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2011-12 NBA Logo & Uniform changes

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Thankfully it looks like the Kings aren't moving to Anaheim so we won't have to see those dreadful Royals uniform.

I'm disappointed to see Washington change their uniforms. Sure, it makes sense that they switch to red white and blue because they're in our nations capital, but c'mon. Don't we have enough red and blue? I saw the rumored "new logo," and it's absolutely hideous. Their current color scheme is interesting and unique.

Why does everyone say the Wizards have a unique color scheme? Change the gold to silver and you have the Magic and the Timberwolves. And with the gold only an accent, they already look similar enough.

Well, considering no team has gold and blue as a color scheme... I'd say that's unique..

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Thankfully it looks like the Kings aren't moving to Anaheim so we won't have to see those dreadful Royals uniform.

I'm disappointed to see Washington change their uniforms. Sure, it makes sense that they switch to red white and blue because they're in our nations capital, but c'mon. Don't we have enough red and blue? I saw the rumored "new logo," and it's absolutely hideous. Their current color scheme is interesting and unique.

Why does everyone say the Wizards have a unique color scheme? Change the gold to silver and you have the Magic and the Timberwolves. And with the gold only an accent, they already look similar enough.

Well, considering no team has gold and blue as a color scheme... I'd say that's unique..

Their primary colors are blue and black. Gold is only used as a minor trim color. Not enough to give them any uniqueness from the others.

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Thankfully it looks like the Kings aren't moving to Anaheim so we won't have to see those dreadful Royals uniform.

I'm disappointed to see Washington change their uniforms. Sure, it makes sense that they switch to red white and blue because they're in our nations capital, but c'mon. Don't we have enough red and blue? I saw the rumored "new logo," and it's absolutely hideous. Their current color scheme is interesting and unique.

Why does everyone say the Wizards have a unique color scheme? Change the gold to silver and you have the Magic and the Timberwolves. And with the gold only an accent, they already look similar enough.

Well, considering no team has gold and blue as a color scheme... I'd say that's unique..

Their primary colors are blue and black. Gold is only used as a minor trim color. Not enough to give them any uniqueness from the others.

Well how can you say any team has a unique color scheme?

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We've also seen the Wizards do a bit of an homage to the Unseld era with their gold alts, complete with a horizontal stripe at the sholder and star accents:

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Am I the only one that noticed the radical difference between the unis Elvin Hayes is wearing, and his teammate in the background? What is going one with that?

Elvin Hayes is in the correct one (look back to his right). That one plate is in a different or inside out jersey. I've heard why but can't remember. Was it actually a Spurs player

Believe it or not, we actually covered this once on the boards.

I had that issue; from memory (and from what I remember about the thread about it), it was Mike Gale of the Spurs in the inside-out road Bullets jersey. Something about losing his uniform before the game or something...the Bullets loaned him a road uni.

Bingo. It was game 3 of the 1978 East semis, Gale's uniform was lost in transit so he had to use a spare Bullets road uni. By game 4, he'd got his Spurs uni back. I've been searching for footage of this game for a while, but to no avail.

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Thankfully it looks like the Kings aren't moving to Anaheim so we won't have to see those dreadful Royals uniform.

I'm disappointed to see Washington change their uniforms. Sure, it makes sense that they switch to red white and blue because they're in our nations capital, but c'mon. Don't we have enough red and blue? I saw the rumored "new logo," and it's absolutely hideous. Their current color scheme is interesting and unique.

Why does everyone say the Wizards have a unique color scheme? Change the gold to silver and you have the Magic and the Timberwolves. And with the gold only an accent, they already look similar enough.

Well, considering no team has gold and blue as a color scheme... I'd say that's unique..

Their primary colors are blue and black. Gold is only used as a minor trim color. Not enough to give them any uniqueness from the others.

Well how can you say any team has a unique color scheme?

When ones primary color or 2 colors are obviously different from others. In baseball, the A's are an obvious choice (which is weird because green should not be a one-team unique color). But you line up the Magic, Wizards and Timberwolves, and they're color pallet is very similar. Orlando's blue is a little different from the other two, but not enough to call anyone of them unique, especially considering that black is the secondary for all 3, and isn't really minimumly used. The Wizards use it less than the other 2, but it's still far more used than the gold.

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I'm curious to see which teams introduce a 3rd uniform. I know the NBA rule is that a team has to wait 3 years after introducing a new uniform set, but there's obviously a massive gray area cause the Cavaliers had a 3rd jersey in 2010-2011 with the introduction of their new uni's. Can anyone clarify this "gray" area?

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I'm curious to see which teams introduce a 3rd uniform. I know the NBA rule is that a team has to wait 3 years after introducing a new uniform set, but there's obviously a massive gray area cause the Cavaliers had a 3rd jersey in 2010-2011 with the introduction of their new uni's. Can anyone clarify this "gray" area?

