gosioux76 Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Mario Lemieux yesterday said he would move the Penguins from Pittsburgh if the public doesn't finance all but $47 million of his $278 million arena plan. He wouldn't identify the three cities who have contacted him about a move.Here's the link:http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-re...s/s_198321.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittunited Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 He seems to have threatened this every year around the time of his golf tournament... OWNER -- Pittsburgh Spiders (UL) * Dynamo Missouri (PLA) * Montreal Maroons (SHL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notch Novelty Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 City of Pittsburgh would rather keep the Pirates than the Penguins. 2 Cups won by Penguins and they want to keep the Pirates who will always finish last or near the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted June 11, 2004 Author Share Posted June 11, 2004 City of Pittsburgh would rather keep the Pirates than the Penguins. 2 Cups won by Penguins and they want to keep the Pirates who will always finish last or near the bottom. what makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yh Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Yes, but the Pirates have been around for about a century and the Pens for a substantially shorter time. The Pirates have a brand new ballpark that would be a tremendous white elephant if it were abandoned, yet the Igloo is easily disposable and is 40 years old. Even though the Pens have had success (and it's been 12 years now), the Pirates are more of a Pittsburgh sports tradition.Oh, and as for the 3 cities, I'm guessing KC, Houston and Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted June 11, 2004 Author Share Posted June 11, 2004 It's worth noting that the public didn't willingly pay for the Pirates or Steelers stadiums. Those plans were voted down by referendum, only to be tucked quietly behind a piece of state legislation that was passed before the public had time to blink. I'm sure Pittsburgh residents aren't interested in seeing any of its pro teams leave. Pittsburgh has a strong sports tradition, though one that isn't willing to shell out big bucks to support subpar products like the Penguins and Pirates.The general public in Pittsburgh and elsewhere seem less and less interested in backing publicly financed stadiums after swindles like the one here in Pittsburgh. The Penguins, I think, are asking for public money at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Yes, but the Pirates have been around for about a century and the Pens for a substantially shorter time. The Pirates have a brand new ballpark that would be a tremendous white elephant if it were abandoned, yet the Igloo is easily disposable and is 40 years old. Even though the Pens have had success (and it's been 12 years now), the Pirates are more of a Pittsburgh sports tradition.Oh, and as for the 3 cities, I'm guessing KC, Houston and Cleveland. Let's not count out Winnipeg just yet. I have my doubts about Cleveland as a strong hockey market...KC would do well...as would Houston...but how badly would Pittsburghers scream if they moved to Cleveland? I say add Winnipeg to the list Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted June 11, 2004 Author Share Posted June 11, 2004 Yes, but the Pirates have been around for about a century and the Pens for a substantially shorter time. The Pirates have a brand new ballpark that would be a tremendous white elephant if it were abandoned, yet the Igloo is easily disposable and is 40 years old. Even though the Pens have had success (and it's been 12 years now), the Pirates are more of a Pittsburgh sports tradition.Oh, and as for the 3 cities, I'm guessing KC, Houston and Cleveland. Let's not count out Winnipeg just yet. I have my doubts about Cleveland as a strong hockey market...KC would do well...as would Houston...but how badly would Pittsburghers scream if they moved to Cleveland? I say add Winnipeg to the list Well, there was that whole deal a few months back about Winnipeg's deputy mayor sending a note to Penguins officials about moving the team there. There's probably some merit to that thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Houston is not that great of a market for them. I'd say Winnipeg or Kansas City. Kansas City would be a stronger choice if they had put a shovel in the ground for the Sprint Center recently. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yh Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Yes, but the Pirates have been around for about a century and the Pens for a substantially shorter time. The Pirates have a brand new ballpark that would be a tremendous white elephant if it were abandoned, yet the Igloo is easily disposable and is 40 years old. Even though the Pens have had success (and it's been 12 years now), the Pirates are more of a Pittsburgh sports tradition.Oh, and as for the 3 cities, I'm guessing KC, Houston and Cleveland. Let's not count out Winnipeg just yet. I have my doubts about Cleveland as a strong hockey market...KC would do well...as would Houston...but how badly would Pittsburghers scream if they moved to Cleveland? I say add Winnipeg to the list Yes, I should have put Winnipeg instead of Cleveland. I forgot about the new arena being built there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Howard Baldwin has contacted the City of Hartford, of possibly building a new arena here. He is also trying to buy the Penguins, meaning they could come back to Hartford. We have a great fan base, it'll just be we're stuck between 3 superpowers in New York and Boston. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerws Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 A lock out makes it all moot. Even after the NHL resumese if locked out, the prevailing thought is taht teams will be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted June 11, 2004 Author Share Posted June 11, 2004 A lock out makes it all moot. Even after the NHL resumese if locked out, the prevailing thought is taht teams will be cut. That's a good point. I haven't been following the CBA stuff. How likely would it be that the league might contract/lose franchises following a lock-out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfannova Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Howard Baldwin has contacted the City of Hartford, of possibly building a new arena here. He is also trying to buy the Penguins, meaning they could come back to Hartford. We have a great fan base, it'll just be we're stuck between 3 superpowers in New York and Boston. So, you want to do the same thing to the people of Pittsburgh that was done to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 When Pittsburgh built a new arena for University of Pittsburgh Basketball they should have built one for the Pens instead and let the Panthers use the same arena.The Hurricanes Arena and the planned Devils arena in Newark are built for a NHL team and a NCAA Basketball team. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 The storybook storyline would have the team move to Quebec...(Not a prediction--just a thought) Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0dotcom Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 just a thought with CLeveland, how would that move sit in Columbus having another team in the state? personally, I'd like to see them in Winnipeg, but KC wouldn't be a bad location either. It's close to STL, but I think it would be large enought to do well in it's own right.I honestly don't know alot about Houston, but I'm skeptical about moving a financially dispondent team into a new market. If they had an owner with cash to burn then it might work out, but it would be smart to move them into a market where it is a very good bet that the team will generate and create a fanbase that will support it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 No team in Clevealnd Ohio has 1 team that needs to develop its fan base so it can be a healthy team in the future. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notch Novelty Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Penguins will be good in 2 years. Mark my words. Another high draft pick and the Pirates at the bottom again. Pittsburgh builds Pirates a new stadium makes them want to keep the Pirates over the Pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesCraven Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Well, the whole point is that Mountaineer Gaming wants to help build a new arena if:[1] The State Legislature passes a bill legalizing slot machines at racetracks, and...[2] The company gets a license for a throughbred race track in the greater Pittsburgh Area that would include a arena for the Pens.Of course, given the speed of how things go in Harrisburg (Pennsylvania's state capital) which is a joke in legislative circles outside Pennsylvania, and the success of one Smarty Jones, it may get done faster, maybe by the fall. "I better go take a long walk off a short pier or something."Some people on this bolard have told me to do just that.My "Ron Mexico" alias is "Jon Tobago". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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