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The AFC has been in the left endzone for each of the last 4 Super Bowls, starting with Super Bowl LI, so I think they will continue the trend for this year, but really, who knows. There has been no endzone consistency since before Super Bowl XLV. I agree, this will most likely be the Buccaneers endzone. I'll probably do a few different concepts, spanning different eras of the Super Bowl fields between this week and next.

I went ahead and altered the team boxes, to reflect what the NFL has been doing in the playoffs. The white line on the team box starts just inside the 23 year lines, and extends back to the 30 yard lines. The yellow outline remains 6 feet back from the white line. These field are ordered by what I'd expect to see, in most likely to least likely. Of course, I won't be surprised if we see something different or out of the ordinary this year, given the year it has been. I could see the possibility that the team boxes aren't even painted, but I still think they will paint them. I'm thinking yellow endzone for the Chiefs, as they did last year. I saw a lot of "run it back" in Kansas City yesterday, so I think they'll repeat the yellow endzone. Given they are playing a team with a red endzone, I think it makes it more likely. For the Buccaneers, the wordmark is the same as on their home field. When they've painted their endzone red, they've kept the main color of the font black, instead of pewter, so I expect the same here (they are at their home stadium after all, so I expect them to stay consistent). Next, Chiefs with a red endzone. Due to the difference in shades of red, I can't see the NFL using just one red for both teams. In the past, if shades of blue were notably different, they'd paint both shades. I tried seeing what a Chiefs wordmark in white would look like, and it makes their endzone so plain, just red and white, that I really can't see them doing a red endzone and a white wordmark. Now this would be a fun field. Not likely that we see it, but who knows. Maybe the Buccaneers would go pewter to contrast the Chiefs red? Unlikely, but it would look great. And last, this is just the other possibility, but it really doesn't seem possible that two teams that have red as their main color, would go without a red endzone.

Well, it's impressive, and that crazy amount of work shows. Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. On most stadiums, you can still see the old lines faded out. If they keep this for the Super Bowl (I think they will), I'm hoping they still paint the team box. Well, we've got our teams set, so I'll get working on some field ideas tomorrow. Last year, they started painting the field pretty early on, so it's that time of year to start looking for sneak peeks. Here is the concept for the field I had done before this weekend, but I could easily see it being different. If the Chiefs go with a red endzone, I'd like to see if they use a different shade of red for both endzone. They should , but who knows with the NFL. It'll also be interesting to see if any social messages get painted on the sidelines, and at the back of the endzones. I have a strong feeling they will this year.

Something to keep an eye on, that I’ve noticed throughout the playoffs, but the team boxes seemed to have been extended 10 yards in either side. So now instead of a normal teambox extending from the 33 yard lines, they now seem to go from either 23 yard line. It’ll be interesting to see if that will also be true for the Super Bowl, and how they will paint the teambox.

If I could find a way to do it legally, I for sure would sell them, as a way to raise money to fund the Gridiron Uniforms Database. I'd definitely have to print a couple for myself first, to get them to come out right. Plus, I think I need to go back and edit all of the Super Bowl fields from 13 through 54, and update the directional arrows to be the appropriate size. That will be an undertaking in it's own.

Here are the other two retro-style field combos:

Just hopefully for a yellow wordmark I guess. It could very well be white on a red background, it's just hard for me to see plain white on the red background, if yellow is the Chiefs second major color. I see it more likely that they'd go with the yellow endzone again though. If they do go with red, I think it'll be the first time a team had differen't colored endzones in consecutive Super Bowls (I think). There were a couple teams that had different endzone colors two out of three years: Dolphins in XVII and XIX, Rams in XXXIV and XXXVI (correct me if I'm forgetting any). For the Dolphins, it was interesting, because they did change their logos, but the Rams of course did an entire team design makeover between 1999 and 2001. Perhaps, if I have the time. I will for sure if we see a Packers Bills, or Chiefs Buccaneers Super Bowl, along with a bunch of other concepts for the actual Super Bowl matchup.

