Nhl attendence report

[CC97]

NHL Per Game averages in thousands of people (20.1 = ~20,100 per game)

This does not take into account for percentage of arena full (in other words, if an arena only has 15,000 seats and they sell out every game they'll still be low on the list)

This was posted to progress the winnipeg jets discussion, and so people know which teams are actually struggling putting fans into the seats.

Enjoy....

1. Montreal 20.1

1. Detroit 20.1

3. Toronto 19.3

4. Philadelphia 19.2

5. Vancouver 18.6

6. Minnesota 18.5

7. Dallas 18.4

7. St Louis 18.4

7. Edmonton 18.4

10. New York 18.1

11. Colorado 18.0

12. Los Angeles 17.8

13. Ottawa 17.5

14. Columbus 17.2

15. Tampa Bay 16.8

16. Calgary 16.1

17. San Jose 15.5

18. Florida 15.2

19. Phoenix 15.1

20. Buffalo 14.9

21. Anaheim 14.7

21. New Jersey 14.7

23. Washington 14.5

23. Boston 14.5

25. Atlanta 14.4

26. Chicago 13.9

27. Long Island 12.7

28. Nashville 12.3

29. Pittsburgh 12.0

30. Carolina 11.9

[NJTank]

Carolina is pathetic down there have they ever been above last place since moving from Hartford. It looks like the Raleigh expairament failed.

If there was any justice the Devils will be in the top 10 and the Rangers in the bottom 10. It just shows you how the cooperate deals help teams and pad attendance, whiel teams without the boxes struggle.

Nashville has a shot at teh playoffs maybe taht will help them. If not then they shoudl look north too, and Pittsburgh needs a new arean now!!!

[slapshot]

I'm not surprised Boston's low on the list. Jeremy Jacobs only care's about what's in the seats, not what's on the ice (although the Bruins have won 5 out of 6). The fans have had enough. You know attendance is bad when they change the color of the seats to minimize the appearance of a small showing.

It's too bad for Carolina. That apathy spreads down to Lowell, its AHL affiliate. Lowell is in the bottom 5 of attendance in the league. Lowell is lucky to break 3,000 per game (you'd never know from the box scores, but tickets sold and actual attendance are different). Just under 50% capacity on a regular basis. I don't know how much longer the league or Carolina will support this team with low attendance. If you go by % of capacity, Lowell is at least in the middle of the league...Worcester avgs 30% attendance, but that team's going on 10 years now.

[slapshot]

Carolina is pathetic down there have they ever been above last place since moving from Hartford.

Two years ago when they faced Detroit in the Stanley Cup. I believe they won the Southeast Division.

[CC97]

Carolina is pathetic down there have they ever been above last place since moving from Hartford.

Two years ago when they faced Detroit in the Stanley Cup. I believe they won the Southeast Division.

Yes they won the Southeast in 2001/02... i should know they got home-ice advantage over my Leafs because of it in the Conference finals  :angry:

[See Red]

yeah, alot of those are pathetic.  But I believe the Avalanche have the longest sellout streak at over 400 straight home games.

[CC97]

yeah, alot of those are pathetic.  But I believe the Avalanche have the longest sellout streak at over 400 straight home games.

I think i've read somewhere that the Leafs have had at least 95% capacity at every home game since the 1940s.  If it's true (and I would tend to believe it) that's pretty incredible.

[JQK]

The Devils are supported in NJ. I think if you only go by those numbers, your not getting the whole picture. Same with the Hawks.

[CC97]

The Devils are supported in NJ. I think if you only go by those numbers, your not getting the whole picture. Same with the Hawks.

And the Montreal Expos

[JQK]

You and your damn Expos..... The situations are not the same!!!

your a sneaky bastard...    ::

[NJTank]

The Expos hope is lost fans there have been screwed over so many time not even a new stadium will save them. They have twisted in the wind for too long, the stadium is never gonna get built.

[Phil]

Doesn't it shock anyone that two original sixers are in the bottom 7 of the league's attendance? And remember, this is the NHL's propaganda numbers... no indication of how many people actually show up...

[nitroseed]

Okay, I took Chris' data and cross referenced it against each team's max capacity... I've ordered them by percentage of capacity and it changes things a little. Here's what I've got (I think some of the original figures were off... Toronto and Vancouver both posted attendance numbers larger than their total capacity...)

Here's the key to reading this:

Percentage Rank. City [Raw Attendance Rank] - Attendance / Capacity (Percentage) ((Current Record))

EDIT: I've since added the current standings as of January 20, 2004 @ 2:24am Eastern at the suggestion of SyPhi (even though he was joking).

