McCall Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 If MLB did add teams in Las Vegas and Charlotte and they did go to eight four-team divisions, here's how I would align them.American LeagueEASTBalitmoreBostonNew YorkTorontoNORTHChicagoClevelandDetroitMinnesotaSOUTHColoradoKansas CityTampa BayTexasWESTLas VegasLos AngelesOaklandSeattleNational LeagueEASTNew YorkPhiladelphiaPittsburghWashingtonNORTHChicagoCincinnatiMilwaukeeSt. LouisSOUTHAtlantaCharlotteFloridaHoustonWESTArizonaLos AngelesSan DiegoSan Francisco Your AL South Divison covers 3 different time zones, which causes many tv scheduling problems as well as possible travel problems (I don't know really with that one it just sounded intellectual to say), not to mention the fact that it covers almost 3/4 of the entire United States from east to west......and possibly north to south. Good ideas here, just need a little better planning and execution. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonManningRocks Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I like these divisions. American LeagueWestLos Angeles Angels of AnaheimSeattle MarinersOakland AthleticsKansas City RoyalsCentralChicago White SoxMinnesota TwinsDetroit TigersCleveland IndiansEastToronto Blue JaysNew York YankeesBoston Red SoxBaltimore OriolesSouthTexas RangersHouston AstrosArizona DiamondbacksOklahoma Pioneers (expansion)National LeagueWestLos Angeles DodgersSan Francisco GiantsSan Diego PadresColorado RockiesCentralChicago CubsCincinnati RedsSt. Louis CardinalsMilwaukee BrewersEastPittsburgh PiratesPhiladelphia PhilliesNew York MetsWashington NationalsSouthAtlanta BravesFlorida MarlinsTampa Bay Devil RaysCarolina Blue Sox (expansion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 What the hey, I used to spend most of my time at other jobs, and at home for that matter, just coming up with realignment plans for MLB. I too think, based on team locations and just my curious imagination and not really on financial situations, that they should expand to 32 teams. My 2 choices in this one will be Portland and Las Vegas. I do have other concepts for other possible cities, too.National LeagueEastNY MetsPhiladelphiaPittsburghToronto (not too crazy about this switch really, but oh well, just a concept)South(east)AtlantaFloridaTampa Bay (assuming they stay there)WashingtonCentralSt. LouisChicago CubsCincinnatiMilwaukeeWestLA DodgersPortlandSan DiegoSan FranciscoAmerican LeagueEastBaltimoreBostonDetroitNY YankeesCentralChicago WSClevelandKansas CityMinnesotaSouth(west)[?]ArizonaColoradoHoustonTexasWestLas VegasLA Angels (of Anaheim, )OaklandSeattleNever really had Toronto switching leagues before but I think Montreal's moving kinda threw me off with this one. Oh well, I'll try and fix it or just post another one another time, I don't really care. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 EastNY MetsPhiladelphiaPittsburghToronto (not too crazy about this switch really, but oh well, just a concept) I like our odds --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblue586 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 There's no need for radical realignment of MLB. Seriously, who wants "East-West" conferences like the NBA and NHL, which don't have historic rivalries or significant regular seasons. I would just like to see the two leagues evened out at 15 and 15 with either Houston or Colorado moving over to the AL West. If the latter were to go, the Stros move into the NL West to replace them. This way, there are 6 5-team divisions. Sure, there would be an interleague game every day, but that's not a big deal. Additionally, you can drop the wild card in each league, have 3 teams make the playoffs with the top seed skipping the LDS. This way, the divisonal races are pure, and the best teams aren't immediately knocked out by a peaking team in a 5 game set. Every series should be 7. It just doesn;t make sense for a 162-game season to come down to 5. By the way, most of this is copied from Bob Costas' book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. no funny nickname Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 AL East.New YorkBaltimoreBostonWashingtonTampa BayAL CentralDetroitClevelandChicagoTorontoMinnesotaKansas CityAL WestOaklandTexasSeatleLos Angeles of AnaheimColoradoNL EastAtlantaPhilladelphiaFloridaNew YorkPittsburgNL CentralSt. LouisCincinattiChicagoHoustonMillwaukeeNL WestLos AngelesSan FransiscoSan DiegoArizonaThe reason for 16 & 14 is so 2 teams don't have 3-4 days in a row off. Didn't want to disrupt traditional rivalries so I only moved teams who haven't been in the league that long. The exception is Pittsburg but I wanted them in the same division as the Phillies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajmccall Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 you, sir, are a visionary. and a prophet. Store 1 Store 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 AL East.New YorkBaltimoreBostonWashingtonTampa Bay Peter Angelos would have a heart attack. