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  1. Ok, because I wasn't clear in my response: Silent Wind of Doom, in response to my assertion that the Marlins should adopt a color like the Eagles' midnight green as their "dark" color instead of black, said "So rather than a divisional rival, you'd prefer them to look more like the traditional look of the Tampa Bay Rays?" I responded that the Rays haven't worn green in over a decade, have had all of their success in navy/powder/yellow, and that the accent colors I wanted were markedly different from the Rays' old ones (orange, yellow, and light blue vs. black, royal blue, and silver). Always specify your antecedents, kids. Like this I'd say the pendulum has shifted the other way. Look through this thread at all of the people who want the Rays to go powder-first and the many people who've given up on wanted the Rays to return to dark green (not teal, look at Colorwerx's RGB numbers - it's the same shade of green the A's use). Besides, forest green/powder blue/yellow is worlds away from forest green/black/dark royal blue/silver. Also, good ribbing on me. I totally chose a bad reference photo to describe my desired color scheme.
  2. I'm referring to the colors outside of the green base.
  3. It's been a decade since they wore green, and they've had all of their success in navy/powder/yellow. I would say that the "Devil Rays" look has long since been buried. Besides, orange/yellow/light blue are vastly different from black, royal, and silver.
  4. My problem with making the blue the primary color is that light blue/orange, no matter how unique the shades are, brings them too close to the division rival Mets. While both team's aesthetics are markedly different (Art Deco imitation vs. love child of the Giants and Dodgers), the color similarity is too much for me to overlook. I'd rather they do with a blue that's more on the teal side, or dump black entirely and base their set around a deep, greenish teal. Think this, but with orange as a secondary color and yellow/powder blue accents: It's a bad color for the Eagles, but it's an excellent "dark" color for the Marlins.
  5. I'll be moving right into the AL West after I finish up the East. Now, for those looking for a distraction from the NHL reveal thread, here are the Yankees! NEW YORK YANKEES, PT. I - Flashing back and simplifying the brand After you've tuned out 97.8 Liberty Rock Radio, it's fair time to acknowledge that the Yankees' brand is even more all over the place than the Tigers'. They not only have a primary logo that has far more red than any other part of their identity, they have three variants of the Tiffany-designed "NY" logo, one for the cap, one for the jersey, and one for print usage (they had four at one point, with a separate batting helmet logo). Like with my Tigers concept, I wanted to create a logo that balanced the features of all of the logos. It had to combine the boldness of the jersey logo, the simplicity of the cap logo, and the "panache" of the print/batting helmet logo (I've long felt that the cap logo is too "sterile," as it's missing the visible serifs). So, with some help from @kroywen (thank you, BTW), I made a merged logo: Now this is a logo that can work on both a jersey and a cap/batting helmet without much issue. It also kind of looks like the 1950's/60's cap logo, which fits with the general aesthetic of the concept. With the primary logo, I replaced much of the red with navy (no more royal blue) and added grey to the hat's underside. The tertiary logo is a combination of the pinstripes, the frieze pattern from the 2008 All-Star Game logo, and a banner declaring a 1903 establishment date (which fits with John Thorn's rulings). I wanted a logo with pinstripes and the frieze, as I've always liked those touches. The batterman features red, as I like that little punch of color. The uniforms are nothing too different from what they wear now. The new "NY" appears on the home uniform's chest and on the caps/batting helmets. In a move that may be unpopular, I removed the white outlines and cuffs from the road uniform. I've never been too keen on them, as I vastly prefer the 1920's-1972 road uniforms. I didn't add faux-flannel, as the Yankees shouldn't be a team that has a "gimmick" as part of their primary uniforms. I gave the uniforms a single pants stripe and small cuffs, to preserve some of the 1973-present uniform's flair (and consistency, unlike the current set). The font is a modified version of block standard, as I've never liked Wilson's Varisty Font for the Yankees (it's too bulky). As for the alternates, I wanted to keep them as Yankee-like as possible. The home alternate is a 1939 World Series champions throwback, to be worn on Old Timer's Day (a perfect occasion for throwbacks). People will barely be able to tell the difference from the current set, aside from the Baseball Centennial patch, set-in sleeves, McAuliffe number font (Red Sox font, which the Yankees wore for a long time, thanks @Gehrig27), and the tertiary logo on the sleeve (to hammer in the franchise's age/legacy). The road alternate would be worn maybe once a season, as a throwback to the 1927 road uniforms. While I tried to be as accurate to the original as possible (eight-panel caps, grey-bottomed stirrups/faux-stirrups, and logos), I added numbers for scorekeepers'/buyers' sake. While it may not be "radical," this concept does manage to simplify the Yankees' iconic "NY" logo and color scheme, restore some of the charm of the 1950's-60's uniforms, and introduce alternates in a way that is inoffensive and near-unnoticeable. C+C is greatly appreciated, as always! Up next, the Yankees get back to the dugout with an underused color! P.S. The #19 on the model is for my favorite Yankee, Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. The alternates use their source years as modeling numbers.