1. Toronto [3] - 19.3 / 18.8 (102.7%) ((24-12-8-3)) *SELLOUT*

2. Vancouver [5] - 18.6 / 18.4 (101.1%) ((25-13-7-2)) *SELLOUT*

3. Detroit [1] - 20.1 / 20.1 (100%) ((27-13-5-2)) *SELLOUT*

3. Colorado [11] - 18.0 / 18.0 (100%) ((25-11-7-2)) *SELLOUT*

5. Minnesota [6] - 18.5 / 18.6 (99.5%) ((16-17-14-0))

5. Dallas [7] - 18.4 / 18.5 (99.5%) ((20-19-8-0))

5. New York [10] - 18.1 / 18.2 (99.5%) ((18-16-7-4))

8. Edmonton [8] - 18.4 / 18.6 (98.9%) ((18-20-8-1))

9. Philadelphia [4] - 19.2 / 19.5 (98.5%) ((22-10-10-5))

10. Los Angeles [12] - 17.8 / 18.5 (96.2%) ((17-14-10-5))

11. St. Louis [9] - 18.4 / 19.3 (95.3%) ((24-13-6-1))

12. Ottawa [13] - 17.5 / 18.5 (94.6%) ((24-11-7-3))

13. Montreal [2] - 20.1 / 21.4 (93.9%) ((23-16-6-2))

14. Columbus [14] - 17.2 / 18.5 (93.0%) ((12-24-7-3))

15. San Jose [17] - 15.5 / 17.5 (88.6%) ((20-11-11-4))

16. Tampa Bay [15] - 16.8 / 19.5 (86.2%) ((21-16-6-1))

17. Anaheim [21] - 14.7 / 17.1 (86.0%) ((14-20-7-5))

18. Phoenix [19] - 15.1 / 18.0 (83.9%) ((16-14-13-2))

19. Boston [23] - 14.5 / 17.6 (82.4%) ((20-12-10-4))

20. Calgary [16] - 16.1 / 20.1 (80.1%) ((22-15-4-3))

21. Florida [18] - 15.2 / 19.5 (77.9%) ((15-19-10-2))

22. Long Island [27] - 12.7 / 16.3 (77.9%) ((21-19-4-1))

23. New Jersey [22] - 14.7 / 19.0 (77.4%) ((22-11-10-1))

24. Atlanta [25] - 14.4 / 18.8 (76.6%) ((20-21-4-2))

25. Buffalo [20] - 14.9 / 19.5 (76.4%) ((18-23-5-1))

26. Washington [24] - 14.5 / 19.7 (73.6%) ((14-26-5-2))

27. Nashville [28] - 12.3 / 17.5 (70.3%) ((22-16-6-2))

28. Pittsburgh [29] - 12.0 / 17.2 (69.8%) ((11-28-5-3))

29. Chicago [26] - 13.9 / 20.5 (67.8%) ((11-24-7-5))

And the basement dweller...

30. Carolina [30] - 11.9 / 21.0 (56.7%) ((15-20-9-2))

Given that the Hurricanes just got a new arena, and they can barely get it half full now, plus the fact that they're in the basement in terms of both attendance and percentage of capacity, it might be Carolina after all that contacted Winnipeg. It could still be Nashville, however, as they aren't much better.

Let me know if some of these figures are incorrect. Most of my capacity data was taken from www.seatdata.com.

[See Red]

But I think those stats are for home AND away games, correct?  Because I think The Pepsi Center (Avalanche) has a maximum capacity of 17,004 for hockey games.  All I know is I attended their 394th or so shutout when they lost to the Blues in the opening week of the season, or so.

[nitroseed]

PepsiCenter.com says the arena has a capacity of 18,004 for hockey:

Third paragraph, check it out.

SeatData.com actually says the count is 18,129. That might have been where I got 18.1 from, but since PepsiCenter.com says itself that it has 18,004, I changed it to 18.0, making the Avalanche a sellout average.

[NJTank]

Doesn't it shock anyone that two original sixers are in the bottom 7 of the league's attendance? And remember, this is the NHL's propaganda numbers... no indication of how many people actually show up...

The Bruins being down there is a shock, but The Blackhawks are a dreadful team, and a boring team, they seem like they cant hit the broadside of teh barn as they are held to 2 or less goals in almost every game.

[-kj]

Some teams that average high attendance will also sell "standing room" seats.

Disappointing that the Wild are no longer a guaranteed sellout, though they aren't really hurting for attendance either.

[Phil]

Come on Nitro... the least you could've done is include the teams' number of wins so we can see the correlation between good teams and good attendance. J/K, great stat compilation work. Does a former (Provincial Champion) high school basketball stat-manager's heart good.

[nitroseed]

Actually... that isn't a bad idea. Editing...

...and done! Took like 5 minutes. No problem!

[zer0dotcom]

Wow, this is like something you'd see in The Hockey News, nice work. It is intereseting to see the attendance when the capacity of the arena is factored in.

As a Canadian fan, and supporter of all the Canuck teams (yes, even da Leafs...) It's good to see that the Northern 6 have good attendance at least.

It's interesting ot look at the top 15. Exclude Dallas (5) LA(10) and San Jose (15), See a trend? All cities in the Northern area of NA.

It is disconcerting to see Chicago at # 29 considering they are  an Origonal Six. This will make specualtions over who may be calling Winnipeg much more interesting