I've certainly thought about adding final scores. The challenge is in finding a consistent place to put them, since the text, and team logos are different across all the games. Looks like the best place I can fit scores is left and right of the date, but, they would have to be the same font size as the date, even if there's more space above, because some graphics will not have that space. If I want to put the scores centered under the logos, then I may have to move some logos up, to make room. In some cases, I can't move the logos up, because there is no room, or some logos are just too tall. Scores may just have to be inconsistent between graphics, and done on a case by case basis. For me, if I did print all the Steelers winning Super Bowl's, I'd like the score and logo placement to be consistent, at least for those fields. So, who knows. It really only matters if I ever decide to make prints. Here's some examples: The first image for each field has the scores located directly under the 15 yard lines, same height as the date text. The second image for each field has the scores centered under the logos, best I could. Some logos need to shift up in order to fit the score. I also tried to keep the height of the scores form the bottom of the graphic the same for the same game, even if I couldn't match the height of the date text.

I've been working on a little side project with the Super Bowl fields since March, that I just started to pick back up on. But I wanted to create some sort of printable field graphics, that I would eventually hang in my home office (just the Steelers fields for Super Bowls they had won). So far I think they've turned out nicely, but I may make a few tweeks here and there. I'll take suggestions as well on how to improve on these. Note, these aren't full size (because full size is enormous, and won't upload to imgur). Consistency on the logo sized has been the greatest challenge. Plus, on Super Bowls with long numerals, (like XXXVIII) that decreases the space I have to place the logos.

I appreciate it. A lot of work has gone into the GSL so far, from the owners, and myself (much coding work had to be done, that's for sure). As far as Super Bowl logos go, really, @logoroy's work has been exceptional over the years. His Super Bowl XLIX concept is actually what got me to join the forums here initially, and butterfly effect, I wouldn't have joined the Gridiron Uniforms Database if I didn't start with field concepts here, and without the GUD, there'd be no GSL. But @logoroy's concepts for having good Super Bowl logos is why I asked him to design the Gridiron Bowl logos. If you haven't seen his past concepts, they are definitely worth taking a look at.

A couple of new league logos for the 2021 season. First, the 2021 Gridiron Bowl (formally Gridiron Bowl I). This logo was created for the league by @logoroy And the week before the Gridiron Bowl, will be the GSL All-Star game, also in New Orleans. This logo, I created, following the same color scheme as the Gridiron Bowl log (which is intended for each All-Star game logo moving forward). Logo on color:

Had to do some retro style fields for fun:

There is also a very real possibility, as I'm realizing how the Bills officially display their wordmark, that their endzone would look like this: Just a plain white wordamark on a blue background. Knowing the NFL, this seems more likely.

Well, on a retro field, the outline for the 'G' would be a helmet, which would of course be the best option.

These are the possible fields I think we could see for Super Bowl LV. I included a red endzone for the Chiefs as well as yellow. As @Wackyriderfan14stated, there is a possibility of a red endzone for the Chiefs (if you rememeber the 2019 playoffs, the Chiefs used yellow endzones at home that year). The Chiefs are the only team that I can see with two different possible endzone colors, of the teams left. Chiefs at Packers Chiefs at Packers B Bills at Packers Chiefs at Buccaneers Chiefs at Buccaneers B Bills at Buccaneers

Wow, I love the stadium outlines on these; best I've seen it done. Really increases the realism.

Couldn't help myself from making some concepts. I have each team in one concept, and just made these based on seeding. I put the AFC in the left endzone, as that's where the AFC has been since Super Bowl LI.

Divisional week is approaching. It's time for some endzones! Of the remaining 8 teams, this is what I believe we'd see for their endzones, if they made the Super Bowl, based on the recent Super Bowl field trends. AFC Cleveland Browns Helmet and wordmark size are the same as at their home stadium Kansas City Chiefs Same endzone as Super Bowl LIV Baltimore Ravens Same logo and wordmark size as was used in Baltimore from 2003 to 2015 (wordmark size is still the same today). Buffalo Bills Wordmark size the same as at Bills Stadium, and same color pattern for a blue endzone. NFC Los Angeles Rams Same as their home endzone (well, the bad home endzone, but this is the Rams logo and wordmark). Green Bay Packers Wordmark size the same as in Super Bowl XLV, but a larger logo than used in that game, to fill up the empty space of an endzone devoid of a conference logo. Tampa Bay Buccaneers With the game being in Tampa, I'm sure the wordmark will be the same size as used in Buccaneers home games. New Orleans Saints Logo and wordmark the same size and distance from each other, as in Super Bowl XLIV. Alright, so these are my predictions. I'm hoping we see better overall endzone designs than we have seen since Super Bowl 50. Return of helmets, or conference logo. Something. I think the best thing about the remaining teams, is the variety in the endzone colors. We've seen so much navy in the past several years, with the Patriots, so good to see no navy this year, and hopefully no royal blue on royal blue super bowl.