How many times did the Cavs wear them? I don't think they were an official alternate. At least not one they could wear multiple times, as far as I know.

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I'm curious to see which teams introduce a 3rd uniform. I know the NBA rule is that a team has to wait 3 years after introducing a new uniform set, but there's obviously a massive gray area cause the Cavaliers had a 3rd jersey in 2010-2011 with the introduction of their new uni's. Can anyone clarify this "gray" area?

How many times did the Cavs wear them? I don't think they were an official alternate. At least not one they could wear multiple times, as far as I know.

I think they only wore the new black CavFanatic jersey once, but I'm still curious has to this gray area that allows to team to wear a completely different uni without it being considered a 3rd alternate. I wish the NFL had this too.

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I'm curious to see which teams introduce a 3rd uniform. I know the NBA rule is that a team has to wait 3 years after introducing a new uniform set, but there's obviously a massive gray area cause the Cavaliers had a 3rd jersey in 2010-2011 with the introduction of their new uni's. Can anyone clarify this "gray" area?

How many times did the Cavs wear them? I don't think they were an official alternate. At least not one they could wear multiple times, as far as I know.

I think they only wore the new black CavFanatic jersey once, but I'm still curious has to this gray area that allows to team to wear a completely different uni without it being considered a 3rd alternate. I wish the NFL had this too.

Other than throwbacks and special occasion jerseys (Hornets Mardi Gras, all the holiday jerseys), this is the only instance that I know of, so I don't know what gray area you're referring to. No one else has had an alternate before the third season of a new look.

And the Spanish jerseys, which are a league thing.

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I'm curious to see which teams introduce a 3rd uniform. I know the NBA rule is that a team has to wait 3 years after introducing a new uniform set, but there's obviously a massive gray area cause the Cavaliers had a 3rd jersey in 2010-2011 with the introduction of their new uni's. Can anyone clarify this "gray" area?

How many times did the Cavs wear them? I don't think they were an official alternate. At least not one they could wear multiple times, as far as I know.

I think they only wore the new black CavFanatic jersey once, but I'm still curious has to this gray area that allows to team to wear a completely different uni without it being considered a 3rd alternate. I wish the NFL had this too.

Other than throwbacks and special occasion jerseys (Hornets Mardi Gras, all the holiday jerseys), this is the only instance that I know of, so I don't know what gray area you're referring to. No one else has had an alternate before the third season of a new look.

And the Spanish jerseys, which are a league thing.

That's what I mean. Is a throwback or fan-jersey such as the CavFanatic not considered a 3rd uni? I'm just asking for clarification per NBA uni rules. I know the NFL only allowed an exception to their policy during the AFL Anniversary and allowed the selected teams to have 4 uni's that season, but that's the only time the NFL allows that.

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I'm curious to see which teams introduce a 3rd uniform. I know the NBA rule is that a team has to wait 3 years after introducing a new uniform set, but there's obviously a massive gray area cause the Cavaliers had a 3rd jersey in 2010-2011 with the introduction of their new uni's. Can anyone clarify this "gray" area?

How many times did the Cavs wear them? I don't think they were an official alternate. At least not one they could wear multiple times, as far as I know.

I think they only wore the new black CavFanatic jersey once, but I'm still curious has to this gray area that allows to team to wear a completely different uni without it being considered a 3rd alternate. I wish the NFL had this too.

Other than throwbacks and special occasion jerseys (Hornets Mardi Gras, all the holiday jerseys), this is the only instance that I know of, so I don't know what gray area you're referring to. No one else has had an alternate before the third season of a new look.

And the Spanish jerseys, which are a league thing.

That's what I mean. Is a throwback or fan-jersey such as the CavFanatic not considered a 3rd uni? I'm just asking for clarification per NBA uni rules. I know the NFL only allowed an exception to their policy during the AFL Anniversary and allowed the selected teams to have 4 uni's that season, but that's the only time the NFL allows that.

With the NBA probably not. The NFL only has 16 games, so alternates are gonna be restricted more. The NBA has 82 games so they can do these special jerseys more. Although the throwbacks are getting a little ridiculous in how often they're worn.

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That's what I mean. Is a throwback or fan-jersey such as the CavFanatic not considered a 3rd uni? I'm just asking for clarification per NBA uni rules. I know the NFL only allowed an exception to their policy during the AFL Anniversary and allowed the selected teams to have 4 uni's that season, but that's the only time the NFL allows that.

The CavFanatic can't be considered a "third uni", seeing as last years' Cavs wore their home, away, blue alt third uni, CavFanatic uni, *and* at least one throwback.

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That's what I mean. Is a throwback or fan-jersey such as the CavFanatic not considered a 3rd uni? I'm just asking for clarification per NBA uni rules. I know the NFL only allowed an exception to their policy during the AFL Anniversary and allowed the selected teams to have 4 uni's that season, but that's the only time the NFL allows that.

