paynomind Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Amazing article. This is a CRAZY in depth article about how many Bonds would have hit without the cream and the clear.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/060512Very interesting.My opinion is that baseball will ignore the reports and evidence of cheating (circumstantial as they are) and put him second ballot in the HoF. A day that I will be sad upon. I am not a Barry fan. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Sounds amazing, but this IS from ESPN's comedy/satire website, so take it with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 616 is a fictional number based on a whole bunch of estimates, guesstimates, and "well, i thinks." 714 is a factual number based on (apparently) HGH, anabolic steroids, and other designer performance inhancing drugs. Guess you can't trust either huh?Patrick Hruby's last line was perfect though.Without steroids, Bonds was a damn good player. With steroids, he's a good player damned. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I have no doubt Barry would have reached 500 without roids and maybe 600 but never 700, he would be a Hall of Famer without roids, so he never really had to them except for his own ego. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Look, if Bonds took Roids...shame on him.BUT, baseball allowed this for so long. I get sick of all the Bonds bashing about possilbe steroids. They didn't test, so there is no way to figure out for sure how many HR's are effected.I'm not a Bonds fan, but I'm sick of people only trashing him. They should be trashing Selig and the MLB for allowing something like this to happen. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Oh I balme Selig allot for thsi he shoudl be fired . www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Look, if Bonds took Roids...shame on him.BUT, baseball allowed this for so long. I get sick of all the Bonds bashing about possilbe steroids. They didn't test, so there is no way to figure out for sure how many HR's are effected.I'm not a Bonds fan, but I'm sick of people only trashing him. They should be trashing Selig and the MLB for allowing something like this to happen. Yeah, I think these artilces, while interesting, are a complete waste of time because of exactly that. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 And, I believe that the jerk should be banned from the sport, his records erased, and he should be sued for actions that diminished the value of the sport in the amount of exactly every dime hes ever earned. Then someone should go to his house and kick his dog. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 And, I believe that the jerk should be banned from the sport, his records erased, and he should be sued for actions that diminished the value of the sport in the amount of exactly every dime hes ever earned. Then someone should go to his house and kick his dog. Now that's inhumane! [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyboy1 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Oh I balme Selig allot for thsi he shoudl be fired . Translation:Oh, I blame Selig a lot for this and he should be fired. Click here to read Third String Goalie - The Hockey Jersey of the Day Blog Click here to see my hockey and baseball jersey collection online ?You don?t like to see 20 kids punching 20 other kids. But it?s not a disgrace, It?s hockey.? - Michael Farber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaolinaJoe Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 And, I believe that the jerk should be banned from the sport, his records erased, and he should be sued for actions that diminished the value of the sport in the amount of exactly every dime hes ever earned. Then someone should go to his house and kick his dog. As long as you can identify ALL users, I could back this.Funny how estimates were 40-50% of players used them yet 99.999% of coverage is about .001% of the players. "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of thepress. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom ofspeech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given usthe freedom to demonstrate. And it is the soldier who salutes theflag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, andwho allows the protester to burn the flag."Marine Chaplain Dennis Edward O' Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0dotcom Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 And, I believe that the jerk should be banned from the sport, his records erased, and he should be sued for actions that diminished the value of the sport in the amount of exactly every dime hes ever earned. Then someone should go to his house and kick his dog. As long as you can identify ALL users, I could back this.Funny how estimates were 40-50% of players used them yet 99.999% of coverage is about .001% of the players. that one player also happens to have just passed one of the United States' greatest iconic heros, Bath Ruth in the catagory that baseball is best known for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Oh I balme Selig allot for thsi he shoudl be fired . Translation:Oh, I blame Selig a lot for this and he should be fired. Bah I do good enough for being dyslexic www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brinkeguthrie Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Look, if Bonds took Roids...shame on him.BUT, baseball allowed this for so long. I get sick of all the Bonds bashing about possilbe steroids. They didn't test, so there is no way to figure out for sure how many HR's are effected.I'm not a Bonds fan, but I'm sick of people only trashing him. They should be trashing Selig and the MLB for allowing something like this to happen. Yeah, I think these artilces, while interesting, are a complete waste of time because of exactly that. Pujols said a few days ago that steroids or not, they don't do anything for his hand-to-eye and hitting skill. That's a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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