking any of this. I hear "the airport carpet is a big deal" and my first response is "what the heck?" It strikes me as... well... dumb. I'm sorry. I don't mean to insult you or your city or your team even... but that's my honest reaction. I've never heard of the idea of making carpet a local "landmark," much less this specific case, and it's just very, very odd to me. And to then take that and tie it into a uniform that, frankly, clashes with the team's established identity? It's just more reasons I dislike it. I'm sorry my critique wasn't more nuanced for your tastes, and I'm truly, legitimately sorry if anything I've said made you think I had anything against you personally, your hometown, or your team. I don't. At all. It's just my opinion on uniforms. That's all.
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I bet the airport carpet jerseys were a Jewish plot! We should get Kyrie on the line
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And I'll say I think you're being incredibly thin skinned and petulant for assuming my unfamiliarity with your hometown's airport carpet, or some niche nickname, means I have something against you, your team, or Portland.
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Like I've never been to St. Louis, but I know of the arch. I've never been to Philly but I know of the Liberty Bell. I knew about the Empire State Building and Rockefeller Plaza and the Golden Gate Bridge long before I ever made it to NYC or San Francisco. The idea of this carpet at Portland's airport being "special" or "a landmark" like... look. I don't know what everyone's interests are, and if you knew about this carpet before people started talking about it as a basis for a NBA jersey, good for you. But insisting on its importance and chastising someone for "not knowing about it" seems like a REAL stretch. No. I didn't pick up the Carpets of North American Airports coffee table book. My bad I guess.
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Jesus that's ugly
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I'm Jewish my guy. I've dealt with passive aggressiveness on levels you can't even fathom. Either shut it or put up. I guess my point is that Wikipedia shouldn't be held up as some universal standard of notoriety or significance.
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It's less on-ice performance and more... relevant in the public eye? Like, it's hockey. In the United States. In LOS ANGELES. The battle for notoriety is already uphill. I remember the year the Kings won their first Cup. Local TV used the Sacramento Kings logo. So ok. When were the Kings relevant? When did people in LA, and elsewhere, think about them? When were they the hot story? The Gretzky run and the Cup wins are probably the high water marks of the LA Kings' relevancy in the mind of American sports fans. And they were black, white, and silver for all of that. There's something to the idea that you should try to capture that look.
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"You disagree with me you must be mad." You're better then that, come on. No, I just think basing a uniform off of carpet at an airport is dumb Like... that's the beginning and end of it. Everything else is "how dare you not appreciate this piece of local culture!" like me not liking a basketball jersey means I must hate their city or something. Like...I love Toronto. I've been through Toronto Pearson more times then I care to remember. I cannot tell you what the carpeting is like. I think it's maybe grey? Or blue? I donno. I'm not paying attention. 'cause it's carpet
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I think you should maybe check yourself, and stop assuming your knowledge is the same as everyone else. 'cause really. Airport carpet? Yeah me where have I been not knowing about G-ddman airport carpet.
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Yeah I get this. Honestly? I think they need to go to the Gretzky look and just make some tweaks . Use the current crown on the chevron. Get rid of the chrome helmets. Make that look THE King's look. The Cup look is close enough that you can get some cred from it, and you can break out the occasional purple and gold look for a throwback game. I'm not doubting that the current identity is a mess... I just think there are pieces there to build on.
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Nope, I just find "yOu HaVe To Be FrOm HeRe To UnDeRsTaNd" REALLY dumb and pretentious in the worst way. Look. I'm proud of my home town too. But I don't have my head so far up my own that I'm going to tell you it's a magical special place where even the carpet has special significance to those of us who grew up there. Where I grew up, where I'm from, is pretty much like a lot of very similar places. Portland, as nice as it is, isn't some magically unique place either. The insistence that we need to squeeze meaning out of these increasingly niche references just reinforces the worst aspects of the "WHERE I'M FROM IS SPECIAL" attitude that births just the worst platitudes in sports. I've never been to Portland. I've never, as far as I know, never met anyone from Portland. One of my best friends just moved there and she seems happy, so I'm sure it's a nice place. But insisting that carpet of all things is special is just dumb. Sorry. To me it's all dumb. "Well this dumb thing is less dumb then the other dumb things" isn't a glowing endorsement. Personally? I could defend the Magic and Lakers' unis but... why should I? No they're not based on carpet but they're still dumb. My subjective ranking of dumb things doesn't make any of them not dumb. So yeah. I'm with you at "the city stuff shouldn't exist." Difference is I'm not keen on following that with "but..." Sorry. "lol no your team sucks" is basic, sad internet discourse. You think insulting the Raptors' dumb city is going to get me pissed off? Please. I've hated the Drake stuff since day one. When these uniforms start getting limited to team stores in the arena and no where else then I'll concede these are for local fans. I've never heard of this "famous carpet" until these unis dropped. Come on man. That's the thing. It's carpet. It would have rightfully been laughed at before the uni world lost its mind. There are more absurd things to base a uniform off of than carpet, but it's a sort list. I really don't give a crap about how many reTweets something got. Share 'em while the platform still exists I guess.
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I find it dumb. And no I'm not a market expect. I just find the attitude of "you need to be from here to understand!" cringey and now Nike's weaponized that to make ugly basketball jerseys seem appealing.
