and the Heisman goes to...

[FiddySicks]

But Hawaii games are played at 2 AM and nobody notices

Hawaii plays all day games due to Aloha having no lights. The latest itd be seen on the east coast is like 8pm.

[Squeaks4]

But Hawaii games are played at 2 AM and nobody notices

Hawaii plays all day games due to Aloha having no lights. The latest itd be seen on the east coast is like 8pm.

The Hawaii vs Oregon State game was at 12:00 AM EST

[TFoA]

But Hawaii games are played at 2 AM and nobody notices

Hawaii plays all day games due to Aloha having no lights. The latest itd be seen on the east coast is like 8pm.

That's Aloha Stadium.

That's Aloha Stadium with lights. So yeah, I could've sworn that I've seen more than a few games where I tuned in and it was a night game in Honolulu.

[NJTank]

But Hawaii games are played at 2 AM and nobody notices

Hawaii plays all day games due to Aloha having no lights. The latest itd be seen on the east coast is like 8pm.

The Hawaii vs Oregon State game was at 12:00 AM EST

But thats still too late to get noticed in the East, where many Heisman Voters live and where the Media Capiatl is.

[HatManTC]

Now wait. Jason White was not a mediocre NFL player.

but the award doesnt go to the player that will be the most famous player in the NFL. it goes to the most outstanding college player for that year. but you're right about the winners not amounting to a lot in the NFL though.

[See Red]

I said Troy Smith deserved it but that was a momentary lapse in judgement. Give it to Colt Brennan. They say he's in a gimmick offense so he doesn't deserve it but if it was easy to put up those type of numbers, every team would be. And Colt Brennan is often carrying a clipboard before the fourth quarter even begins, which makes it even more impressive. I dare say he's just as effective carrying the ball as Troy Smith is too. By the time his bowl game's over, we're talking 5,600+ total yards. Mind boggling. He better get some love if he returns next year.

[Squeaks4]

But Hawaii games are played at 2 AM and nobody notices

Hawaii plays all day games due to Aloha having no lights. The latest itd be seen on the east coast is like 8pm.

The Hawaii vs Oregon State game was at 12:00 AM EST

But thats still too late to get noticed in the East, where many Heisman Voters live and where the Media Capiatl is.

That wasn't directed at you Tank. I was pointing out that you were correct and that it wasn't true that the Rainbow Warriors only played in the day.

I think that factor has a little to do with why he wasn't considered for the Heisman but I think a bigger reason is the fact that he is in the WAC. The WAC will take time to become a conference where people really take notice and they get that respect.

[whitedawg22]

Now wait. Jason White was not a mediocre NFL player.

but the award doesnt go to the player that will be the most famous player in the NFL. it goes to the most outstanding college player for that year. but you're right about the winners not amounting to a lot in the NFL though.

No it doesn't. It goes to the QB or RB with the best stats on a team that has no more than one regular-season loss, which is sort of a pathetic devolution from what it was originally meant to be.

[Pat]

I said Troy Smith deserved it but that was a momentary lapse in judgement. Give it to Colt Brennan. They say he's in a gimmick offense so he doesn't deserve it but if it was easy to put up those type of numbers, every team would be. And Colt Brennan is often carrying a clipboard before the fourth quarter even begins, which makes it even more impressive. I dare say he's just as effective carrying the ball as Troy Smith is too. By the time his bowl game's over, we're talking 5,600+ total yards. Mind boggling. He better get some love if he returns next year.

Colt Brennan maybe deserved an invite to New York, but there is no doubt Troy Smith deserved this award. He led the #1 team undefeated, with incredible stats.

Colt plays in the WAC, on a team where even Timmy Chang was lighting the place up and setting records. Yes Brenna is impressive, but there is no way he deserved the Heisman.

[paynomind]

ANyone seen a final voting breakdown? I'd love to see how the votes were distributed.

[Squeaks4]

ANyone seen a final voting breakdown? I'd love to see how the votes were distributed.

Ask and you shall recieve.

(Troy Smith broke the record for first place votes, which was set last year by Reggie Bush, this year by the way)

[HatManTC]

5 INTs all year 100 or more passes between INTs is pretty dern good.

a 5 to 1 TD to INT ratio is pretty impressive.