The CavFanatic can't be considered a "third uni", seeing as last years' Cavs wore their home, away, blue alt third uni, CavFanatic uni, *and* at least one throwback.

Yea, that's way too many. The NBA is a little out of control right now. Can't stand the shoes either...for example: one player will have white, another in green, and another in yellow.

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I was looking around the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office database and found these logos, submitted by the NBA earlier this year.

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The first logo looks really familiar. I can't remember from where. The second logo looks kind of pointless. Eastern AND Western Conferences? What's the point of that logo?

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The first logo looks really familiar. I can't remember from where. The second logo looks kind of pointless. Eastern AND Western Conferences? What's the point of that logo?

The first one is similar to the Lebron silhouette logo.

You can see it on the tongue of these...

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Yes, I believe that is LeBron's version of the "Jumpan" logo.

In other unsubstantiated news, a Wizards' season ticket holder and frequent contributor on RealGM's message board had this to say about the new Wizards unis:

I spoke to my ticket agent today and while she told me that she has not seen the new uniforms, she did say that she spoke to someone who did. According to this person, the predominant color of the jersey will be red (no surprise there). She also said that while the current wizards symbol (wizard with a star) will be on the uniform, it will be very small and will not be noticeable. I asked whether the name Wizards will be de-emphasized, and she said yes. However, she did not say what would be on the jersey itself. No real surprises here but I thought I would pass along this info.

Now, I'm taking this with a *huge* grain of salt. But if true, this would confirm that (a.) the Wizards will recolor their existing logo to avoid the $500K fee, and (b.) they will pull a Utah and basically use a secondary logo as their primary instead. If that's the case, I hope they follow the Pistons' model by eventually changing the official primary logo a few years later to one that better fits the rebrand.

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Yes, I believe that is LeBron's version of the "Jumpan" logo.

In other unsubstantiated news, a Wizards' season ticket holder and frequent contributor on RealGM's message board had this to say about the new Wizards unis:

I spoke to my ticket agent today and while she told me that she has not seen the new uniforms, she did say that she spoke to someone who did. According to this person, the predominant color of the jersey will be red (no surprise there). She also said that while the current wizards symbol (wizard with a star) will be on the uniform, it will be very small and will not be noticeable. I asked whether the name Wizards will be de-emphasized, and she said yes. However, she did not say what would be on the jersey itself. No real surprises here but I thought I would pass along this info.

Now, I'm taking this with a *huge* grain of salt. But if true, this would confirm that (a.) the Wizards will recolor their existing logo to avoid the $500K fee, and (b.) they will pull a Utah and basically use a secondary logo as their primary instead. If that's the case, I hope they follow the Pistons' model by eventually changing the official primary logo a few years later to one that better fits the rebrand.

Very interesting (if accurate). I wonder what they mean by "de-emphasizing" Wizards. That really confuses me. I wonder if we'll be seeing "DC" or "Washington" wordmarks on one or both jerseys.

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That's an awful idea. The Wizards isn't a great name, but it's still their name. It should still feature prominently in the uniform set.

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I was looking around the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office database and found these logos, submitted by the NBA earlier this year.

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Interesting. Maybe the NBA wants to standardize the conferences like the NFL, which would explain why there is a logo with Western on an East template. It also looks like they re-aligned the ball. Still confused why it would have both conferences though. Maybe an all-star game or finals logo?

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The first logo looks really familiar. I can't remember from where. The second logo looks kind of pointless. Eastern AND Western Conferences? What's the point of that logo?

The first one is similar to the Lebron silhouette logo.

You can see it on the tongue of these...

Nike%20Zoom%20LeBron%20Soldier%203%20III%20Supreme%20Akron%20White%20Midnight%20Navy-Metallic%20Gold%20384535-141.jpg

I agree, that is the same logo (or one VERY close). The thing I find fascinating is that the logo was submitted to the USPTO by NBA Properties, not by Nike or LeBron James's own representatives.

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The hell? All you young people and your LeBron James crap.

The logo that TxRangersFan posted is clearly Michael Jordan. I watched a hell of a lot of Bulls basketball in the day and that is him going for a dunk all the way down to the tongue sticking out (well ok, maybe not the tongue).

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The logo that TxRangersFan posted is clearly Michael Jordan. I watched a hell of a lot of Bulls basketball in the day and that is him going for a dunk all the way down to the tongue sticking out (well ok, maybe not the tongue).

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The logo that TxRangersFan posted is clearly Michael Jordan. I watched a hell of a lot of Bulls basketball in the day and that is him going for a dunk all the way down to the tongue sticking out (well ok, maybe not the tongue).

To me, it is quite clearly taken from this picture of LeBron:

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I get that Western / Eastern doesn't sound at good as Eastern / Western, but shouldn't the logo at least resemble the compass layout? i.e. Eastern on the right hand side, Western on the left hand side? (assuming the logo is "standing upward")

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