The 2021 season is approaching, and with the number of teams, I will be splitting the league into two conferences, Eastern and Western. I've also created playoff logos as well.

I've definitely thought about it, but I for sure do not have the time. It would be a good project though. Also, I noticed all the field images in this thread now no longer work. I think the boards no longer support images with an HTTP link, only HTTPS. So that's unfortunate, since all the images I posted are hosted on the Gridiron Fields Database, and we don't haven't had the money to pay for an SSL certificate for HTTPS. I'm not sure what I'll do about fixing all the broken links in here, but that's going to be a time consuming task. On to Super Bowl field topics, we've got playoffs this weekend! So, almost time for some field concepts. I'll probably wait until after the wild card round before putting some matchups together. In the meantime, here is the template I have for the field at the moment: I'd post the full sized image, but it's much too large.

2020 Week 17 - 49ers Frankenfield in Phoenix It doesn't get more Frankenfield than this. With a short turn around between games, I'm not sure that there was much more that could have been done for this field.

Yeah, didn't look pretty, but it was interesting. Should be a fun field to put together.

Well, I don't use the 2012 stats for anything GSL related. Team strengths are random. You may notice that strengths range from 1 to 6, so that's as simple as rolling a die to get each offensive and defensive strength. With the GSL, for parity, I intend to give each team completely new strengths at the beginning of each year, instead of basing strengths off the previous season, which would be an easy thing to do. Changes I've though about, would be having variable team strengths throughout the year. For instance, before each week, there could be a 5% chance that a teams offensive or defensive strength could change. This could reflect injuries on a team, or other teams figuring out an offensive game plan, for a lowering ranking, or, on the flip side, the offense or defense could just start clicking, or trades could be beneficial, or rookies start making an impact. Things like that. I would like to find a way to incorporate this somehow, because it is more realistic. As a Steelers fan, I've seen the Steelers defense decimated by injuries (using safeties as inside linebackers), and an offense that everyone has figured out. A better simulation would have to account for things like that.

Since this is a concepts forum, I'll throw an updated concept out here for the Washington Stars. The Stars are not currently in line to join the GSL for the 2021 season, but, because all of my scheduling formulas are based on a league with an even number of teams, if the GSL ends up with an odd number of teams by the cutoff date, the Stars will be added to the league to even things out, with no owner. Kind of related to the simulation topic, the Stars were a team I carried over from a league I used to simulate on paper, using a deck of cards to simulate the games, with a certain two card combination being equivalent to a certain amount of yardage. For that league, I simulated 146 full seasons, with most games being simulated using a single die, and I just kept team records. For the playoffs, I would simulate games using the card method, and simulate full games that way. That all started in 5th grade when I got one of those football field rugs for Christmas, and I would draw out the team endzones, and championship logos to tape onto the rug for championship games.

