RevNet Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Native Americans have been struggling for a voice in the decision-making process since the United States government started making treaties with the tribes. Their voice has been falling on deaf ears for centuries.Concerns over derogatory Native American imagery and athletic team logos and the defiant disregard of Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder to change his team name has been the norm for centuries.But one American sports franchise has not only heard the voice of Native Americans in the Inland Empire, but welcomed their perspective.The Spokane Indians baseball team, a Class A Northwest League team that’s affiliated with the Texas Rangers, collaborated with the Spokane Tribe of Indians in a partnership built on respect.In 2006, the baseball team’s front office and the tribe collaborated to come up with a team logo not only saying Spokane Indians in English, but developed a team logo printed in the Salish language, which was depicted on the sleeve of its uniforms.The Spokane Indians baseball team will take that collaboration one step further, making the logo in the Salish language the main logo on the front of its home uniforms for the 2014 season.http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/12/27/spokane-indians-take-historic-step-logo-salish-language-152874Team logo (in Salish language):Team logo (in English): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mojo Maniac Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 So are they saying that roundel will be on the front of the home uni in 2014? If so, terrible choice. A roundel has no place on a uniform except on the sleeve.Interesting move to bring the Salish language to the forefront like that though. I've been to a few Spokane Indians games, and all their imagery is pretty classy. They even have Otto the "Spokanosaurus" (at least last I checked) as their mascot rather than teetering on the brink of danger with a native-inspired mascot. From San Berdoo to Kalamazoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 THIS is what I like to see with NA imagery in sports... an opportunity to respectfully educate the public about indigenous peoples and their culture (instead of paying" tribute" with racial slurs and racist imagery). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Pretty bold move considering the majority of their fans dont speak the language, but i like it. Very well done logo too. Mojo i cant believe you dont like that logo WTF, man!? I could make my career out of doing only roundels GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE / MEDIUM / DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 THIS is what I like to see with NA imagery in sports... an opportunity to respectfully educate the public about indigenous peoples and their culture (instead of paying" tribute" with racial slurs and racist imagery).Indeed. Despite sharing a name this identity and the identity of the Cleveland Indians is like night and day. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I thought I read that this identity was designed by either Dan Simon (Studio Simon) or Todd Radom, but I can't find interweb confirmation anywhere.I had been wondering why a logo designed in 2006 was suddenly making news again.From what I've seen, the current home uniforms have "Spokane" in a script across the chest. My understanding of this article means the team will now have "Spoaqin" across the chest instead, and the Salish roundel on the sleeve. I don't know that the full Salish name will translate well to a jersey, but keeping it as a sleeve patch should reinforce the idea while retaining its aesthetic appeal. Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I thought I read that this identity was designed by either Dan Simon (Studio Simon) or Todd Radom, but I can't find interweb confirmation anywhere.It was actually designed by Plan B Branding, now known as Brandiose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Cardinals Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I thought I read that this identity was designed by either Dan Simon (Studio Simon) or Todd Radom, but I can't find interweb confirmation anywhere.It was actually designed by Plan B Branding, now known as Brandiose.http://www.brandiose.com/behind-the-scenes/spokane/10 #9 LSU vs. TCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 THIS is what I like to see with NA imagery in sports... an opportunity to respectfully educate the public about indigenous peoples and their culture (instead of paying" tribute" with racial slurs and racist imagery).I find it interesting that Native Americans don't find the Redskins offensive at all. For some reason the only people that do are white people who have no reason to care and people who would make money off of suing Dan Snyder. If you don't like the team don't buy stuff from them, but I have a feeling the people who wouldn't buy their stuff already don't. It seems like nobody cares about what other people do except a group of people that always like to start problems.what? google "oneida indian tribe"but we're not going to go down this road in this thread are we? GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE / MEDIUM / DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Roundels look great on sleeves. Less great on chests.THIS is what I like to see with NA imagery in sports... an opportunity to respectfully educate the public about indigenous peoples and their culture (instead of paying" tribute" with racial slurs and racist imagery).I find it interesting that Native Americans don't find the Redskins offensive at all. For some reason the only people that do are white people who have no reason to care and people who would make money off of suing Dan Snyder. If you don't like the team don't buy stuff from them, but I have a feeling the people who wouldn't buy their stuff already don't. It seems like nobody cares about what other people do except a group of people that always like to start problems. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 THIS is what I like to see with NA imagery in sports... an opportunity to respectfully educate the public about indigenous peoples and their culture (instead of paying" tribute" with racial slurs and racist imagery).Agreed. Nice tribute that is very respectful and has educational value too. I have to admit that's the first time I've heard or seen the Salish language. Very cool. Well done by the Spokane Indians. Hopefully Cleveland learns a thing or two from the Rangers Short A affiliate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Great idea. Well done. Kudos. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 THIS is what I like to see with NA imagery in sports... an opportunity to respectfully educate the public about indigenous peoples and their culture (instead of paying" tribute" with racial slurs and racist imagery).I find it interesting that Native Americans don't find the Redskins offensive at all. For some reason the only people that do are white people who have no reason to care and people who would make money off of suing Dan Snyder. If you don't like the team don't buy stuff from them, but I have a feeling the people who wouldn't buy their stuff already don't. It seems like nobody cares about what other people do except a group of people that always like to start problems.what? google "oneida indian tribe"but we're not going to go down this road in this thread are we?No, we're not. This thread is going to stay focused on the Spokane Indians' branding. Redskins-centric debate, as well as more general discussion of the topic of Native American-branding in sports, has been merged into the existing pertinent thread in the Sports In General forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Wish I knew how to read what it says in Salish. I hope they make some effort to explain that part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I presume they will. I'd expect a press release when unveiled, and then a page in the program/on the website with background.Most of the time, alt-language jerseys are made because the language is widely spoken in the area. This is a unique opportunity to educate. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNet Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 UPDATE from the Spokesman-Review:When the Spokane Indians baseball players take the field this summer, the team name will be blazoned across their chests: “Sp’q’n’i.”That’s the Spokane Salish language version of the name. On opening day, June 13, this Short Season Class A minor league baseball team will become the first-ever professional baseball team to use a Native American language in this way. The jersey is the fruit of an unusual collaboration between a team and a tribe. Unusual, because in several high-profile examples – the Washington Redskins and the Cleveland Indians, to name two – the issue of Indian-related team names and mascots has generated more controversy than collaboration. In Cleveland, the “Chief Wahoo” mascot has been derided as a demeaning cartoon; in Washington, D.C., the team name has been derided as just plain racist. In Spokane – or should we say Sp’q’n’i – both the tribe and its namesake team have worked hard in recent decades to establish the name Spokane Indians as a tribute, as opposed to just a mascot. In 2006, the tribe helped to create new circular team logo, with words written in the Salish language. This year, the tribe worked with the team in creating the new Sp’q’n’i jersey, and supplied the team with an accurate rendering of the word (which also includes a final symbol not found in the English alphabet).http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/mar/16/spokane-indians-baseball-players-uniforms-sport/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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