DarkJourney Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 After all this mess I bet the Coyotes and Thrashers will just end up staying in Phoenix and Atlanta anyway. Financial problems be damned. Having them move will ruin Bettman's legacy in his own mind, whatever that's worth. He can't handle that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I still don't see what you guys see as far as salvaging Atlanta. If, logistically speaking, you can't get butts in the seats because the rink is downtown, the fans are in the exurbs, and an impenetrable asphalt jungle lies betwixt them, then pack up the show, you're done. Corporate support is all well and good but even CokeDepot's money is finite and the luxury box market is crowded with better options. It's not gonna work. Nobody can get to the games, and it doesn't seem like anyone's settling for watching them on TV, either.Sure, Atlanta is a bad market, but given the option between Atlanta, which was never given much of chance due to a clown college of ownership, and Phoenix, which has failed even worse and has a zero percent chance of working out, I would choose to move the Phoenix team. I would move the Panthers before the Thrashers, too. If the Coyotes move to Winnipeg and the Thrashers to Quebec City, so be it. But there is no rational explanation for losing Atlanta but refusing to let the dream die in Phoenix. Then again, Bettman never claimed to be rational.I actually agree that Atlanta has a significantly better chance of success versus Phoenix, but BOTH clubs have been treated to "a clown college of ownership" essentially their entire tenure in each city. And it's why both have failed to this point.In the case of Atlanta however, it seems that not every bridge has been burnt. As much as I once lobbied for Phoenix to be given a legitimate shot (something I don't believe they've ever had, because they've never had good ownership), at a certain points fans (or more accurately, potential fans) have too negative of a perception to the current franchise for it to build any significant momentum in a reasonable time, and Phoenix may be there.That's the argument for Phoenix over Atlanta. It's not that Phoenix has been treated to a better franchise and not done their part. Both cities have been treated to crap. JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 I still don't see what you guys see as far as salvaging Atlanta. If, logistically speaking, you can't get butts in the seats because the rink is downtown, the fans are in the exurbs, and an impenetrable asphalt jungle lies betwixt them, then pack up the show, you're done. Corporate support is all well and good but even CokeDepot's money is finite and the luxury box market is crowded with better options. It's not gonna work. Nobody can get to the games, and it doesn't seem like anyone's settling for watching them on TV, either.I don't think Atlanta would ever be awesome attendance wise, but I think you could maybe get it up to a survival attendance level with competent ownership. Sort of the league's niche outpost team.To STL...I thought Phoenix had decent ownership when it started out. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 So was this whole announcement thing a rumor/hoax or is it next Friday? | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Like I said earlier when I was reading the Winnipeg Sun they said next Friday (May 6th) nothing on TSN about today. Pro Hockey Talk says it's come down to Monday for the Coyotes. JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMW79 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 ...it's come down to Monday for the Coyotes.Whatever. I'll believe it when the puck drops in Winnipeg. (and no venom whatsoever directed at you NEW.ERA, just to be clear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no97 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Well, very interesting. Two bits here - there is someone looking into buying the Thrashers; and 2) someone else is looking at buying the rest, but not the Thrashers:http://twitter.com/#!/SportsMoneyBlog/status/64259931297153024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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