For now, just a very simple "dice" roll, based on team strengths. I thought about using an in-depth simulation program I wrote in college, in which teams would run the statistically best play in certain game situations, but this program didn't account for different team strengths, just used statistics from all games during the 2012 NFL season. The actual simulation I'm using now (which I expect will evolve and be improved upon from year to year) is as follows (ignore formatting, this is a copy/paste from the GSL forum) I like my simulations to be able to be in real life, if technology fails us, so you may notice that all simulation here can be done with a single 6 sided die, and simple math.Before the season starts, each team gets randomly assigned an offensive, and defensive rank, which varies between values of 1 and 6. These values will not be made public during for official GSL seasons, but for demonstration purposes, these are the current team rankings for the 2020 season: Team Name Offensive Strength Defensive Strength Las Vegas Outlaws 3 6 Los Angeles Express 1 3 Louisiana Royals 2 6 San Diego Breakers 5 1 St. Louis Brewers 4 1 Washington Stars 2 4 These values won't change throughout a single season, but would be expected to change from year to year (this is outlined below).The above values are then used to simulate a game. The easiest way to explain the simulation, is through an example, so I will use the Las Vegas Outlaws at San Diego Breakers as an example game.The rankings for each team are as follows: Team Name Offensive Strength Defensive Strength Las Vegas Outlaws 3 6 San Diego Breakers 5 1 The first thing to do, is to calculate the away score. For this, I need a simulated "dice count". By dice count, I mean, how many "dice" (or random values, 1-6) the team can "roll" and sum up to get their score.Each team starts with 10 "dice", but this value changes, depending on team rankings. The start amount is 10, but 1 die gets added per offensive rank, and 1 die gets subtracted for the opposing teams defensive rank.For the example, the Outlaws have an offensive rank of 3, and the Breakers have a defensive rank of 1. The number of dice the Outlaws would get can then be calculated as:10 + 3 - 1 = 12 "dice" to rollThe score for the Outlaws can then be calculated, by simulating a roll of each of these "dice", and then summing each roll.My example roll comes out to a sum of 40. This is not a final score. It must be adjusted, so that it is possible for a team to roll a 0 (for a score of 0).To do this, I subtract the total number of dice from the roll total, which in this case is 12. So the score is adjusted down as: 40 - 12 = 28. This score is still not a final away score; there is further adjustment to get to later.Doing the same process for the Breakers, we note that the Breakers have an offensive rank of 5, and the Outlaws have a defensive rank of 6. The number of dice the Breakers would roll is then calculated as:10 + 5 - 6 = 9 "dice" to rollThe simulated roll comes out to 35. Again, we must subtract the number of dice rolled, so this gets us an adjusted score of 35 - 9 = 24.There is one more score adjustment for the home team, and that is home field advantage. Experts in betting typically move the line on average, with all else equal, 3 points in favor of the home team. So I add 3 points to the home teams adjusted score, to factor in a home field advantage. So the breakers adjusted score comes out to:24 + 3 = 27So now we have a score of:Outlaws - 28Breakers - 27The Outlaws have officially won this game at this point, but I also factor in another final score adjustment, based on the total offense, and total defense ranks of both teams in this game. I do this adjustment, because, say both teams have good offenses, and bad defenses. We'd expect a higher score for the game on both sides. On the flip side, if both teams had good defenses, and bad offenses, then we'd expect a lower scoring game overall. So I calculate total offense minus total defense, and use this as a point adjustment for both teams, in the following manor:Total offense = LV(off) + SD(off) = 3 + 5 = 8Total defense = LV(def) + SD(def) = 6 + 1 = 7Score adjustment = Tot(off) - Tot(def) = 8 - 7 = 1I add this number, 1, to each teams score, as a way to adjust for the fact that, in total, in this game, offenses are better than defenses, giving me a final score of:Outlaws - 29Breakers - 28In this game, the change wasn't too dramatic, but you can imagine, the change would be larger for a game between San Diego and St. Louis (which would be +7).There is one final score adjustment I do, to remove improbable, scores.We would not expect to see a team ever score 1, or 4 points, and a few other "uncommon" scores, so if a team scores, say, 4 points, I change their score down to 3 points as a final score, UNLESS, this changes this outcome of the game. So if a game ended 4 to 3, I would not want to change the score to 3 to 3, but instead, I would change the score to 6 to 3.One other instance we may run into, is overtime. In overtime, each team gets a single dice roll. The higher roll wins. The difference between the rolls determines the amount of points the winning team would get in overtime. A difference of 1 through 4 would give the winning team +3 points, or a field goal to win in overtime. If the difference is 5, then the winning team gets +6 points, or a touchdown to win in overtime. If both teams get the same roll, then overtime continues. If both teams tie on a roll of 5+, then each team gets +3 points (both teams scores a field goal first possession), otherwise, no points. We roll again, and if different, points are awarded to the winner as previously defined. Otherwise, if both teams are still tied, then the game ends in a tie. In the playoffs, we would keep going until both teams are not tied, and we have a winner.And that is the full simulation. If anyone is interested, I have source code in PHP.This is the simulation method that will be used for the 2021 GSL season. Simulations happen automatically 3 hours after the posted game times, and the scores are posted immediately after simulation. So there is nothing I can do to manually simulate games, or alter game scores. And, non-simulation related, I also have some scheduling formulas that I've been working on, for 18 game seasons, with 16, 18, 20, 22, or 24 team leagues: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V-jVQ8iMFSIRGfevjr_7COZMRYTY52JxSTYS0EZuQSg/edit?usp=sharing