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15 hours ago, riccirulesall said:

anyone see the matte finish on zack kassian's alternate helmet? thought it was maybe because of a special helmet model but he wears the super prevalent bauer 4500. interesting to see, don't know if i've ever seen such a finish on a hockey helmet. [snipped pics for space]

Maybe it's one of the helmets he used with the Oilers that had to be painted over? There have been two, that I know of at least, instances this year where a player has used old gloves that were painted over/recoloured to match what the team was wearing and Teemu for years used the same JOFA helmets once they went out of business. So maybe Kassian really liked his old helmet and it's just how the repainting turned out?

WHL unveiled a new playoff logo.

I don't like the overly detailed trophy.

10 hours ago, ManillaToad said:

 

It's definitely a problem. I've never seen a Hurricanes logo, real or conceptual, that looked any good

Well then you've never seen the Lethbridge Hurricanes logo history,

They include Taz and later HurrJcanes that Washington made them stop using.

(I hope the sarcasm is taken)

6 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

I still don’t think I’ll ever get over their mediocre logo. The original one wasn’t great, but the current, simplified one is worse. I still think “Team Electric Sunglasses” every time I see it, and it’s been more than a decade with the current logo. 

I'm just wondering if there's a larger issue at play with weather themed team names not being able to be translated well into good logos.

The discussion surrounding the toilet bowl Hurricanes logo and the warning flag alternate logos (even that's an issue because for years they used the incorrect flag and now that they use the correct flag, it looks worse), many Thunder teams just using Thor or including lightning in their logo or OKC doing what they did.

You go through the list of weather themed team names and I don't think there's many good logos/brands.

33 minutes ago, tBBP said:

 

All the more reason the league should also allow QBs #s up to 49. Or at least up to 36. Spread the number freedom around...

Maybe it's because of the CFL fan in me and seeing way more relaxed jersey rules, I think the NFL letting more people wear different numbers is fine and not a crazy concept. CFL basically has no numbering rules, besides two criteria for players on the offence.

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Eligible receivers will wear numbers from 0-49 and 70-00.

Ineligible receivers will wear numbers from 50-69.

There was a period in the 90s where the Stampeders quarterback was #20 (Flutie) and one the fan favourite receivers was #25.

The Swift Current Broncos dipped into MiLB territory yesterday where they played a game as the Lake Diefenbaker Slough Sharks (Slough Shark being a nickname for pike apparently).

It's fun enough I think.

I was going to say the numbers look like a poor afterthought, but the original design had the numbers being that pale yellow colour so something must have happened during manufacturing.

43 minutes ago, spartacat_12 said:

I'm personally not a big fan of this. If you take away the webbed D this wouldn't immediately jump out as a Ducks logo. The beveled font looks like something from Dallas's set, and going with black, yellow, and silver was an odd choice. No orange, no bronze, no jade, no eggplant.

Good thing they aren't taking away the webbed D then? Not many anniversary logos would immediately jump out as a logo for the given team if the primary logo wasn't a part of the anniversary logo. If anything, I'd argue this does jump out as a Ducks logo without the webbed D because it's clearly the Mighty Ducks logo shape.

The yellow is there because that's just the colour of the old sticks. I would agree that there's an odd amount of silver (probably because the outline of the Ducks logo uses that silver) and I would have liked to see some of the other colours used too, but I'm wondering if they had the logo idea first and didn't like how all those colours came together? Either that or they wanted some more neutral coloured logo for different applications?

Using either the old Mighty Ducks numbers or the current numbers would have been neat, but I wonder if it also kind of goes back to a more neutral logo and not wanting to focus on either so they went with a generic font. This is the first of the three non-Mighty anniversaries to use anything Mighty in the logo so I do wonder if it was a process in trying to figure out how to combine both eras.

40 minutes ago, spartacat_12 said:

There's basically a 3 in the negative space of the webbed logo, so that feels like a missed opportunity. Would have made more sense than how they incorporated it into their 25th anniversary logo.

That 25th logo was generally not well received and was overshadowed by the anniversary jersey they wore that season. I don't think they would go back to that well with an even more questionable logo turned into a number.

My high school had this logo.