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. no funny nickname Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 AL East.New YorkBaltimoreBostonWashingtonTampa Bay Peter Angelos would have a heart attack. Problem being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisart47 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 OK, if we insist on expansion to 32 teams.2 possible escenarios. First, 2 divisions with 8 teams each on each league:AL East:1.Baltimore2.Boston3.Cleveland4.Detroit5.New York Yankees6.Tampa Bay7.Toronto8.Washington Senators (back where they belong)AL West:1.Chicago Sox2.Kansas City3.Los Angeles of Anaheim4.Minnesota5.Oakland6.Portland (expansion)7.Seattle8.TexasNL East:1.Atlanta2.Chicago Cubs3.Florida4.Milwaukee5.New York Mets6.Philadelphia7.Pittsburgh8.Saint LouisNL West:1.Arizona2.Cincinnati3.Colorado4.Houston5.Las Vegas (expansion)6.Los Angeles of Hollywood7.San Diego8.San FranciscoThat way, we'll have similarities with the old-era of 8 teams per league.Another possible solution would be this:AL Classic:1.Baltimore (Browns)2.Boston3.Chicago Sox4.Cleveland5.Detroit6.New York7.Oakland (Philadelphia A's)8.Washington (Senators)AL Expansion:1.Kansas City2.Los Angeles of Anaheim3.Minnesota (I know they were the Senators)4.Portland (expansion)5.Seattle6.Tampa Bay7.Texas8.TorontoNL Classic:1.Atlanta (Boston/Milwaukee)2.Chicago Cubs3.Cincinnati4.Los Angeles (Brooklyn)5.Philadelphia6.Pittsburgh7.Saint Louis8.San Francisco (NY Giants)NL Expansion:1.Arizona2.Colorado3.Florida4.Houston5.Las Vegas (expansion)6.Milwaukee7.New York Mets8.San DiegoHow about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz615 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 with mock re-alignment plans i've seen so far i have a question,what is the reasoning of moving Colorado in the AL and not Ariziona?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisart47 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 And if we insist on 8 divisions:AL Classic East:1.Baltimore (Browns)2.Boston3. New York4. WashingtonAL Classic West:1.Chicago Sox2.Cleveland3.Detroit4.Oakland (Philadelphia A's)AL Expansion North:1.Minnesota2.Portland (expansion)3.Seattle4.TorontoAL Expansion South:1.Kansas City2.Los Angeles of Anaheim3.Tampa Bay4.TexasNL Classic East:1.Atlanta (Boston/Milwaukee)2.Philadelphia3.Pittsburgh4.Saint LouisNL Classic West:1.Chicago Cubs2.Cincinnati3.Los Angeles (Brooklyn)4.San Francisco (NY Giants)NL Expansion East:1.Florida2.Houston3.Milwaukee4.New York MetsNL Expansion West:1.Arizona2.Colorado3.Las Vegas (expansion)4.San DiegoSo, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 However you do it, the three-league solution is the only way to eliminate the wild card without going to ridiculous four-team divisions or going back to uncompetitive six- or eight-team divisions. Why would four-team divisions be "ridiculous"? I think it would help competative imbalace...after all, a team would have a 1/4 chance of winning the division, which, even with escalating salaries in big markets, are still pretty good odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisart47 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 4 team divisions are never going to happen, because there's no way to separate Boston from New York, and that way only one of those 2 would be in the playoffs.MLB-comissioner's dream would be to have Red Sox - Yankees as the ALCS and Cubs - Cardinals as the NLCS each and every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 with mock re-alignment plans i've seen so far i have a question,what is the reasoning of moving Colorado in the AL and not Ariziona?? reason being is that Arizona is already setting up classic rivalries with teams like San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego. Colorado is