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The powder blue of the throwbacks seems heavier and richer than the powder blue of the actual uniforms from the 70's and 80's. Maybe that's just old photographs, but I think it was more muted back then. (killer pose by the way) am I wrong?

I believe the Phillies burgundy swirly P with accompanying light blue ROAD uniforms of the 70's and 80's is vastly superior in every way to the 1993 red and white uniforms and it's what the Phillies should be wearing for every game, but I'm glad and relieved they won't be clinching the World Series in the powder blue throwbacks. That'd be a weird anachronistic uniform curio that we should try to avoid. The 2016 Cavs are always my example for this. They wore black T-shirts in what would become the biggest moment in franchise history and nobody stopped them and now it looks silly. It's sort of like if the Hartford Whalers had won the Stanley Cup while wearing cooperalls. A short-lived trend cemented forever. I don't like alternate uniforms in the playoffs for that reason. If the burgundy look is good enough to wear when you're playing to clinch the World Series then that should be what you wear all the time. If not then stick to your primary look for postseason games.

Can someone explain to me like I'm 5 why that move worked and what exactly happened? I don't follow Nascar that closely and I haven't been able to find a good summarization.

And the TV numbers are very legible on the Packers. I don't take a hardline stance like our new friend thinks. Sometimes TV numbers are okay, but I'm also not going to argue that every football uniform must have them even when they're shrinking to a humorously small size like the Panthers and a couple other teams. One of my favorite football uniforms ever, actually, is the Eddie George era Ohio State with the champion numbers you could read from space. But that was at a time when shoulder pad real estate was at its absolute peak in terms of size and you could get away with it. It looked cool because you had the space to pull it off. Even with the size of those numbers there's still space for the stripes and room for the numbers to breathe. These days the space is at least half of what it was back then and if a team wants to use that space for a design element like a series of stripes or a logo then the first thing I'm cutting is the TV number, which isn't and never has been an absolute necessity (IDK if you know this, but there's two very large numbers on the front and back of a football jersey). If OSU went back to the correct sleeve stripes like the Good Dude intended then I wouldn't be bothered if they opted against TV numbers altogether or used the 68 throwback with the black TV number full-time.

I'm not a mod, but here's some things that I find annoying: - Taking someone's subjective opinion on football uniforms so personally. - Behaving like your solution is the only correct solution. - Strawman arguments. - Trying to catch people in some sort of logical contradiction - not every uniform is the same equation and not everything is a 1-to-1 comparison or black & white. Just because something works for Team X doesn't mean I'd like to see it on Teams, A, E, I, O, and U. Just because something works for Teams, A, E, I, O, and U doesn't mean I'd like to see it for Team X. - Generalizing statements like "People here only like traditional and boring uniforms". - edit: downvoting reasonable advice

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The cat scratch thing has been tried before. So it looks dumb on the Panthers and was tried by a college team in 2008. Putting scratch marks on a Panthers concept has become such a trope of the concepts board that it's up there with "The Minnesota Twins should wear purple and yellow" or "What if the Broncos 1997 horse head logo was inside of a D?" or "What if Penn State put the oval lion logo on the helmet?"

Not surprised at all from my perspective. All of the Browns strengths line up with all of the Bengals weaknesses. It's a terrible matchup for the Bengals. The matchup problem only compounds if the game unfolds in the Browns favor. Same thing happened last year in their October game. That's why the Bengals can beat the Chiefs twice, but lose by 30 to the :censored:ing Browns. The Bengals are the same team as last year with worst injury luck. The real problem is losing the #1 shutdown corner. If he's out for the year you can probably scratch them off right now.

Wouldn't be a World Series in Philadelphia without loads of rain.

Those orange Bears helmets should be against the law.

Looks like it. All-in on the Super Bowl really meant all-in. At least it worked? From my perspective if this group of Bengals never wins one I'll think about how they lost probably the most winnable Super Bowl of the last two decades. Is Trevor Lawrence officially butt, or is he just on the Jaguars? He looked actually bad yesterday, but that Broncos defense is nothing to sneeze at.

I can't really explain why white hockey pants never work, but they never work. They always look silly. Maybe it's because they look like a big diaper?

The Panthers have fallen into what I call Template Hell where the uniform has been shaped and poked and tweaked to fit into a template it wasn't designed for and that's why the pants stripe is now cut off at the bottom of the pants hem and doesn't come to a tapered point like the Good Dude intended. They're also their own worst enemy for combination fatigue. I don't think the white pants are necessary ever, but if you must wear them then please only wear them with the white jerseys. Knock it off with the white pants with the the black and blue jerseys. It makes the silver helmet look out of place and is an inferior look to the silver pants. Their best look is the black jersey with the silver pants and they almost never wear it anymore.