  6. I want to buy that Stinger alternate, I kid you not. I also like the striping motif of the home/road uniforms, which fit well with the military badge aesthetic. Fantastic work! You've been on a roll with these concepts. Bruins: I've always wanted to see a set built around the Winter Classic uniform, and you've satisfied my curiosity. Islanders: You've salvaged the Fisherman uniforms beautifully, and I'm happy to see your anchor logo come back. Rangers: Aside from putting the shield on both sides of the home uniform's shoulders, I like what you've done here. The minimalist take on the Lady Liberty alt is especially good. Jets: The arrows and powder blue base are excellent changes, which really benefit the logos and making the team distinct from the other navy teams/the original Jets. Maple Leafs: I'd add a blue yoke to the white sweater, but other than that, it's some good work (I love the St. Pat's-esque look)! Canucks: It's good to see ol' Johnny get his due as a crest! The return of the "VC" is also fantastic (it should maybe replace the Stick-in-Rink on the shoulders of the home/road sweaters). Sharks: You've made fine use of the inaugural template and the new logos. I'm not totally sure about pairing a teal helmet with the home sweater, but that's just personal preference. Lightning: I think you've found a perfect way to balance the team's aesthetic history with a solid, modern look. I agree that the alt should have lower sleeves, but that's a minor complaint. Hurricanes: The new crest is wonderful, and the return of the hurricane flag stripes is a welcome sight. Blackhawks: I like your helmet logo, and the return of the five-stripe pattern to the home sweater's sleeves. Nice one. Flyers: You've done well to split the difference between the current and Lindros-era looks. The alternate is probably the best "modern" look the Flyers could have (although the inverted logo will take some getting used to, for me). Well done. Sabres: I like this optimization of the goat head, even if I'm not a big fan of that set (aside from the red alternate's crest, which was beautiful). Kings: The redone home plate logo is solid, as is the simplified crown and grey alternate. I'm not keen on keeping the sleeve/shoulder piping, but that's neither here nor there. Good work. Canadiens: This is a fantastic optimization of the Winter Classic look! Blues: It's a good balance of the current logo with the classic color scheme. The alternate makes fantastic use out of the notation pattern, with just the right amount of royal blue and white. Oilers: Your new crest and color balance are fantastic, and you've made a hater of the navy/copper/red set a fan with that alternate! Devils: The home looks better than the road. I'd suggest some white space in between the red and black on the striping. Red Wings: The new striping works well with the team's retro aesthetic. All in all, you've put together a fantastic series!
  7. ...and now, the thrilling sequel! DETROIT TIGERS, PT. II - A bit of Bengal-ization It's no secret that the Tigers tried to mix up their look a little bit in the 1990's. They introduced the Tiger walking through the "D" logo in 1994, a blue softball top in 1995, the walking Tiger cap from 1995-97, and their late adoption of racing stripes in 1994. What if they took these experiments several steps further, with Cincinnati Bengals-esque striping, more orange, and tiger stripes all around? Well, here you go! I put sublimated stripes on the updated Old English D and scripts, along with orange outlines (for orange incorporation - for those wanting to see my take on it). It's a subtle way to bring the stripe motifs into the logo. The uniforms now feature sleeve cuffs and Northwestern-style sock stripes with tiger striping, along with placket trim (thick cuff + placket trim isn't unprecedented). The numbers also receive the subtle sublimated tiger stripes, while the NOB's/front numbers are un-striped (for legibility from a distance). The home uniform has orange trim, for "orange incorporation." The tiger head makes for an excellent patch, so it appears on both uniforms. The alternates follow the same conventions as the home and road uniforms, with the "walking tiger" logo on an orange-billed cap. While I could have gone more "out there" with the Tigers, such modifications brought it a bit too close to "flavortown" for my liking. This is a restrained approach to an "out there" look, which is appropriate for the Tigers. C+C is greatly appreciated, as always. Up next, the Yankees!