However, some teams used the Arizona Cardinals logo for a number of years, including for my first two years playing football, but then my last year (high school is only three years where I live) us football team switched to this other cardinal decal on the helmets (with the Arizona logo still on our jerseys).

The football team continued to use that other decal up until apparently a couple years ago and now they're using an updated version of the old school logo which I didn't know existed until looking up the logos to post here. So the school must have rebranded at some point in the nearly a decade since I graduated and I don't know which, if any, other teams are using this new logo or if some are still using the Arizona logo or if some are even still using the old logo.

6 hours ago, Nordiks_19 said:

I doubt it'll be just that. An anniversary logo to start then around the draft or after, teasing of a rebranding maybe

Well, all it was yesterday was just the anniversary logo.

I don't know if I'm expecting a rebrand for next year. One, the first phase of the big renovations to the arena area are expected to be completed in 2024 so there have been some suggestion that any rebrand would match that timeline. Two, this anniversary logo still uses the webbed-D. Seems weird to use that logo in the anniversary logo if they aren't going to use it in that anniversary season.

We don't have a next season thread up yet I don't think.

I like it and it's the first anniversary logo they've used that includes both Mighty and non-Mighty eras.

48 minutes ago, spartacat_12 said:

I had heard of a few different groups, but this is the first time Remington has been brought up, so it's an interesting choice for Reynolds. This was the same group that had tried to build an arena in Markham a little while back with the hopes of getting a 2nd Toronto NHL team. Considering how much development potential comes with the Sens moving downtown, it makes sense.

 

For a while it has sounded like Michael Andlauer (Hamilton/Brantford Bulldogs owner) and his group were the favourites to buy the team, but I'd say with Reynolds on board this should make Remington the front-runners.

Friedman said that Remington wasn't seen as top suitor and now he wonders if this might change some things with other buyers.

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"The other thing I think a lot of people are wondering here is what deal they offered Ryan Reynolds that they would link up right away? I think in a lot of these cases, people are very careful about if you want to buy in, you really got to buy in. Again, I wouldn't discount the Bratty family in any way, shape or form, you'd be a fool to do that. But it does seem to be a little interesting to some of the potential buyers. What kind of deal was the offered just to commit yes right now?"

22 hours ago, kiwi_canadian said:

Calgary Hitmen will be honoring Bret "The Hitman" Hart with a Forever a Hitman honor as the team was named after him. They will wear special jerseys for the game.

 

This is the third Bret Hart night and you can see the two previous jerseys behind the players in the top photo, just a pink and black version of this same jersey. The Hitmen had made mention of a Forever a Hitmen night before the season but hadn't yet announced who it would be and now we know.

He'll join Brad Moran (who's number was actually retired because it was before the Flames introduced the "Forever a [name]" program and I don't really have a problem with the Hitmen, because of junior hockey's cyclical nature, and Roughnecks, who hadn't yet retired a number, doing it but it's stupid for the Flames), Ryan Getzlaf, Andrew Ladd and Kelly Kisio.

1 hour ago, Underdog519 said:

I will agree with you, it is like comparing apples to oranges. I'll go one level higher than Jr B. The Jr A 99ers (The direct affiliate of the IceDogs) averages 91 fans per game. I know the OHL has more buying power in terms of fan attractiveness, but on paper Brantford seems like a tough drawing market for hockey

Okay, that's a bit worse then. Yeah, the OHL has more buying power but if the Jr. A team is that low, it's a bit more concerning.

19 hours ago, Underdog519 said:

Will be interesting to see the fan support of the Bulldogs. Despite Brantford arguably being a hockey town, the Bandits average 73 fans per game during the regular season

I think it's too early to make any projections yet, especially when you're comparing an OHL team to a Jr. B team.

I think just a few more people would turn out for an OHL game.

3 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

Side-Note: I’m fairly certain the Frederick Atlantic team is only playing in Frederick until the new stadium gets built in Hagerstown.

8 minutes ago, Dilbert said:

Correct.  Hagerstowns new ballpark should be ready for 2024

I was going to ask, I saw on Twitter that the Keys were still around and was questioning this team.

They're so invested in this whole hullabaloo and finding a "local" name and they're just going to pack up in a season.

