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  1. I'm not saying that Seattle's run as a home to major-pro, minor-pro, and major junior hockey entitles the city to an NHL franchise, but could we please retire the meme that holds that the city lacks in "hockey tradition".

    I'm not sure that has a whole lot to do with it. At least not on these boards.

    Seattle already has strong fanbases in three sports (even if the baseball one has taken a beating lately). The newest (and thus customarily weakest) is as crazy-devout as any in the country.

    These are all important when you consider corporate support, which budgets its dollars annually. Teams in the same market aren't pals, they're competitors for finite resources. If you're Major Company A, and looking to spread your dollars around, you're probably already invested in the Mariners and Seahawks. Got to be, that's what you do. You've seen the ludicrous rise of the Sounders and have gotten in on that ride, and you're tossing a few bucks out Husky way. Now there's a new hand out, one that isn't coming from a very strong place.

    The NHL is planning to enter a fairly crowded marketplace already. That is, I think, the real point. To the extent the city's hockey history has any bearing at all it's that we can't say there's already a strong culture there. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't - how do the Thunderbirds do? - but the odds start to look long when you add that to all the other factors.

    They don't have a great arena. They don't have an untapped market in terms of sports franchises. They don't have a grateful municipality eager for the validation they would bring. They don't seem to have any special enthusiasm waiting for them in the marketplace. This is what the Coyotes will be facing.

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  2. What's baffling is that a city whose first sports passion is hockey and has a ready arena with a brand-spanking new one to come (Quebec) is being put behind a North American city where football, baseball, and soccer come before hockey, while an arena in said city (Seattle) isn't such a sure thing.

    I never used to believe that Bettman had an illogical anti-Canada bias, but it's becoming harder and harder to avoid that conclusion.

    The NHL will, at best, start as the fourth most popular sport in Seattle. They love the Mariners, Seahawks and Sounders, and I don't see how the new NHL team is going to magically leapfrog any of those.

    Not to mention that the NBA might still outrank hockey in fan interest, so long as this is taken as a sign that a new Sonics might be forthcoming.

  3. I know that the NHL is used to being a secondary sport in every American market they're in, but this is the first I can think of where they're going to run well behind soccer.

    They'd have been better off with an AHL club.

    Was this because of the NHL?

    According to Elliotte Friedman, the Vancouver Canucks, who announced on Friday that their AHL team was moving to Utica, N.Y., originally had planned to put it in Seattle in KeyArena. Turns out, they were told "it was not available for hockey," reported Friedman.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/phoenix-coyotes-moving-seattle-roenick-reportedly-part-plan-143114434.html

  4. I don't even think its about the language.

    I think it's one-half bias towards Sun Belt cities as the future population centers (and away from the "dead end" northern past), and one-half stubborn inability to admit a mistake.

    Face it, when the Coyotes move all the headlines will be about what a failure the market is. I really don't think his ego can take it, and he's willing to dump plenty of other people's money down the train to avoid the bloody obvious.

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