struggling in a division with these 4 teams and a fresh start in the American League would help them with the Fresh Start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Los Angeles of Anaheim That should be their official name... you get both cities in there, plus the nickname in spanish.Their home and road uniforms would simply say "Angeles" --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallWonk Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 However you do it, the three-league solution is the only way to eliminate the wild card without going to ridiculous four-team divisions or going back to uncompetitive six- or eight-team divisions. Why would four-team divisions be "ridiculous"? I think it would help competative imbalace...after all, a team would have a 1/4 chance of winning the division, which, even with escalating salaries in big markets, are still pretty good odds. One does tend to overstate one's case a bit online, but still, I do think four-team divisions would be a bad idea. It would just be silly to have so few teams competing for a pennant. All else being equal, there will be two teams above .500, two teams below, and the pennant will pretty much always be decided by early August. A fifth team throws a wrench in those works, making it more likely that one team will play the role of spoiler and keep the overall pennant race close into September. There are still runaway teams in the current five-team division structure, but that situation would be even more common if all divisions had only four teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 What the hey, I used to spend most of my time at other jobs, and at home for that matter, just coming up with realignment plans for MLB. I too think, based on team locations and just my curious imagination and not really on financial situations, that they should expand to 32 teams. My 2 choices in this one will be Portland and Las Vegas. I do have other concepts for other possible cities, too.National LeagueEastNY MetsPhiladelphiaPittsburghToronto (not too crazy about this switch really, but oh well, just a concept)South(east)AtlantaFloridaTampa Bay (assuming they stay there)WashingtonCentralSt. LouisChicago CubsCincinnatiMilwaukeeWestLA DodgersPortlandSan DiegoSan FranciscoAmerican LeagueEastBaltimoreBostonDetroitNY YankeesCentralChicago WSClevelandKansas CityMinnesotaSouth(west)[?]ArizonaColoradoHoustonTexasWestLas VegasLA Angels (of Anaheim, )OaklandSeattleNever really had Toronto switching leagues before but I think Montreal's moving kinda threw me off with this one. Oh well, I'll try and fix it or just post another one another time, I don't really care. How can you put Portland and Seattle in opposite leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Fools! Why would you consciously try to eliminate one of the things that has helped baseball pull itself back together after the strike?!? Take away the wild card and the second half is largely pointless. I don't want North, South, East and West divisions. I don't care how perfect it is. You're probably the same people who want names off of the uniforms so they look "so clean!" No. If you absolutely have to go to 32 teams, which is such a very very bad idea, then go 5-6-5 in the AL like the NL does. People like the wild card, and might also be upset at one of their division rivals moving out. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I would just like to see the two leagues evened out at 15 and 15 with either Houston or Colorado moving over to the AL West. There's no need for radical realignment of MLB.I see. This way, there are 6 5-team divisions. Sure, there would be an interleague game every day, but that's not a big deal. Actually, yes. It's a scheduling nightmare. NOBODY UNDERSTANDSAdditionally, you can drop the wild card in each league, have 3 teams make the playoffs with the top seed skipping the LDS.Yeah, we need more lame duck games in September. Good call.This way, the divisonal races are pure, and the best teams aren't immediately knocked out by a peaking team in a 5 game set. Every series should be 7. It just doesn;t make sense for a 162-game season to come down to 5.And somehow, 162-->7 is that much better than 5?By the way, most of this is copied from Bob Costas' book.I like Bob, but he's off on this one. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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