Chromatic Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 hours ago, DeluxeGraphicSupply said: To keep the KC Sporting element/graphic or to not keep? Keep it, the shape of the crest actually works really well with the Arrowhead, and while MLS is still number 5 out of the big 4, it is a KC team. Plus otherwise you'd only have two teams to mashup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchOnaQUEST Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 11:22 AM, DeluxeGraphicSupply said: Wow, this is an awesome project!! I can see it requires a LOT of work, to say the least!! Big fan of the Tennessee combo!! Yeah, I'd say keep the KC Sporting crest. Can't wait for the L.A. Clippers.. it'd be great if you could use the old Los Angeles cursive (or thr 2010-2015 LA Clippers logo). 1 Quote http://www.facebook.com/BenchOnaQUEST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneranger158 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Super hype to see this, like someone else said there was a thread with similar logos before on here and I loved it. Not sure if the original post is still here but this google search has most of them. Actually just found an article that had the original post but I think the host files might be gone, they got shared in a lot of articles like this one. 1 Quote Parsons is my dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerfan21396 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Watermark, watermark, watermark, or create a complex render for your own sake. I can say with confidence that all of these will be sold on sweatshirts on Facebook Marketplace within a year, because this happened to me and plenty of designers that have made mashups. That being said, Wisconsin one looks pretty great, I would just swap out the 2001-19 Brewers barley for the current wheat as found in the Wheat Ball alt logo and put it in Packers colors for simplicity (green for Packers and Bucks, athletic gold/yellow for Packers and Brewers). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 I am a bit torn here on whether or not to include the Oakland A's. Given I added San Jose's team, to be consistent to the bay area theoretically I should. The design already seems well put together that I think adding more to it would just ruin it. Any advice? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 12:27 PM, packerfan21396 said: Watermark, watermark, watermark, or create a complex render for your own sake. I can say with confidence that all of these will be sold on sweatshirts on Facebook Marketplace within a year, because this happened to me and plenty of designers that have made mashups. That being said, Wisconsin one looks pretty great, I would just swap out the 2001-19 Brewers barley for the current wheat as found in the Wheat Ball alt logo and put it in Packers colors for simplicity (green for Packers and Bucks, athletic gold/yellow for Packers and Brewers). Thank you, I added a watermark to my latest post. I should do that for all, instead of just putting it off to the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, DeluxeGraphicSupply said: I am a bit torn here on whether or not to include the Oakland A's. Given I added San Jose's team, to be consistent to the bay area theoretically I should. The design already seems well put together that I think adding more to it would just ruin it. Any advice? Put the Warriors’ bridge inside the 49ers’ football/oval thing, then add the A’s “A” where the 49 is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said: Put the Warriors’ bridge inside the 49ers’ football/oval thing, then add the A’s “A” where the 49 is. The only drawback is the 49ers oval shape kind of ruins the design, they just aren't as strong a shape a circle - especially since the ovals aren't proportionately the same (the outer ovals get increasingly wider but not taller). That and I don't think it would be enough to cover the 49ers. I am also trying to avoid any references to team names. I felt the 49 is a significant part of California history so it was appropriate but '49ers', 'Athletics', 'Warriors', and 'Sharks' would not be consistent with the representation/focus on the city-metro area and instead make you focus more on a specific team. I hardly am willing to include the full name of the city as well because at that point it strays away even further from being a logo, its more of a vector art/illustration with too much going on (baseball logos are almost exclusively text/monograms/initials so it is hard to not add them at times when their team branding is very bare bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, DeluxeGraphicSupply said: The only drawback is the 49ers oval shape kind of ruins the design, they just aren't as strong a shape a circle - especially since the ovals aren't proportionately the same (the outer ovals get increasingly wider but not taller). That and I don't think it would be enough to cover the 49ers. I am also trying to avoid any references to team names. I felt the 49 is a significant part of California history so it was appropriate but '49ers', 'Athletics', 'Warriors', and 'Sharks' would not be consistent with the representation/focus on the city-metro area and instead make you focus more on