artvandelay Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Associated PressCHAMPAIGN, Ill. -- Officials at University of Illinois say they've reached an agreement with a group of protesters that ends a 32-hour sit-in at the school's main administration building.The group of roughly 40 protesters are opposed to the school's Chief Illiniwek mascot and its associated Indian-head symbol. They began the sit-in yesterday morning. The school says it will arrange a meeting between members of the Multicultural Coalition Against the Chief and Illinois legislators. The meeting will likely be held in Springfield on April 27th.Coalition spokesman Lian Alan says the protesters reached a separate agreement over the telephone with university trustee Frances Carroll of Chicago. He says Carroll agreed today to call for a vote on the elimination of the mascot at the board's June meeting.Carroll could not be reached for comment. "...and you want to be my latex salesman." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Again I don't like how this is going down. If this goes through and the Illini have to change nickname and mascot, this will open Pandora's box. I understand why the Native Americans have problems with some teams (ex: Cleveland Indians and Redskins), but i don't see the problem with this one. My problem is where do you draw the line. Are Friars going to be upset about the Providence logo, same thing goes for the San Diego Padres "Swinging Friar". Those are "Religious", much like the Native Americans say these images are. There is a fine line between Political Correctness and Racism, i guess it depends which side you are on. I just hope this doesn't degrade itself down to the point in which we have the Kansas State Undomesticated Felines. God knows PETA probably has a problem with Animal mascot names. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I dont mind too much them changing... what I hate is the precidence this sets. "hey, we get a group of folks, and go sit in, we can get Univ Michigan to change their mascot to the Fighting Joels" NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiasco! Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I dont mind too much them changing... what I hate is the precidence this sets. "hey, we get a group of folks, and go sit in, we can get Univ Michigan to change their mascot to the Fighting Joels" that's the best idea yet!put this on their helmet: LinkedIn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winters in buffalo Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I dont mind too much them changing... what I hate is the precidence this sets. "hey, we get a group of folks, and go sit in, we can get Univ Michigan to change their mascot to the Fighting Joels" that's the best idea yet!put this on their helmet: I was expecting your response to be "I'm a lover, not a fighter".Man, that mugshot kills me... nothing says "fiasco" like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshawaggie Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Illinois has a fantastic logo, I dont understand how it is offensive. These arguments may drive to my grave one day. @josh_j12 CFA- Fargo Bobcats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiasco! Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Hail to the motherfluffing victors, baby!!!! LinkedIn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 when Miami of Ohio changed there name from redskins to redhawks, the miami indians, the actual indians were offended by the switch, they liked being honored in such a way and didn't find the name derogatory at all. the group that did it was a bunch of white housewives who decided that the name was offensive and outdated. The president who allowed it was run out of the town. In today's politically correct world nothing is right. It's not like they are the red illini or the crazy illini. They are named after a group of strong native americans. And another thing why did marquette have to change from warriors, a warrior could mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I must say, as an Irish-American youth, I have struggled my entire life through taunts from my schoolmates as being a "Fighting Irish" because of the University of Notre Dame's offensive nickname. People make a generalization based on Notre Dame's logo and nickname that all Irish people are drunk, bearded brawlers looking only for a beer and a fight. I hope that this potential name change at Illinois will pave the way for all offensive nicknames to be removed from University athletic departments. I think this is a great move by the Illinois University directors and sets a fantastic precedent where future students may compete athletically without being offended by an outdated, racist nickname....pauses to let the sarcasm set in...Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha screw thos goddamn hippies and their pathetic sit-ins. I love the names. Especially the Irish. The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 That Cheif Head logo of Illinois is probrally the best one out there, even better than the 'Skins. That should be on a helmet, and they want to eliminate not only the logo but the name "Illini" as well? The FUXKING STATE IS NAMED AFTER THE TRIBE, P.C. :censored:S!!!ugh... before i pop a gasket, i'm gonna lay down and let everyone else argue this for the time being... Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I am proud to agree with JQK and Shmee.I think it is lame, they are changing their name.I'd support with glee, a team named after me.People have more to worry about, like crime, drugs... and the gout. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Did I miss something here? Why does Paynomind rhyme without fear? The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshawaggie Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I am proud to agree with JQK and Shmee.I think it is lame, they are changing their name.I'd support with glee, a team named after me.People have more to worry about, like crime, drugs... and the gout. whoa.. easy on the drugs man @josh_j12 CFA- Fargo Bobcats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pflava Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 As someone already said, the STATE is named after the Illini, for god's sake! What is offensive about Illini as the nickname for the university? It honors the tribe. And that beautiful Illini chief-head logo honors them as well, and should be the primary logo on the football helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Illinois' chancellor is gonna be my chancellor starting in the fall, but we already ditched the noble Saltine Warrior in the 70's for the fierce Orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I'm an Illini and a Chief supporter by blood (not true Native American to my knowledge).To the soon to be former chancellor I say "Good riddance!" She says she's neutral I think, but is clearly against him. She set up meetings for protestors with the state legislature.If they get rid of this...well...I dunno...I'm having terrible luck lately... JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 To the soon to be former chancellor I say "Good riddance!" She says she's neutral I think, but is clearly against him. She set up meetings for protestors with the state legislature. I'm looking forward to her coming here and I guess it's a testament to her that the biggest controversy she was involved in was over something silly like the mascot and team name (a problem she won't have to deal with here, unless citrus fruits begin demanding fair representation ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilTownMVP Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I read that article 5 times and nowhere did I see them mention dropping the Illini name... just the logo. Relax.Personally, I have no problem with names like Illini, Indians, Braves, etc. But caricatures and mascots are unneccessary. Remember, being completely insensitive is just as corny as being overly sensitive.As far as Marquette... they could've just as easily kept the Warriors name and changed their mascot to an ancient Greek. But I'm glad they didn't because: a. it shows how much they lack common sense (which can also be used to explain why they don't have football in a major league market), and b. to this day, their alumni are pissed off about it. Dubya's thoughts on "terrorist" nations: "They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 The thing is, the Illini is the WORST example that the Native Americans could have gone after. They are named after the state they are in, which is named aftera real tribe. Their mascot is a literal, dignified representation of an Illini chief.I would hate it, but still almost understand if they were protesting in Cleveland to get Wahoo banned, or in Washington to get the Redskins to change. But the Illinios thing? Horrible decision. I guess they just knew the head of the school was open to influencing. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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