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16 hours ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said:

If Utah wanted to tie in to the red rock, why not base the identity off of it.

All they’d have to do is make a white jersey. They have the black for the road and the original red rock for the alt. They have logos and a court. Would have been so simple.

Logically that makes sense, but the fact that SLC is 200-250 miles from anything remotely red rock is the problem. If they did the current logos, jerseys and courts in black, yellow and white with the current alts. I'd be fine with that. The leaked jerseys are just too plain.

On 4/26/2022 at 8:36 PM, Chawls said:

I don’t see why Utah can’t just use their Red Rocks color scheme. 

My bet on the redesign and new colors was to tie the red rock colors better into the overall branding theme. Yellow and black are bees colors which is the state nickname and the colors are also a hot color on the slopes which ties northern and southern Utah together better. What does it say about JAZZ? Not much.

And there lays the dilemma trying to mesh Jazz and Utah together in branding. All the more reason they should have just gone with the Utah Saints when they moved here in ‘79.

5 hours ago, FinsUp1214 said:

I’d have much rather had that mashup for one season than redrock dark mode for another. I actually think the mashup is really good for what it is, and looks more “Jazz” to me than redrock ever has.

Meh. The mashup is underwhelming. However the Utah Basketball logo in Jazz colors is  

Oooooo a game!

City:
Green - Minnesota
White - Charlotte, Houston
Navy - Detroit, Indiana
Gray - Orlando
Black - Utah, Sacramento

Statement:
Royal - Minnesota
Navy - Memphis, Denver
Purple - Charlotte
Red - Philadelphia
Dark Gray - Brooklyn
Black - Boston, Cleveland, Portland

Classic:
White - Cleveland

On 3/1/2022 at 9:22 AM, chakfu said:

 

I thought it was the new wordmark, but one edge of the T has an angle that the jersey version doesn't.  Didn't remember seeing the yellow secondary logo recolor either.   For some reason I thought the shirt was referenced as a clue to the new set. Wishful thinking,, I guess.

 

As for the Commanders, it was just weird we acted like the identity wasnt confirmed after a clearly legit accidental reveal.

I think if anything it'll be a clue for the new City Jersey. I would be surprised if the Jazz walked away from the sunset jerseys with the new look.

2 hours ago, DEAD! said:

I never knew Utah was that welcoming for the  LGBTQ community. 

You'd be surprised ... https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=53263109&itype=CMSID

25 minutes ago, KittSmith_95 said:

Once again, heavy usage of Black & Yellow. 
 

We’re getting new Jazz stuff next year, aren’t we? 

Yeah. I am pretty confident we're getting a sneak peek of something with that ASG logo ...

9 hours ago, CATLogo1 said:

I agree with this 100%. I feel like the NBA should revert the All-Star Game format back to Eastern Conference vs. Western Conference, and should allow players representing their conference to wear their team's uniform design in the All-Star Game, like how it was from 1997-2002. The only catch is that when the All-Star Game is based in a Western Conference city, the Western Conference All-Stars (including those from the Los Angeles Lakers) should wear their team's white Association Edition uniform design in that particular game.

I would be "okay" with that. The alternate white jersey does fix the problem the NBA had in Oakland in 2000. But, honestly, I prefer a uniform ASG jersey in the NBA. I like when they are just a little over the top. Just put effort into it, tie them into the host city or team and/or go back to color vs. color with a blue vs. red matchup. 

On 2/6/2022 at 4:44 AM, pepis21 said:

All Star Game court:

I like different styles of floor in paint.

This ... works. It totally goes with the whole "remix" 75th anniversary theme. I love the subtle ASG tributes to Cleveland. It's a good look for an ASG. Too bad the jerseys are sh**.

1 hour ago, sayahh said:

I still miss the swoosh-less days.  But eff baseball: bunch of billionaires trying to pay millionaires less money.  

Isn't that much every professional sport in a nutshell?

5 hours ago, Krona said:

I was really hoping for some pre NBA 1920s uniform news...

Considering all of the 2021-22 jerseys have been unveiled or leaked and the recent leak of the 2022-23 Suns' jerseys this might be a good time to start this thread.

First off, here are the Suns leaks ...

Here is a fans' mockup from the leak ...

A few other rumors or news ...