a specific team. I hardly am willing to include the full name of the city as well because at that point it strays away even further from being a logo, its more of a vector art/illustration with too much going on (baseball logos are almost exclusively text/monograms/initials so it is hard to not add them at times when their team branding is very bare bones. I see. Maybe add this elephant logo on each side like the Seahawks one? Just spitballing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence of the Rams Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Maybe split the bay area into two different ones. Like have 9ers, Giants Warriors in one and A's Earthquakes and Sharks in the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 So I think what I will do is release 3 versions - one with the Giants, one with the A's and one with both teams. It will be "San Francisco - Bay Area", "Oakland - Bay Area" and just "Bay Area". All of them will contain the San Jose Sharks - and none will include the earthquakes - this is getting difficult enough haha. This way everyone is happy. I'm not too delighted about the Oakland version - I prefer either the SF or the combined versions. Which leads me to me question, which of the combined versions is preferred? I like the fact that the drape on it's back is covered on the double elephant version because I didn't want to include the "A" on it. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtgco Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Kansas City looks great, especially with the SKC stateline element. Only suggestion would be to lower the crown a little bit. I don't wanna know what kinda creature left that spiky clawed skull for Tennessee :S Maybe a version with yellow instead of red would be nice. For the Bay Area, I really like your A's only version, but I'm not feeling the mirrored SF at all. I'd honestly rather much rather see the ball from the Giants logo replace the red circle background to rep the Giants. Either way, though, I'd stick with the versions with only one elephant. Also, maybe the Oakland/Bay version could be in teal (Sharks / average of Warriors & A's), black, and gold? Sorry to ask for all these changes AFTER you've after done a bunch of edits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, vtgco said: Kansas City looks great, especially with the SKC stateline element. Only suggestion would be to lower the crown a little bit. I don't wanna know what kinda creature left that spiky clawed skull for Tennessee :S Maybe a version with yellow instead of red would be nice. For the Bay Area, I really like your A's only version, but I'm not feeling the mirrored SF at all. I'd honestly rather much rather see the ball from the Giants logo replace the red circle background to rep the Giants. Either way, though, I'd stick with the versions with only one elephant. Also, maybe the Oakland/Bay version could be in teal (Sharks / average of Warriors & A's), black, and gold? Sorry to ask for all these changes AFTER you've after done a bunch of edits... Thanks for the feedback! I think the Tennessee color swap would be good to see. and I can easily drop the crown on KC a bit lower. Yeah I'm honestly still undecided about the combo for bay area. I want to avoid doing the mirrored trick as much as possible and it does make it look more busy. That Giants logo is amazing, I love the texture on the ball - I don't remember if I mentioned this but I'm trying to also avoid the use of any balls or equipment as much as I can - I know the baseball bat is still there for the elephant but I can't do much about it. My whole goal is to not focus on one specific team or sport - it should be something brand new. I didn't have a choice for Indiana and for Tampa, I couldn't find a good way to replace the football. I may sound like I'm being a stickler about these things but I'm trying to be impartial and think about not putting one team's design/sport so much above the rest. A Teal version might be cool, definitely not for a main logo but I can have a secondary version just like how I've done with my Chicago logos (not posted). I chose the red and gold since the 49ers were the team that had the smallest representation and also the most unique color palette, although you can probably argue the teal is also unique. To have a variation in color palette from SF and Oakland might mean I take the colors of the respective teams that make those versions unique (Orange/Black for SF and Green/Yellow for Oak). I can explore those two for alternates as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtgco Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 12 hours ago, DeluxeGraphicSupply said: I don't remember if I mentioned this but I'm trying to also avoid the use of any balls or equipment as much as I can - I know the baseball bat is still there for the elephant but I can't do much about it. My whole goal is to not focus on one specific team or sport - it should be something brand new. I didn't have a choice for Indiana and for Tampa, I couldn't find a good way to replace the football. I may sound like I'm being a stickler about these things but I'm trying to be impartial and think about not putting one team's design/sport so much above