  8. That's a uniform oddity right there, the home batting helmet paired with the road uniform. Also, here's Willie McGee in a doubly wrong Cardinals uniform (from his 1996-99 stint with the team). Not only is he wearing the their button-front/belted pants grey set with the navy road cap, he's also missing a front number (from the 1997-98 "no front number" period).
  9. I've got several friends from the Denver area, and I've kinda gained a neutral stance towards the Rockies. I want to see you guys or the Diamondbacks (so Paul Goldschmidt can get the MVP recognition he deserves) keep the Dodgers away from the NL West title. The return of Rocktober would be fantastic.
  10. Once again, thanks for the C+C! Onto the Tigers! DETROIT TIGERS, PT. I - One "D" to rule them all! It's common knowledge around these parts that the Detroit Tigers have two separate Old English "D" logos, one for the jersey and one for the cap. While I don't have a problem with it (both are perfectly suited for their applications), I can see why people don't like this redundant branding. Some have tried to rectify this by promoting the cap "D" (which is too dainty to work on a jersey) or the jersey "D" (which is too bulky to work on a cap). I decided to go for the fusion approach, combining elements from both logos (and past Old English "D" logos ) into a new logo that can work on all applications. The rest of the logo set shifts to account for the new logos. The "Tiger climbing through the D" logo returns, with adjustments to the "D" to match the new logo. I decided to keep the home uniform orange-free, as I like that quirk. The tiger patch appears on the road uniform (I happen to like it), and the script/numbers/NOB lose their unnecessary white outlines (like the 1952-57 road uniform and my previous concepts). The sock stripes on the road uniform use the pattern from my Rockies concept in the MLB Tweaks series, as I thought it fit with the tiger stripe aesthetic and the lack of white outlines on orange elements (white outlines messed with the "minimalism" of the look). The alternates are slightly conservative, as the Tigers aren't a team that should have colored jerseys. The home alternate, for super-rare (once a month) usage, is my take on @FinsUp1214's excellent Tigers alt (used with his permission). It has the underused "Tigers" script, the road cap/helmet, tiger patch, and sock stripes. The road alternate (worn against teams with throw/faux-backs of a similar vintage) is a fauxback to the 1934-46 road uniforms, with a faux-flannel pattern (inspired by @Bmac's pattern). I wanted to try faux-flannel out for a while, and this was an excellent opportunity! Think of these alts as bringing the road uniform's aesthetic home, while also taking the home uniform's style on the road. I tend to think of the Tigers' different "D" logos as more of a feature than a bug, but for those who want a consistent brand, this is the way to go (while preserving/restoring different parts of the team's identity)! C+C is appreciated. Up next, a more "out there" take on the team!
  11. You've done a good job here. The color scheme (thanks for the shout-out), the drop shadows, and the ermine coat pattern are all fantastic. If you wanted to add gold to a cap, maybe just slap a gold bill on the gold alternate's cap. Keep it up!
  12. I like the metanarrative that the Bucky Dent home run (which codified the 1978 collapse) killed the Red Sox's brief flirtation with red-crowned caps and pullovers/sansabelts. If you want to see what the current uniforms would look like with a red-crowned cap, here's the 1997 experiment that thankfully lasted only a year (with white hats, too): If the Red Sox have to have an alternate, I'd rather they go with a navy-centric grey throwback or the 1908 uniform: What? I'm a sucker for the laces and polo collars in baseball.