• The regular City Jerseys will return. It'll be interesting to see if any teams keep their 75th anniversary City Editions next season. The Pacers, Grizzlies, Pistons, Blazers, Bulls, Celtics, Spurs, Kings, Thunder, Wizards, Timberwolves, Hornets, Warriors and Knicks could definitely pull it off considering the look and colors aren't far off their current full-time looks.
• Speaking of City Jerseys and the Suns, last year the Suns were testing fan interest in an Aztec-themed City Jersey for the 2022-23 season. It got some pushback so I am not sure if it is a go?
• The Jazz are switching from navy, green and gold to black, volt/yellow/gold (whatever you want to call it) and white. They'll keep the Jazz note within the identity, but it seems like new logo sets and not just a recoloring is happening.
• There have been some rumors of the Cavs rebranding. Not sure of the details, but I think I heard they're eliminating blue from the logo?  Though you wouldn't really know it's there in the first place with the current look.
• It'll be interesting to see if the Earned Edition comes back. It seems like it's been an every other year "thing" since Nike introduced them.
• And, of course, there's the NBA All-Star Game in Salt Lake City and whatever sh** jerseys Nike comes up with for the game.

2 hours ago, dont care said:

No, the other leak only had back numbers that were barely visible. This game will be a s***show for officials, and announcers

Well, it's an ASG there isn't much officiating to be had.

But, honestly the NBA is the only Top 4 sport that can go numberless on one part of the jersey for a game like this because players' mugs are the most marketable due to the nature of the sport. 

Doesn't make sh** jerseys like these excusable, but I get it.

6 hours ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

Gee I wonder who that looks like?

GO BROOKLYN KNICKS!

I don’t remember the Knicks playing on this court before?

3 hours ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

Regarding SLC, hows the support for the Grizzlies? I know it's only ECHL...

There are some good hardcore fans. Everyone in the community knows who they are.

41 minutes ago, JerseyJimmy said:

mentioned this before, but I seriously wonder how Salt Lake City would fare as an NHL market. it'd at least have to be better than Phoenix; I get it'd be one of the smallest in the league, but if nothing else, you have the LORE of the 2002 Winter Olympics to play up.

We'd need a new arena. The Maverik Center is too small and Vivint just isn't a good arena. But, with the city bidding on the 2030/2034 Winter Olympics ... who knows? I'd love to see SLC get a club. Bring back the Golden Eagles.

You just KNOW that they're going to screw this up. The NHL will bypass Quebec and Houston interests to sell them to a group wanting a NHL team in Biloxi, Mississippi because ... SUN BELT!

On 11/7/2021 at 4:07 PM, Shadojoker said:

Sacramento Kings missed the mark on theirs. If they would have done something like this...2 tone jersey with SacTown wordmark, but maybe half purple,  black and

 Other half  light blue, red and white or even just have the last name underneath like this jersey. So many elements that could have blended nicely. 

 

 

 

Then again that would have looked like the Hornets City. (Shrug). Just my 2 cents.

As hideous as that jersey would be that you described I agree.

Here are some of my thoughts ...

1) I would have much rather had a 100% throwback or reverse retro-esque batch of jerseys. Most of these "mixtape" jerseys are extremely forced and trying too hard to be unique (looking at you Miami with your ransom note and yellow trim).

2) There are some jerseys that I kind of like and IMO could work as an alt (with a tweak or two of course) ..

• Detroit - I'm more so intrigued with the use of teal on the blue and red. It kind of works.
• Boston - Nothing offensive about it and I like the name plates on the back. I could see the Celtics keeping a throwback-ish alt. in this style around for a while.
• Toronto - I am not crazy about the Drake colors, but I love the nod to the Barney jerseys and '19 championship.
• Minnesota - The two tone colorway kind of ruins it for me, but eliminate that and it would be a Top 10 jersey for me.
• New York - Get rid of the Nike NYC and MSG logos and I think it works as an alt. Maybe add some blue into there, but I love the simplicity of it.

3) The jerseys that just don't work IMO are ...

