Epiphanic Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 This is a concept for my fantasy baseball team, the Rollag Steamers. Some may remember the franchise. The Independent League folded, but the Steamers live on in their original form. As a SmallBall team! Nothing to great has changed since I last posted them but I want to resubmit the design to new constructive criticism.What are some simple suggestions to make this better? Should I change the color scheme? Also, I'd like to create some sort of wordmark. The font I chose is Allegro BT. Is there a better one or how should I go about designing it? Thanks in advance for any help and advice. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shumway Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I'm sort of confused what exactly it's supposed to be. I'm not saying you did a bad render, I just don't know what it's supposed to resemble. The font looks alright, although there probably is a better one out there. I'd say put an outline around the text as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 The fact that you can't tell what it's supposed to be shows me that I have more work than I expected. It's a steam whistle. Regarding the font, I'm not sure what color to outline it in. Black doesn't do it for me, but a lighter color blends into the wording too much. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shumway Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Ok, now I get it. I'd say put a little indication of the opening where the steam comes out, just to clarify the whistle. As far as the text, I'm not too sure what to do about that. The gray isn't all that light, so that might make an acceptable outline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I hope they don't move to Cleveland ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesi427 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 LOL...it looks like a dildo.... FANTASY SPORTS:Â UBA (NBA): New York Scrapers | CL (MLB): St Pete Beach Clippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard69 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 yay for the Western Minnesota Steam Threshers Reunion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 I want to thank Biohazard69 for the knowledge of what this team is named after. Thank you.Yeah, I've heard that should be based in Cleveland or Boston for that matter, but this is supposed to be a "professional" name. Also, I'm currently working on a new steam whistle for the logo. I hope that it will be less "dildo" like. The trouble is getting the steam to flow around it to a point that I like. Does anybody have font/wordmark ideas that could work better than what I have now?Thanks again Bio for the cheer. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesi427 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Here is a reference you may find useful: FANTASY SPORTS:Â UBA (NBA): New York Scrapers | CL (MLB): St Pete Beach Clippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Thought I'd give everyone a sneek peek at the new Steamer logo. The whistle needed improvement so here's the preliminary sketches.Edit: Prelim logos removed. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Cleveland Steamers?! Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Here is a reference you may find useful: That is an awesome beer logo. I love that style. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 EDIT: deleted to save space. See below. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Is this design an improvement? Still basic. But any tips on how to make it better is appreciated. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMan Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I'd reconsider losing the force lines that help give the impression of a forceful blast. This version is less likely to read as steam than as fluffy clouds (especially since you are using sky blue), or that the steam is leaking out rather than generating an earpiercing whistle. Refer back to the beer logo and notice how the steam cloud actually takes a backseat to the lines and you'll see what I'm talking about.Another easy "improvement" would be to vary the line thickness some. If you aren't familiar with how to vary the actual lines thickness with various filters, you can just draw a black shape behind them to create the effect and "hide" that shape behind the rest of the art.Lastly, I would think about adding a stem of some sort. It is clear that the beer logo features a whistle b/c of the valve with pullstring. Your design lacks that context and could be confused with a capsule of some sort. The blue lines would look less like stripes on a metal cylinder if you made them a little more narrow than the gray area. It would seem more like they are holes/empty space that allows steam to escape that way. Do you need two of them? Most of the pictures that came up when I did a quick Google Images search had only one opening, and they all had handles. Good luck and keep at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerBadger Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 That doesn't really look like a steam whistle to me. I'd de-slant it and just depict it from straight to the side instead of at an angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 Here's another attempt. I tried drawing a steam tractor for a logo but couldn't quite get the look I was hoping for. (I still might try to make one for the team.) Coming back to the steam whistle, I took a slightly different approach. It still slanted, but the steam is gone, a stem is added and a lever is present. Hopefully this will make it more "whistle-like." This is just a preliminary sketch done in my notebook. I submit it to comments and suggestions for further improvement. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltravisjr Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Hey, that sketch is looking a lot nicer. If I can add, it would add realism to make the mouth look a little more 3d. Something like this:Can't wait to see how this is developed.LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanic Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 Thanks for the suggestion, ltravisjr. I gave it a whirl and am happy with the result. I took it a bit farther adding the "inside" from the top of the mouth too. I'm not entrirely sure on a color scheme. Is what I had a winner? Or would you go in a different direction? I would like to stay away from a monochrome palatte. Here's slightly more "developed" sample. "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."I tweet & tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltravisjr Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Looking mighty fine. For colors I imagine something like navy with dark silver (gray) and bronze, but that's just me. Its your vision; you might see it differently. One hint when you start coloring: see if you can use dark and light fills (shadows/highlights) to show where different surfaces meet, rather than rely just on your outlines to it. One thing I just have to throw in: the thing looks "alive" somehow. It is almost like it wants some eyes above that mouth. I doubt you want to go in that direction (cartoons), and you certainly don't need to, but that's just something I saw. Anyway, this is a great starting point - I wouldn't change a thing with what you have so far now.LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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