the rest. Okay, well given those restrictions, and also your preference to avoid wordmarks, I'd probably separate the 4 & 9 of 49 and put them on the left and right sides of the circle, and then put the SF logo where the 49 was. If you're willing to bend that wordmark rule, you could use any of the Giants' fonts they use for the words "San Francisco" (and maybe "Bay Area" if you can access the full font!) to put outside the circle as a roundel, which would be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 14 hours ago, vtgco said: Okay, well given those restrictions, and also your preference to avoid wordmarks, I'd probably separate the 4 & 9 of 49 and put them on the left and right sides of the circle, and then put the SF logo where the 49 was. If you're willing to bend that wordmark rule, you could use any of the Giants' fonts they use for the words "San Francisco" (and maybe "Bay Area" if you can access the full font!) to put outside the circle as a roundel, which would be even better. I gave those a try but I didn't like how it looked at all, the 4 and 9 were way too dominant in the design and it just doesn't look right. the text roundel is inconsistent with the other designers I have, it also makes the rest of the logo seem way small so It did not work either! Thanks for your suggestions though. I think I'll close the book on this and keep the single elephant version for the combo. I'll likely revisit all of these logos later on for color variations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 Golden State Warriors x San Jose Sharks x Oakland Athletics x San Francisco 49ers x Giants 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 Detroit Pistons x Lions x Tigers x Redwings 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 It was brought to my attention that there was another Tennessee logo mashup almost identical to mine floating around the internet. There was no watermark and could not find a date. Even though all of these concepts are created without outside inspiration, there will inevitably be some overlap because there's only so many ways these can be pieced together. I decided to at least change the colors and as a bonus, I included an alt version with the Vancouver grizzlies roundel. I wasn't sure if that tribal-like design was specific to the Vancouver region so I decided to not make it the main logo. Does anyone have any info on the Vancouver Grizzlies logo origin/history? Memphis Grizzlies x Tennessee Titans x Nashville Predators 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchOnaQUEST Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Whoa, the alt version with the Vancouver grizzlies roundel looks fantastic!! Great job!! I honestly don't know if that tribal-like design is specific to the Vancouver region.... Let's hope the Vancouver fans would have more info on the Vancouver Grizzlies logo origin/history. P.S. Still can't wait for your L.A. Clippers concept.. It'd be great if you could use the old Los Angeles cursive (or the 2010-2015 LA Clippers logo). The current Clippers logo is a disgrace (and I say that as a Clipper fan). Quote http://www.facebook.com/BenchOnaQUEST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeGraphicSupply Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 5:50 PM, BenchOnaQUEST said: Whoa, the alt version with the Vancouver grizzlies roundel looks fantastic!! Great job!! I honestly don't know if that tribal-like design is specific to the Vancouver region.... Let's hope the Vancouver fans would have more info on the Vancouver Grizzlies logo origin/history. P.S. Still can't wait for your L.A. Clippers concept.. It'd be great if you could use the old Los Angeles cursive (or the 2010-2015 LA Clippers logo). The current Clippers logo is a disgrace (and I say that as a Clipper fan). Thanks a lot! I scoured everywhere through the internet and could not get a vector file for that design so I carefully retraced it and spaced out the symbols evenly and it turned out amazing! I've always been a fan of that old Grizzlies logo. I have two versions of the LA logo scheduled (I may attempt to also put them all together but I doubt it would look very cohesive) - I am not sure if this is the correct way to split the teams. I have thought about Clippers, Chargers, Angels and Ducks (Clips/Chargers have origins in San Diego and Angels/Ducks are from Anaheim). Then you got Lakers, Rams, Dodgers and Kings which don't really have any connections as far as I know except Magic Johnson is part owner of the Dodgers and the Lakers and Rams both have origins in the Midwest. Kings play in the Staples center along with the Lakers and although the Clippers do as well, they will be getting their own stadium soon. As far as the old Clippers cursive, I agree with you, that may have been the best branding the team has had in its history. After the Sterling situation, they scrambled to come up with a new identity and it has never really felt right. Well I may or may not end up using the wordmark as that's not something I typically add to the logos, I try to focus more on the icon/emblem but I can maybe throw it in there as an alt! Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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