• Atlanta - I hate the two number font look, which don't match with the text fonts at all. No cohesion at all.
• Houston - I think I would be okay with this if the number was in a different font. I get what it's representing, but it's so jarring ordinary that it kills the jersey for me.
• Dallas - The Dallas text is too mushed together and small that it really looks like an after thought (which it very well could have been) on that jersey cut and design. 
• San Antonio - The fiesta colorway feels and is waaaay too forced. I feel like it would been better executed on a black jersey as well.
• Sacramento - The Sactown script, especially that "S" looks really amateur. I also wish the names were under the number on the back. And, where's the baby blue?
• Charlotte - The hive to pinstripe is supposed to be cool, right? It's just waaaay over designed. And, why isn't there a Bobcats nod? Or am I missing something?
• Oklahoma City - The design isn't THAT bad. The lack of color would be excusable IF they didn't have that huge ass Love's ad taking front and center! 
• Brooklyn - Maybe I am used to the black and white Brooklyn Nets now, but the R,W,B look feels odd to me. Maybe if the blue was baby blue or royal blue? It just feels dull.

4) As forced as the Miami jersey feels to me, I think it works within the program. It's crazy and out there enough that the mismatched numbers and fonts work. But, just for this year. We don't need to see this return in any shape or form.

5) I am bummed that the Jazz, Pelicans and Suns didn't participate. I think the Pelicans could have done something that nodded to the Jazz and Hornets. I would love to see if there was a Jazz prototype out there. A Jazz note jersey in the '90s colors would have been interesting. 

6) I wonder if we're going to see a mashup design of past ASG jerseys? I have a feeling we might. Could be interesting if they decide to mashup past Cleveland ASG designs or ASG designs in general.

51 minutes ago, Lights Out said:

It's disappointing that the Jazz and Suns decided to sit this one out.

I am too. I would have been more than okay if they regulated their City for their Statement Jerseys this year. If anything I think both are better.

44 minutes ago, Frylock said:

I think you’re missing the point I’m making. Whatever source is being used for the old San Diego Clippers font, it’s absolutely wrong. Nike and/or the NBA should do better. Furthermore, no other team in this Mix Tape series is mixing elements from other franchises, so why would they used an old Philadelphia font that doesn’t match? It’s sloppy research by Nike designers, and whomever at the NBA who approved it.

I see the point you're trying to make, but I feel like it's still closer to the SD Clippers font than the 76ers. Needless to say, the NBA has never had a good track record with producing accurate throwback jerseys. They either have the wrong font, wrong sized font or placement on the jersey.

Some examples ...

SIDE NOTE: I betcha the number system on the current Clippers Remix jersey are coming from the saved files of the 2003 throwbacks seen above.

1 hour ago, mattharveysc said:

As a die-hard Jazz fan whom is at almost every game, owns every style jersey they have ever worn, one who still has not got over last years playoffs... and still cringes when I see the Jordan Push ...... I'm really having a hard time with this new rebrand and color direction.

With that said, I agree the "Note Logo" needs to stay. It's one of the most recognizable logos in all of sports.

Also, it was said from Owner Ryan Smith that the "Note Logo" is staying in "some capacity". I'm not sure it will be the primary mark, but it's staying. 

I'm VERY reluctant of the rebranding, but knowing the Note Logo is staying helps it sit better with me. I think it helps knowing Ryan Smith grew up a Jazz fan. But, I can't knock it until I see it.

2 minutes ago, monkeypower said:

 

Have you not read/kept up with this thread? (which is understandable considering how long it is)

 

They're navy/green/yellow/white right now and the Red Rocks is in it's second iteration since it came in five years ago as part of the first City jersey go-around. I believe the Jazz aren't getting a new City/Mixtape jersey this season in exchange for keeping the Red Rocks around.

 

They are expected to change next year to a black/white/yellow scheme, which is what the social media/website/online branding is right now.

 

I already said in this thread that I think the whole conversation about the Jazz not "picking a colour scheme and sticking with it" is a tad overblown considering pretty much every other team. I also don't think changing to black/white/yellow fixes anything, and not just in that "15th standard" XKCD that keeps getting posted everywhere, unless they drop everything they currently wear and only go black/white/yellow.

I agree with most of what you're saying @monkeypower ... and honestly, as a lifelong Jazz fan, I think it's more important to keep the "note logo" than what are the team colors. The note is what connects the past, present and future and that should remain. 

2 hours ago, Frylock said:

That is sloppy work by Nike and the NBA. That’s nowhere close to the old San Diego font. If anything, it’s akin to the Iverson-era black Sixers jerseys.

It's not suppose to be a straight throwback jersey. It's a "remix" of different design elements from the team's past.