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Alright. So here we go. I wanted to do something that is new, something different.

I was looking at this stadium website, and I came across a page with temporary stadiums. They included stadiums for the Dodgers and Giants, before Dodgers Stadium, and Candlestick park were built. The teams there were the Los Angeles Angels, and San Francisco Seals of the Pacific Coast League. I researched the liked what I saw. Some cool identities could be made, so here is what I made. The PCL was a very strong AAA ball league. The 8 team league was a league of their own, pretty much. The farthest west the MLB was in 1957 was in St. Louis. So with the closest team being over 1,500 miles away, they did their own thing. The Sacramento Solons actually did not have an affiliate for 1957. When the Giants and Dodgers moved, that scattered some teams, to Places like Phoenix and Honolulu. Teams like the Padres and Angels got their name from the PCL teams.

But what if the league decided to break ties with the MLB, and be their own pro league. Sure, there are some aspects of this I really didn't think out COMPLETELY. But here is a basic rundown. I'm making sets for teams from 1957. The logo has a palm tree and a mountain, for the south, and north pacific coast. Also note my cool 1950s template based on Chevys of that time.

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The Mounties will be up later.

Vancouver Mounties

Seattle Rainiers

San Francisco Seals

Sacramento Solons

Hollywood Stars

Los Angeles Angels

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This is a totally awesome idea. Template looks really cool. You said you were making sets for teams from 1957. Then wouldn't it make sense to have a 50's-ish logo? Don't get me wrong, I love the logo you got there but it looks too modern for a league from the 50's.

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Like, the really good league broke apart in the 50s, when the MLB went west. The teams relocated, and they're in the current AAA league.

This league is if the league broke ties in 1957, and became a pro league. This is what the logos would look like now. I plan on using identities based on the ones from that year, but ultimately, they will get new logos.

I just wanted to do a cool template for a league from the 50s, to tie it together and give that effect.

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Like, the really good league broke apart in the 50s, when the MLB went west. The teams relocated, and they're in the current AAA league.

This league is if the league broke ties in 1957, and became a pro league. This is what the logos would look like now. I plan on using identities based on the ones from that year, but ultimately, they will get new logos.

I just wanted to do a cool template for a league from the 50s, to tie it together and give that effect.

1957-chevy-bel-air-chevrolet-archives.jpg

Okay, gotcha. I was just a little confused. A project with identities from the 50's would be really interesting as well!

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Like, the really good league broke apart in the 50s, when the MLB went west. The teams relocated, and they're in the current AAA league.

This league is if the league broke ties in 1957, and became a pro league. This is what the logos would look like now. I plan on using identities based on the ones from that year, but ultimately, they will get new logos.

I just wanted to do a cool template for a league from the 50s, to tie it together and give that effect.

Okay, gotcha. I was just a little confused. A project with identities from the 50's would be really interesting as well!

And pretty darn difficult, too. Haha. But I wouldn't object to seeing something like that, either.

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Vancouver Mounties

This team moved from Oakland(Oaks) to Vancouver for the 1957 season. The logo I had in mind first was the MV cap logo you see. That was what I was excited about the most. That logo is what I based the set off of. A simple look with a block font. The primary logo I'm indifferent about, and I'm open to suggestions. I used a simple block script, and made the middle letters smaller just to change it up. I used red a lot for the jerseys. The caps were ALMOST khaki. Just kidding, but that would've been cool. They're red, and as you can see red with black accents run throughout.

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I like it. It a real simple design, but i think it works in this instance.

I think that adding some space between the middle sloping point of the M and the V on the cap logo would make it look better, if that make sense.

Right now it kind of reminds me of the Wonder Woman logo.

For the primary, I'm not sure that you need the 1957. I've never been a fan of the sports logos having the year the team was founded on them.

I think that thickening the outline of the word "Mounties" would make it look more complete, rather you decide to keep the "1957" or not.

I'm looking forward to seeing more.

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The league logo is very nice. On the Mounties logo, if you thickened up the black outline on the word to be the same width as the black outline on the basepaths, it'd be perfect.

One more thing is that the black on the Mounties outline is darker than the black on the basepaths, which I am sure was accidental.

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Seattle Rainiers

One of the oldest teams in the league. Seattle had the Rainiers from 1919-1976. They almost played every year(not 1968-1972), partially due to the Seattle Pilots. The team was named after the nearby Mount Rainier. I wanted to include that in the logo. I changed the colors to a more pacific north west scheme, from the original navy and red. The color is a dark green, with the lime green and blue from the Sounders. I made an arched script, sort of a reference to the mountain. The Primary is the script with the mountain over it. The jerseys are simple, piping on sleeve jerseys. The number font matches the script. Instead of a grey jersey, I decided to take the green, and make it have a grey tint. So that is what that's all about.

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I love your enthusiasm, Raysox. The PCL has always intrigued me as well. In 1952 it was granted open status, essentially breaking the ties between its clubs and their major league counterparts. Had things worked out differently with the Dodgers and Giants, the PCL may very well have become a third major league.

What exactly are you going for with these identities? Are they supposed to be modern iterations of what those teams would be wearing if the PCL had become a third major league or had survived untouched by the NL and AL? If that's the case, your work is executed quite well. However, if you're trying to design uniforms that are period specific, then I think you've partly missed the mark. The uniform designs themselves work. They're piped appropriately. But the wordmarks and cap logos are far too modern. For period-appropriate inspiration, check out sites like Ebbets Field Flannels or do a search on Getty Images and check out what these teams actually wore during that time. I'm not saying copy what they actually wore, but use that as inspiration for more period-specific marks.

I guess what I'm saying is the scripts/logos you're using now seem more appropriate for identities designed now.

(I appreciate the color changes too. Those are quite welcome, considering most of the teams in the PCL were red, white and blue or some iteration thereof.)

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Oh, and I also just noticed you're not doing the Oakland Oaks. I realize they'd moved in 1957; but when I think PCL, they're one of about four teams I immediately think of off the top of my head. (The others being the Stars, Angels and Solons.) Maybe do them as a 'what-if' kind of thing?

Hell, it's your concept series. I'm just throwing ideas out there because I think this is an excellent idea for a series ^_^

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Thanks man. But what I'm doing is like, what they would look like now, if they were a major league. That's a good way to explain it. Obviously, I'm taking references from how the logos looked. Example, Here is the San Francisco Seals logo.

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And here is the logo I made, more modern. LEAKED.

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Like how the 1957 set was navy and white, but the team did use an orange color in a logo.

As far as the Oaks, I actually considered making them. I was going to do the 1957 sets, then maybe expansion teams like the Hawaii Islanders, too.

Does anyone have ideas for colors? I've decided on black/yellow for the Beavers, based on PortlandPCL2.GIF. The two teams I'm looking to change are the Hollywood Stars, and Padres.

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