I could see the Jets bringing back the 80s/90s throwbacks next year and dropping the blacks. They made some reference to other teams planning to wear throwbacks in 2023 back when they released the black helmets and I'm pretty sure Woody Johnson is aware of the Jets fans thoughts on wanting the throwbacks

The 2023 season is also year five of the current Jets uniforms (wow, already?).

I'm so intrigued by this Bobcats story and now I'm down an Elite Prospects rabbit hole. 

Low level minor league hockey players fascinate me sometimes.

CBS says it wasn't an "intervention" and was instead just one of CBS' regular meetings they do with on-air people.

1 hour ago, Digby said:

In Boston I’ve always seen that gray jerseys seem to sell better to fans than one might think. Maybe here it’s because those have the names on the back (though modern home replicas don’t seem to care about that), maybe it’s because gray is more casual and goes with things more than a bright white jersey. But the sales may be a team-by-team thing.

33 minutes ago, Anubis2051 said:

I think it's something to do with the classic teams. The Yankees sell a ton of the gray as well, probably 60-40 vs home from what I've seen. Tons of throwback BPs as well.

Along with whoever mentioned seeing the White Sox away jerseys a couple pages back, I'm wondering if it could be because the grey jerseys have the city name on them? Especially for cities like Chicago, New York and Boston where the city itself is a brand of sorts that gets repped, some people might be more attracted to a jersey that says "Chicago", "New York" or "Boston" on the front.

The White Sox and Yankees also have pinstripes and logos on the whites as opposed to a plain jersey with a script so some people also might prefer the simpler look of the greys over something a bit more "gaudy" for everyday wear of the whites (along with the city name being on the front thing).

These Ducks jerseys suck enough already, but the dark socks don't match the striping pattern. It looks like an attempt to call back to the Mighty Ducks  with the flipped sleeve striping on the socks but the gold and white don't flip.

I like them.

I don't like that they stopped doing individual jerseys for each division. What's the point of doing not doing that if you have four teams? It must have not made sense production cost wise.

18 minutes ago, ptay said:

Can't tell what Pittsburgh and Baltimore are going for here....

Pittsburgh Yo-Yo's?

2 hours ago, ldconcepts said:

Unless we’re talking about a minor change, this would feel completely unnecessary.

 

They could prove me wrong but I’ve yet to see an idea that improves upon their classic design.

I've said it before, but I think the Medicine Hat Tigers have a better Flyers jersey than the Flyers.

The Tigers dark jerseys are black (hence the colour position change here in the white jersey) with orange sleeves and white cuffs.

7 hours ago, fortunat1 said:

The Angels currently have some of my least favorite uniforms in the MLB despite having a decent logo and wordmarks to work with.

 

Their first move should be making some sort of alternate logo with imagery that isn't just their A logo. It's far too redundant to have it on the chest, cap, and sleeve. Give us something with wings, or a modernized California with halo logo. In the process of updating logos, they should drop silver entirely and make the halo yellow, because it gives the brand more life than silver does. They should also de-bevel their logos to match the uniforms (which look better without the bevel).

 

Secondly, they need to fix the mess that are their uniforms. These are all pretty minor things, but there is a lot to fix. They need a navy crown/red brim cap, and maybe a panel cap, similar to their City Connect. I'd eliminate all of the unnecessary outlines and drop shadows on their wordmark, because it is far too cluttered. They also need to make the red jersey more legible, as the red text on red jersey isn't ideal.

 

I understand that these uniforms have lots of history attached to them (World Series, Trout, Ohtani) but that shouldn't be the reason that we have stuck with this mess of an identity for 20 years. There are lots of little things to fix, but making changes would make the team look significantly better.

As an Angels fan, I'll beat this drum forever. The Angels do not need a navy hat. The Angels do not need any more navy at all.

They own the red on red look, whereas there are already way way too many navy(or blue)/red teams in the MLB for the Angels to do it. Look at the infamous AL West hat photo. There are only two hats that stick out and the Angels shouldn't change that.

Heck, even the old California Angels look a lot of people like is just Red Sox West. The red on red is the modern Angels.

17 hours ago, Kevin W. said:

If we're going that route, then they need to do Oilers-Flames at Lake Louise.

I think that's a non-starter because Lake Louise in the national park, so there's a bunch of governmental hoops the NHL would have to jump through.