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  1. Look what I found on Phoenix Design Works' website! They made a full "Blue Jays" script for the Black Jays' identity, as well as a different "Toronto" wordmark and number font. Their work also includes a different Astrodome logo and an updated H-star.
  2. Joey Votto, with the wrong uniform (vest with block-style lettering), number, and hairstyle.
  3. I wish Colorado would revive the powder blue as a one-off. I know that it's associated with some of the worst Colorado football teams, but it's a good look that incorporates the school colors of gold and silver. A metallic gold on the jersey would be necessary, should it be revived.
  4. I like them too. Count me in as somebody who thinks the Panthers have some of the best uniforms in the NFL. However, they should drop the redundant white pants. Silver looked good with the white jerseys the one time they did it.
  5. The University of Virginia did it, and it looked good!
  6. This look would go from a nine to a solid ten if the players all wore their socks the correct way up (matching the sleeve stripes).
  7. Remember the 1956 Cardinals' plan to use their "StL" crest on the road uniforms? Well, now we have color pictures of some of the prototypes! Yeah, getting cold feet was a good idea.
  8. That line of logic is only brought out when we talk about Mighty Ducks nostalgia, when it also applies to so many other facets of branding and marketing. I'd also add that part of the Rays' problem is marketing. They totally bungled marketing themselves in 1998 and in the following years.
  9. From the latest edition of Game Worn Guide to MLB Jerseys by Bill Henderson, we now know that the Padres had an interesting navy/orange prototype:1 I'm a little disappointed that they didn't go with it. While the wordmark is still a bit crappy, the two-color format really helped it. 1William F. Henderson, “San Diego Padres,” in Game Worn Guide to MLB Jerseys: 1970-2017: Eighth Edition, 8th ed., ed. Rick Subrizio (Philadelphia, PA: Aardvark Publishing, 2017), 2191.
  10. It seems that you've ignored the key part of Raysox's post: I know that it may seem tough, but it would be good for us to show a little compassion towards Rays fans. They've spent almost a decade hearing the "they couldn't draw flies, even when they went to the World Series" and "you should lose your team" epithets. The former ignores that it was the first season that the team was worth a damn in the standings. They didn't have the same kind of entrenchement in the area that an older, historically more successful franchise would have (I might also cite poor marketing as a reason for this). The latter is just plain insulting. Put yourself in their shoes, and try to understand why they're sick of people from outside of the area telling them that the team they've poured their heart into should go away.
  11. Frank Robinson wearing the head of Mr. Red, and the pre-1956 uniforms (in 1956 Spring Training, I presume):
  12. Had the Astros changed their name to "Diesels," "Railmen," or "Colts" with their move to Minute Maid Park, I would have loved to see their identity form around these two uniforms: The brick-centric look could have been fantastic. Still, I'm glad they came to their senses and brought back navy/orange. Tangentially, this color scheme (if the Diamondbacks weren't using it) would be good for the Rangers.
  13. Don't forget the PQ's rise to power, Bill 101, and the failed Quebec Independence referendum as factors in the Expos' downfall. While there are many Francophone Expos fans, the decline in the Anglophone population did not help matters. Both the White Sox and Mariners nearly moved to Tampa Bay, until the White Sox got their stadium and Nintendo bought the Mariners. The Giants' then-owner, Bob Lurie, was in the process of selling the team to a Tampa Bay ownership group (led by Vince Naimoli, the first primary owner of the Rays) until San Francisco officials pressured the league into blocking the sale.
  14. One was plenty, two was just overexposure. Under good ownership, a team could thrive in Florida. However, both teams have had shoddy ownership. The Marlins have had to deal with off-field problems with their owners and the scams that Loria pulled to get their current stadium built. The Rays moved into a horrendous stadium in a less-than-ideal location with the Tampa Bay Area (St. Petersburg) which has hampered their ability to be competitive. If anything, have a team in either Miami or Tampa and use that other 1990's expansion slot on a D.C. team. That way, there may be a small chance of the Expos sticking around in Montreal.
  15. The Falcons got it right from 1966-70 (black bird, white bird, and stripes), and all of their uniforms since then have been downgrades. The current set is their best since the '67-'70 uniforms, if only because the helmet contrasts the jersey color.
  16. Yup. The current "Maple Wings" identity is the best that the team has looked, and even then it's only because they're not messy and don't use fonts of a "particular vintage" (i.e. Word 97-04 Brush Script). Speaking of blue, the Royals looked terrible in powder road uniforms: The lack of royal blue on the scripts really hurt it, along with the bulky stripes, lack of a cursive script "Kansas City" logo, and the absence of powder blue from the logos. The current home alternate is slightly better due to the minor tweaks of smaller stripes and incorporation of royal onto the scripts and numbers. No powder blue pants also makes the look easier on the eyes. The only teams that ever looked "good" in powder blue were the Blue Jays and Phillies, and even they looked better with gray road uniforms.
  17. They kind of did stick with it, in a way. It was the 1956 change that saw the debut of the all-navy cap with an outlined "StL" logo, and it was the first time the Cardinals used a cursive script on their uniforms (something they've done ever since).
  18. Here's a picture of him wearing the prototype road uniform.
  19. So, since Photobucket decided to get pissy with charging $400 per month for embedding images in websites, will the images be moved to a new hosting service (imgur, flickr, etc.)?
  20. The Cardinals should reinstate the navy road cap and belts, but only if they add a red bill to the hat. That would not only tie it in with the 1940-55 cap, but it would also add a nice dash of color in the same way the red hat does now. The all-navy hat is too drab, while the all red hat is too bright when paired with the road uniforms. This is the perfect "happy medium." Also, the red hat should always be the home cap. It's a nice cap that's been a symbol of the team's post-Musial identity (through their classic-styled sets and the pullover/sansabelt/powder blue zaniness).
  21. Yeah, that ignores the whole issue of the red "C" on the navy background clashing with the white letter. It doesn't look nearly as good as interlocking logos that are all the same color: Having the logo be one color with a single outline unifies the shape and makes it easier to project the team's desired color balance (Red first? Navy first? Are Red/Navy co-dominant? - the Twins sorta have had a problem with this). There's also my desire to bring back the "M" cap logo in a modernized form: It's still unique (a cursive "M" as a cap logo), it's more closely tied to the two World Series championships, and it's less of a pain to use on a navy or red background.
  22. While I like the idea behind the Twins' "TC" logo, the actual logo is not a well-designed mark. The "wishbone C" is overused (and should have been dropped in the 1987 redesign), the width difference between the "T" and "C" is a little distracting, and the red doesn't stand out enough from the navy background of the caps. I wish the team had touched it up during the 1987 redesign and tweaked it again during the move to Target Field. Basically, turn it into @the admiral's top-notch concept: The other thing that makes me despise the current "TC" logo is how defensive Twins fans get about it (look at the response to Admiral's redesign). They swear that it's "untouchable" and that it can't change because "it's been there from the start." Guys, if other teams can change up classic logos without sacrificing their "spirit" (i.e. Cardinals - football and baseball, Orioles, Blue Jays, Vikings, Bruins, Maple Leafs, Blues, and a whole host of college teams), then so can the Twins.
  23. That's a uniform oddity right there, the home batting helmet paired with the road uniform. Also, here's Willie McGee in a doubly wrong Cardinals uniform (from his 1996-99 stint with the team). Not only is he wearing the their button-front/belted pants grey set with the navy road cap, he's also missing a front number (from the 1997-98 "no front number" period).
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