  13. Here's how to describe this year's Giants team, in one image: The burnt out husk of a Mazda RX-7 FD sums them up. It was meant to be a high-performance machine, but inefficient/insufficient parts, bad modifications, and innate design problems all lead it to go bust in spectacular fashion, taking down some good elements with it (the RX-7's styling, Buster Posey's amazing year). Even if the Giants' window is closed, three championships is an amazing takeaway from a title window. I can't really complain. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  14. Thanks for the C+C guys, I really appreciate it. Well, here's the next one! CLEVELAND INDIANS, PT. II - A Guardian Spirit What if the Indians decided that their name was too linked to Wahoo? What if the team decided to ditch all Native American imagery in favor of a new identity? Well, here's a potential new identity. I decided to not use any names from the club's past. "Blues" was too close to Blue Jays for my liking, and the name is already used by St. Louis' NHL team. I didn't like "Naps," and "Spiders" was too closely tied to the literal worst team in professional baseball's history. A new name would have to have a Cleveland-oriented theme to it. When looking at local architecture and other "new name" Indians concepts, I hit upon a basis for a new identity - the Guardians of Traffic on the Hope Memorial Bridge (an unknown artist and Christian Colbert were the Guardian concepts that inspired my redesign). These art deco sculptures, which reside about a half-mile away from Progressive Field, are Cleveland icons. Using them as the basis of an identity could work (a roller derby team already uses them). So, I decided to build the logos, striping, and fonts around the aesthetics of the statues. I picked maroon and orange to be the new colors. It's unused at the major-league level, and it looks fantastic on Virginia Tech. There's also the Cleveland connection, with the Cavaliers' maroon (wine) and the Browns' orange (a connection made by another poster, but I can't find the post). I added in the Minnesota Wild's wheat color for the statue's face, as both maroon and orange faces looked strange. The primary logo is a rendering of the statue from right side of the top picture of Paul Duda's gallery. I based the style of the portrait around both the Ottawa Senator's updated 2D logo and the Boston/Milwaukee Braves' 1945-55 Native American portrait. The font is a modified version of Marthas, the same font I used in my Pilots concept, as I thought it worked with the statues' lines and composition. The tertiary logo incorporates the shading pattern from the top of the statues (recreated in this poster), and references 1901 as a founding date (new name, same old club). The uniform stripes (on the sleeves, pants, and socks) incorporate the center pattern of the statues. It gives the team a bit more of a modern twist to their design. The number font is the Tampa Bay Lightning's current font, as I felt that a modern block font (with angled edges) was a more "grounded" look than a display font. The Guardian logo is on the sleeves, serving the same function as Wahoo does now. The number on the uniforms is #32, for Hope Memorial Bridge's opening date of 1932. The alternates are also pretty standard. The Guardian moves to the hat on the home/road alternate, mimicking the current Wahoo home cap. The Sunday alternate is a classic-cut vest fauxback-ing to the 1965-69 uniforms that I love so much. These don't have the art deco stripes (aside from the socks), as vests don't need big stripes. While I doubt the "Indians" name will go away, I hope that my concept illustrates a good path for the Indians to take their brand if they wanted to go local and gain a unique color scheme. C+C is greatly appreciated, as always! Up next, the Detroit Tigers!
  15. I think you've hit into a winner here! Well done.
  16. That's much better! I also like the new purple and the sans-serif font on the "Tequilla Sunrise" alternate (anything is better than the bold variations of Kabel). However, I still have a few issues. First off, I'd credit Matt Malinoski for his work in updating the wordmarks. Second, I'd try to modify the primary logo and the H-star to get rid of any traces of the slab-serif font. The redesign would definitely feel more "complete" that way. Keep it up!
  17. I'm pretty sure the only reason the Orioles started wearing it was to declare themselves as "Maryland's team" and ward off their Maryland fans jumping ship to the Nationals. Heck, the year the flag patch debuted (2009), was the same year that the team brought back the "Baltimore" script on their road grays. Peter Angelos was always the most vocal opponent to the return of baseball to Washington, D.C. After realizing he couldn't keep a team away, the Orioles' marketing strategy shifted towards a Maryland/Baltimore-oriented approach to their identity.
  18. I love what you've done with your tweaks for the Tigers (outlines do help it out), and I'm a little blown away by your Astros concept. The purple (especially the blue-heavy shade you chose) and the side panels all look fantastic. I would suggest that you use the fourth option for your primary logo as a way to subtly incorporate the Tequila Sunrise pattern into the logo. A little goes a long way. My one gripe with the concept, which is a gripe I have with the Astros' current set, is the font. Slab-serif fonts don't jive well with the "space age" aesthetic. I'd suggest going for something along the lines of the original shooting star set (as updated by Matt Malinoski): ,,,or this overlooked concept made by @the admiral: A space age-styled font would really put this concept over the top. Also, if you're having trouble blending shades, I have a tool for you: Meyerweb's color blender! I've used it on concepts before, and I really like it. I hope this helps, and keep up the good work!
