Dallas Cowboys helmet star

[wdm1219inpenna]

In watching, and re-watching so many of my DVDs showcasing the first 30 Super Bowl seasons & Super Bowl highlights, one of the most treasured gifts from my wife who I treasure above all else, looking back on Super Bowl XII and XIII highlights, I cannot help but notice the star on Staubach's helmet and other Cowboy players' helmets looks bigger there than they do now. Did they once have a bigger star or am I just imagining this?

[hormone]

While I wouldn't doubt that it has gotten smaller (like the Saints logo over the years) I think a lot of it might have to do with the shape of the helmet. Those old helmets were like a hard shell that was just over the head. As the decades go and technology improves, I think there is more surface area and logos look smaller. I also think that with this latest wave of designs, they are oddly shaped between the side of the head and the helmet stripe so they might shrink logos to fit the side of the head better.

Sorry that this wasn't a definitive answer, but just my .02.

[wdm1219inpenna]

Your answer was quite clear to me actually, and made a great deal of sense.

Here are 3 pictures, 1 is a black & white one of Staubach w/the bigger looking star, the other 2 are of Emmitt Smith & of the "Triplets" I believe some 15 or so years later, and the star looks a bit smaller on their helmets compared to Roger's helmet.

See what I mean by the sizing of the star?

[BlueSky]

Your answer was quite clear to me actually, and made a great deal of sense.

Here are 3 pictures, 1 is a black & white one of Staubach w/the bigger looking star, the other 2 are of Emmitt Smith & of the "Triplets" I believe some 15 or so years later, and the star looks a bit smaller on their helmets compared to Roger's helmet.

See what I mean by the sizing of the star?

Yes, and as mentioned, the Saints' FDL logo was ridiculously big back in the day, as seen below. Part of the reason why has to do with the emergence of TV coverage. Back when there was little TV exposure, unis were designed to be seen from the stands, not on a screen, so they made the logos as big as possible. The Vikes are another good example.

[Cujo]

Your answer was quite clear to me actually, and made a great deal of sense.

Here are 3 pictures, 1 is a black & white one of Staubach w/the bigger looking star, the other 2 are of Emmitt Smith & of the "Triplets" I believe some 15 or so years later, and the star looks a bit smaller on their helmets compared to Roger's helmet.

See what I mean by the sizing of the star?

Yes, and as mentioned, the Saints' FDL logo was ridiculously big back in the day, as seen below. Part of the reason why has to do with the emergence of TV coverage. Back when there was little TV exposure, unis were designed to be seen from the stands, not on a screen, so they made the logos as big as possible. The Vikes are another good example.

Nice attempt to hijack and turn this thread into another Saints thread, but if you hadn't noticed, the Saints' logo has actually changed since the 1960s.

[jc...]

Thats a photoshopped pic. LoL. If it isnt...

A.) Green Bay is blocking for the wrong guy

or

B.) The Packers and Vikings played a secret color on color game that we didnt know about.

[BlueSky]

Your answer was quite clear to me actually, and made a great deal of sense.

Here are 3 pictures, 1 is a black & white one of Staubach w/the bigger looking star, the other 2 are of Emmitt Smith & of the "Triplets" I believe some 15 or so years later, and the star looks a bit smaller on their helmets compared to Roger's helmet.

See what I mean by the sizing of the star?

Yes, and as mentioned, the Saints' FDL logo was ridiculously big back in the day, as seen below. Part of the reason why has to do with the emergence of TV coverage. Back when there was little TV exposure, unis were designed to be seen from the stands, not on a screen, so they made the logos as big as possible. The Vikes are another good example.

Nice attempt to hijack and turn this thread into another Saints thread, but if you hadn't noticed, the Saints' logo has actually changed since the 1960s.

What's your malfunction, man? ? I'm trying to hijack the thread by using the Saints as one example of what the original poster was talking about, because they happen to be a good example?

And if you want to call a size reduction and addition of outlines "changing" the logo, well, you go right ahead. I'd say the white helmet Jets logo vs. the green helmet Jets logo is a much better illustration of "changing" the logo but hey, whatever makes you happy.

Okay, if I fell for a PS pic in my haste to post, shame on me. Here's what I assume to be a legit pic of the Vikes' smaller horn:

Uh oh, somebody's trying to hijack this into a Vikings thread!

Wait, no, Dolphins...

What the heck, we haven't seen a Chiefs thread in a while.

[BlueSky]

And BTW...helmethut.com has many good examples of the original poster's point, including these two Cowboys helmets from guys who were teammates...

The one on the right is a little bigger at least. It's also an example of an interesting helmet type, the clear shell, where the paint, stripes, and logo are applied to the inside of the helmet shell.

[hawk36]

I wish teams would use the larger helmet logos again. They just look much better to me. I have a Seahawks helmet bank that looks amazing since the Seahawk completely fills the space. Looks much better than the size on the actual helmets.

[CJworks]

Yes, I'd say they do get smaller. It's a whole new generation now, and we've seen modifications of stripe styles on the cuffs of each new and up-and-coming jerseys. The same goes for the helmets with the new types and styles, the logos shrink to better suit the contour of the shell.

[BlueSky]

I wish teams would use the larger helmet logos again. They just look much better to me. I have a Seahawks helmet bank that looks amazing since the Seahawk completely fills the space. Looks much better than the size on the actual helmets.

I know we're talking helmets here but since it's also logo size and you brought up the Seahawks, I can't stand their stupid 'why bother'-sized sleeve logos:

Now that's a sleeve logo!

[Bouj]

Are you sure it's not the helmet logo changing dramatically but the helmet size changing instead? Modern helmets look bigger, so any difference is accentuated.

[wdm1219inpenna]

Are you sure it's not the helmet logo changing dramatically but the helmet size changing instead? Modern helmets look bigger, so any difference is accentuated.

This is indeed true. In watching Super Bowl V highlights, the horseshoe looks larger too than before. I prefer the smaller logos on the helmets and on the sleeves too.

Of course some teams increased their logo sizes while not having the helmets get bigger. I'm thinking the original Buccaneers had a smaller Bucco Brucie and they enlarged it after a few years, Pat the Patriot was smaller and made larger later on, and of course the Buffalo Bills enlarged their logo while they still wore the white helmets. That logo still seems to take up the entire helmet practically too!

[BlueSky]

Are you sure it's not the helmet logo changing dramatically but the helmet size changing instead? Modern helmets look bigger, so any difference is accentuated.

This is indeed true. In watching Super Bowl V highlights, the horseshoe looks larger too than before. I prefer the smaller logos on the helmets and on the sleeves too.

Of course some teams increased their logo sizes while not having the helmets get bigger. I'm thinking the original Buccaneers had a smaller Bucco Brucie and they enlarged it after a few years, Pat the Patriot was smaller and made larger later on, and of course the Buffalo Bills enlarged their logo while they still wore the white helmets. That logo still seems to take up the entire helmet practically too!

Boy was he!

[MarkAtnip]

Of course it used to be smaller as well. (1966 for instance)

One other possibility based on this photo. The "inner" part of the star remains the same, but the size of the outlines is what expanded in the 70's.