pmoehrin Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 No idea what the hold up was, but finally Ron Santo is in the Hall of Fame after receiving more then 90% of the vote from the Golden Era Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 No idea what the hold up wasThey didn't want him to enjoy it while he was alive. Open secret. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 No idea what the hold up was, but finally Ron Santo is in the Hall of Fame after receiving more then 90% of the vote from the Golden Era Committee.It probably had something to do with Santo not having a hall of fame career. That's my guess anyway. Sorry, I just don't see Santo as a hall of famer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 It's a damn shame this honor had to come posthumously (it shouldn't have come at all, but that's a different story). On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am so stoked that Santo finally got in! -- But at the same time, am pretty upset that the voters waited until after his passing to put him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Sorry, I just don't see Santo as a hall of famer.Statistically speaking he's a Hall of Fame player, and he amassed his numbers while crudely self-treating juvenile diabetes, which was about the only way you could treat it in his time. I think he's a hugely important figure for that. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am so stoked that Santo finally got in! -- But at the same time, am pretty upset that the voters waited until after his passing to put him in. For lack of a better term the writers F'd this one up big time.Only Brooks Robinson can match his numbers as a 3B over his career both offensively and defensively over Santo's 14 year career. Nobody else is even close, and there is no argument against Brooks Robinson for being in the HOF, so why did it take so long for Santo? And if the reasons were personal, shame on the Veterans Committee as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 1) "Too many '69 Cubs are in the Hall of Fame already and that team never won nothing anyways. In an unrelated story, I require an instruction manual to dress myself."2) He was a prick in his playing days.Sure, he pretty much repented for being such a prick by tirelessly raising millions of dollars for JDRF and forging a second career as One Of Baseball's Good Guys, but dearest god, you don't understand, he jumped in the air when the Cubs won games! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knnhrvy16 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Fantastic news. I do wish he were alive to see it, but I'm thrilled that he's in. Now if only the Hall could get Gil Hodges in, then all would be well in my world. The opinions I express are mine, and mine only. If I am to express them, it is not to say you or anyone else is wrong, and certainly not to say that I am right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Sorry, I just don't see Santo as a hall of famer.Statistically speaking he's a Hall of Fame player, and he amassed his numbers while crudely self-treating juvenile diabetes, which was about the only way you could treat it in his time. I think he's a hugely important figure for that.Only Brooks Robinson can match his numbers as a 3B over his career both offensively and defensively over Santo's 14 year career. Nobody else is even close, and there is no argument against Brooks Robinson for being in the HOF, so why did it take so long for Santo? And if the reasons were personal, shame on the Veterans Committee as well.My impression has always been that he wasn't HOF caliber but I could be wrong. I guess I should take another look at Santo's career. Let's also not forget that he played for a bad team. I'm off to Baseball-Reference.com. You guys have convinced me to reassess my position. (Don't tell anyone. We don't want people thinking that a civil debate can take place around here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 For Santo's career which is '60-'74 if I had to rank 3B I'd go as follows.1. Brooks Robinson2. Ron Santo3. Eddie Mathews4. Ken Boyer5. Sal Bando6. Clete Boyer7. Ken McMullen8. Dick Allen (only taking into account his 3B stats which is basically '64-'67 and '71)9. Tony Perez10. Craig NettlesHis career look okay, but he's one of those guys that doesen't become all that special until you start taking a look at the guys around the league that played his position. That's when your realize just how far ahead of everyone he really he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Good news. Now if they can finally get Hodges and Kaat in ... especially Kaat. I don't care if his record isn't as fascinating as Warren Spahn's, but the amount of Gold Gloves is outstanding. Let's try to compile some modern day pitchers that are defensive and try to be a part of the game in more than one way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Feels like a pity vote. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 There were numerous opportunities for a pity vote. This was a spite vote. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winghaz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'd love to see Tony Oliva get in. I'm not holding my breath, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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