  19. So, Sharks with lighter teal, maybe? Even if the template doesn't change, a lighter teal will definitely be welcome. Maybe the team is slowly taking their brand in a renewed direction? I doubt it, but it's a good sign for the brand identity and the organizational culture.
  20. I get why people liked the SiR. It's part of an age when the aesthetic conventions of sports design leaned towards depicting equipment over nicknames, and worked with simple curves and color distributions. What I don't get is why people like the skate. The thing barely looks like a skate, is a messy blob from any considerable distance, and bears a strong resemblance to a 15 year-old's attempt to recreate the cover of Judas Priest's 1982 album Screaming for Vengeance (an album that came out after the redesign, but I think my point stands). Yeah, it's associated with two Stanley Cup runs, but it's so ugly. At least the bland SiR wasn't ugly.
  21. I'd rather the team wear the boring as all bleep "Stick-in-Rink" and the Orca than the Millionaires' V. Sure, it's associated with a pre-"NHL only" Stanley Cup, but it sacrifices anything related to the "Canucks" identity in favor of paying tribute to a team that hasn't existed for nearly a century. At least the Sens' barberpole was kept alive by junior teams, while the Millionaires got condemned to the dustbin of history. Part of me wishes that the team used the Skatin' Johnny from day one (with abstract and aggressive versions for the 1970's and 1990's redesigns, respectively), or that Orca Bay got their wish and went through with the name change. At least then, we'd have a better answer to their identity crisis.
  22. I'd love to see what our Rite of Spring threads would have looked like in the 1980's and 1990's. Who would SabresRule be pissed about? What funny things would Admiral say? Along what lines would we argue about fanbases and player movement?
  23. Thanks for the C+C guys! If you want to see the genesis of the Carolina Pilots, here you go! My first idea for the team was to name them the Carolina Aviators. I ran through several editions, including ones with a black/light blue/yellow color scheme, brown/light blue/Carolina Blue colorways, and a cursive script font (Fenway Park JF, a font that I've used with modifications in the past). The plane that would later become the Seattle Pilots' plane made its debut here, before some reworking/simplification. The whole process involves a lot of tinkering over time, playing with little ideas as they come to me and tweaking them to a presentable point. Now, the main attraction, and one of the most thoroughly-researched concepts I've made! CLEVELAND INDIANS, PT. I - Spokane-ifying the identity It's not surprising that the Cleveland baseball club has been having troubles with their branding for some time. While the organization has tried to stress the "block C" (which has been with the team since their days as the Cleveland Blues) over Chief "Little Red Sambo" Wahoo (it's racist, get over it), they seem hesitant to rip the band-aid off completely. Part of that would be the brand equity behind Wahoo, and the other part is that the "block C" is so bland. Some people want them to bring back the "caveman C" (an overpraised piece of 1970's kitsch that exhibits traits of "primitive cultures" lettering - which brings up troubling implications while looking terrible), while others want to adopt the "block C with feathers" route. The "block C with feathers" is my preferred course, but I decided to build upon it. One of the best examples of a Native American-themed identity in sports is the Spokane Indians of the Northwest League. They worked with the local Salish tribes to refine their logos, promote Native American causes and culture throughout the stadium, and even wear Salish language jerseys. I wanted to see what it would look like if the Cleveland Indians did the same (something @Lights Out hinted at in his series). While I initially wanted to pay tribute to tribes from Ohio, I decided (with some help from posters like @hawk36 and @Gothamite) that the best route would be to link the team to the "Indian" who played for the team and became their apocryphal namesake, Louis Sockalexis of the Maine Penobscots. The article mentioned above claimed the Penobscots' tribal council opposing Wahoo, so I'm not sure how receptive they would be to the team working with them to "refine" the brand. However, assuming there was cooperation between the Penobscots and the team, this is how I think it would play out. There would also be cultural awareness events at the stadium, financial contributions to the Penobscot Nation and other Native American groups, and other practices. The color scheme is still navy/red. They have worn navy since 1901 (going by the name "Blues" from 1901- and red since 1933, and changing the color scheme wholesale would alienate even more fans than deleting Wahoo. Instead, I got creative and shifted the color scheme to a red-dominant one (the other red-dominant teams in my AL are the Angels and Diamondbacks - you'll see) with powder blue as an accent color (an idea I floated in @Victormrey's excellent thread, along with the Penobscot seal link). That way, they can be separate from the other navy/red teams without sacrificing their color scheme. The red-dominant look also has precedence in their history, with the 1965-69 vest set, the 1994-2001 home uniforms, and the current home uniforms. The new "block C with feathers" uses a more abstract feather (inspired by a @raysox concept), which emerges from the insignia's outline. The secondary logo takes cues from the Penobscot seal, with the double curve motive (based on a plate from this book of Algonkian art) and the sun pattern.1 The logo features the Abenaki (the Penobscot's language family) word for Indians, "Alnōbak" (as sourced from Joseph Laurent's book and J. Dyneley Prince's article) - presented to the best of my interpretation.2 I used the TribeType font for the logo and wordmark text. As for the uniforms, they draw inspiration from several eras. The scripts are modernizations of the ones found on the 1946-49 (the tail) and the 1951-57 (the lettering) home uniforms. The update is similar to what the current home (and former road) script do, without the "uncanny valley" effect of the thick lettering and "perfect" alignment. I used Nike's Beaverton Script font as a base, with some drastic modifications (i.e. the connecting parts of the letters, the twist in the "C" - like Raysox's concept, and the bends in the letter tops) and the addition of tails. I added feathers to the scripts, to tie them in with the cap and sleeve logos. The red caps/undershirts/belts/socks are off of the 1965-69 vest set. The jersey, pants, and sock stripes all incorporate the new light blue color (with white highlighting it on gray and red backgrounds). The asymmetry on the jersey and pants stripes comes from the 1994-2001 set. I kept the block standard numbers/NOB's (without obsolete nameplates) because I like them and fewer teams use block standard in my series. There are ten double-curves on the uniforms, counting the ones in the logo and the one in the center of each sleeve's striping. The motif stands for the ten players on the team (including pitcher and DH) united together, while also not divorcing the double-curve from its cultural context. Per "The primary significance of the double-curve and scroll figures among the Penobscot was a sort of political symbolism. The double curves represented the bonds uniting the different members of the chief's family, the subdivisions of the tribe, or the officers of the council."3 This way, the symbolism doesn't come across as cultural appropriation (I use that term in its proper context, and not as a catch-all phrase - let's let this funny video sum up what I mean). The alternates also follow through with the design choices of the home/road set. The colored top is now red, paired with navy undershirts/belts/socks and a navy cap with a red bill. The navy accessories help to balance out the red jersey and tie the set to the team's long history of navy-crowned/red-billed caps and navy accessories. The second alternate is a script swap of the home uniform, featuring an "Alnōbak" script and the emblem of the Penobscot Nation (sourced from this website).4 While I don't like using flags on sports uniforms, I felt it fit in with the alternate's goal of promoting Penobscot cultural preservation efforts.5 The second set of alternates include a throwback for July 5, in honor of Larry Doby breaking the color barrier in the American League. A new patch graces this recreation of the 1947 home uniform, replacing the crummy proto-Wahoo of the original uniform (Larry Doby wasn't keen on Wahoo, according to apocryphal sources). The other alternate is a "clash kit" of sorts, for wearing against teams with red caps/undershirts/belts/socks. It's also my "lip service" to the navy-centric 1994-2001 road uniforms. While I doubt the Cleveland Indians will follow in Spokane's example, I do think this concept is a reasonable path for the team to follow should they communicate with the Penobscot Nation. They can have an identity that both honors Louis Sockalexis and the Penobscots while keeping connections to their historical branding and separating themselves from the other navy/red teams. Thank you for sticking with this long post, what with all of the links and citations. C+C is greatly appreciated, as always. Up next, a new identity for the Cleveland baseball club and it's "Guardian" spirits! Note: The numbers used for uniform modeling are #14 for Larry Doby, and #18 for my favorite Cleveland Indian (and Giants broadcaster), the legendary Duane Kuiper! Footnotes 1Frank Gouldsmith Speck, The Double-Curve Motive in Northeastern Algonkian Art (Ottawa : Government printing office, 1914), 27. http://archive.org/details/doublecurvemotiv00speciala.; “Tribal Flag,” accessed June 12, 2017, http://www.penobscotculture.com/index.php/tribal-flag., 2Joseph Laurent, New Familiar Abenakis and English Dialogues: The First Ever Published on the Grammatical System (L. Brousseau, 1884), 54.; J. Dyneley Prince, “The Penobscot Language of Maine,” American Anthropologist 12, no. 2 (1910): 189-90. 3Speck, The Double-Curve Motive in Northeastern Algonkian Art, 4-5. http://archive.org/details/doublecurvemotiv00speciala. 4Richard Fitchen, “Who Took More Scalps, Native Americans or European Colonists?,” Richard Fitchen, February 12, 2015, http://www.richardfitchen.com/2015/02/12/who-took-more-scalps-native-americans-or-european-colonists/. 5“Historic Preservation,” accessed June 13, 2017, http://www.penobscotculture.com/index.php/historic-preservation.
  24. Well, every once in a while, Vegeta has to win. Even though you're technically on his side, you often don't want to root for him. Maybe I'm feeling alienated by the post-2015 Warriors, but it doesn't feel nearly as good as the 2015 title did. I'm still happy and all for the victory and the rest of the old cadre of fans, but I still can't overcome the lack of connection. Ah well, it's baseball full-time now. P.S. That .gif is from Team Four Star's Abridged series. Once again, go watch it if you haven't already. It's arguably the best English localization of Dragon Ball Z.
  25. Thanks for the C+C and kind words guys, I really appreciate it! The more I've thought about it, the more I'm leaning towards basing them in Charlotte (despite the amount of money that the city invested in the probably non-expandable stadium for the Charlotte Knights). Since Charlotte is too far inland to really work with the "Pilots" name or the aviation history, I'd still go with the "Carolina" name. What I meant by "centering and scaling" was that the logo without the wordmark was a bit on the wide side, which made it a bit awkward to use alongside other logos in the leagues. With a wordmark, the "bounding box" of the whole logo is a bit more square, which makes it easier to center and scale (which is why roundels and shield shapes are so popular). I hope that answers your question. Anyway, onto the alternate take on a defunct team! CAROLINA/SEATTLE PILOTS, PT. II - Seattle-izing the Pilots Like the previous defunct team (and some future ones), this resurrection will also steer the team in a new direction. Let us presume that by the time the team moved to the Kingdome in the mid-1970's, the success of the aviation-themed Supersonics, presence of the blue/green/silver Seahawks, and/or new ownership that didn't like the naval theme changed up the imagery to reflect aviation and the Cascadian color scheme (the Doug flag). The other explanation would be the team following the early-1990's trend of darkening blues, emphasizing the "trendy" teal and metallic colors, and focus groups negating the naval connection to the name "Pilots." This is also an excuse to post a video about the significance of the word "pilot" as it relates to suburban SUV's and dad jokes. Think of it as an attempt to apply the 1993/94 redesigns of the Mariners and Brewers to their ancestor team. The teal has been lightened to better contrast with navy, and metallic gold is now an accent color. The primary logo uses a combination of the Mariners' 30th anniversary patch and my Sonics concept, as well as a profile of a Boeing-Stearman Model 75 (a WWII-era aircraft). Wings return from the Carolina concept. The fonts are Badger Light and Badger Heavy, which come from a modification of Aachen Bold (1990's/neo-retro combination). The secondary/cap logo uses a propeller in the same way that the Mariners' insignia uses a compass rose. The tertiary logo is a Seattle-ified version of the Carolina team's secondary logo. The home and road uniforms use the template of my Carolina concept, as it worked with the colors. The number font is also the modified Astros' number font, as it fit with the slab-serif lettering. The alternates are similar to the Mariners' home and road alternates, with the navy one getting a teal-centric overhaul and the home set using the tertiary logo as a patch. The teal-billed cap can be paired with the home uniform as an alternate. The home throwback is my best approximation of the Pilots' home uniforms (because they had a lot of little variations - often overlooked in reproductions). There's no "100th anniversary" patch, as I presumed the cash-strapped team would have kept their flannels until at least 1971. I also corrected a mistake made with the Mariners' current retro set by making the base white, not cream (I'm also using the original shades, and not the recreated ones). I've always been bugged that we never got to see the Pilots get the "Cascadian" treatment or paired with an aviation (not naval) theme. Now, my curiosity can be satisfied! C+C is greatly appreciated, as always. Up next, the Cleveland Indians!