Angry at the Cincinnati Reds playing out another meaningless September and thinking about how we probably can't implement promotion and relegation in MLB or MLS at this point - I think there needs to be more of a deterrent to finishing in last place than there currently is to keep teams trying and playing their hardest throughout the season. High draft picks actually incentivize losing and lotteries don't seem to prevent tanking in any meaningful way. Solution: Forced Embarrassment. In MLS they have the title of Wooden Spoon, but nobody actually gets a wooden spoon. What I'm saying is, they should. League rule should be that if you finish in last place they send you a giant wooden spoon with the year on it and you have to prominently display it in your stadium like a scarlet letter for everyone to see. If you don't you forfeit your #1 overall draft pick. Not sure what MLB could do - maybe send the Washington Nationals a big red ass that says "2022 Last Place" and they have to keep that in their stadium next to the 2019 World Series flag forever.

Look at the size of those TV numbers. They're smaller than the Captain's C. I don't know how anyone can look at that and think those humorously tiny numbers are A. a necessity for player identification and B. look better than just leaving it empty.

Don't do that. Obviously. That's why I was careful to say "Shrinking sleeve space necessitated the numbers move to the shoulders, but the better solution would've been not to use TV numbers at all because they're unnecessary clutter as the Pats, Chargers, and Bengals have shown." You keep the famous sleeve stripes and lose the unnecessary numbers. Problem solved for everyone and everything.

It wasn't as subtle as black helmets, which would've also worked with both home and road looks and wouldn't have looked like glitter exploded in the factory. You can't use the word OBJECTIVELY when stating an opinion. You can't use the word OBJECTIVELY when stating an opinion. They both changed, though. Good examples to prove my point. Both the Bears and Packers looked better and more like the classic Bears and Packers when the shoulders were empty. You can add the Chiefs in there too. The Raiders are probably the best example of not filling uniform space just to fill uniform space and looking better for it. Shrinking sleeve space necessitated the numbers move to the shoulders, but the better solution would've been not to use TV numbers at all because they're unnecessary clutter as the Pats, Chargers, and Bengals have shown. That's a subjective opinion you're allowed to have and one I'm not going to address. You know what they are, though. Mine too. They would look even better without cramming that TV number there. That's not my style. My style is thoughtful intentionality, which is why I think tacky dumb :censored: like teal-flaked helmets is tacky dumb :censored: because I have good taste. You don't know anything about me.

I was ten years old when they debuted those uniforms and every kid thought they were the coolest thing we'd ever seen. Every dad thought they were an abomination. I remember my dad saying it was tragic that they won the Super Bowl in them rather than the orange crush jerseys. I thought they wouldn't have won the super bowl if they hadn't changed and I still kind of believe that. Terrell Davis got better because the uniforms made him look cooler, which is, of course, ridiculous, but that's what I thought at that age.

I know I'll be tuning into the game tonight to get a glimpse of this circus for myself. I've had it circled for weeks.

That's not the same logic at all. It was an extraneous flair that didn't help the brand look better, didn't do anything the standard black helmet didn't do better, and wasn't justified for any design purpose other than "teal flake could be fun?????". Unique doesn't mean good and it was incredibly overbearing, tacky, and made the logo look worse because it wasn't set against a solid black background. It looked like a bass fishing boat. Actually, maybe it was perfect for Jacksonville, Florida. Never thought I'd see someone defend those late Reebok Jaguars uniforms, the textbook example of thoughtlessly modern and forgettable design. Just an absolute dud of a football uniform. "wasting space"? How is a clean, open shoulder pad wasting space? Many of football's best uniforms don't feel the need to cram a design element into every open area. That's, like, the definition of restraint in design. Because it's unnecessary visual clutter that doesn't communicate the message that the 3 stripes on the shoulders doesn't communicate in fewer strokes. As long as color is present and the concept is communicated, less is always more. It had the "tiger" dialed up to 100, which is what I said. The original concept in 2004 was "what if we looked like actual tigers?" which is how we got the contrasting color sleeves, the white side stripe, and the orange yokes on the white jerseys. They looked at the 2003 uniforms and said "these aren't striking enough" and that's how we got the stupidest looking uniform in team history and made me look at them for 17 years. Okay so they fixed all of that on the current uniforms. They're the right amount of striking. I'm sorry you don't like good football uniforms.

4th largest media market in the country vs. the 8th. Something tells me Fox isn't really worried about ratings for this one.

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It created a lot of terrible imitations that weren't strict about matching the side panel with the pants. The Broncos always seemed to take care to ever avoid doing this and it's sad that they're breaking their 25 year perfect streak.

To be fair to the Bengals that was because they wanted the first time in the white helmets to be a primetime home game and the league scheduled the Dolphins for that. Their other primetime home game this year is against the Bills, also a white helmeted team. At least the Dolphins went all-aqua to balance it out. Youths won't remember this, but that uniform rocked the sports world. That was a very real turning point.

Hey I never accused you of using Nike talk. You asked why the Bengals number font is more fitting of the team name than the chunkiest, dumbest looking font possible and I told you. Says the guy who keeps sharing concepts with the tackiest, most over-drawn cartoon fonts possible. Those aren't minor changes. The uniform looks the appropriate amount of "brash" while also not looking too silly. Anything extra to "make it complete" would just be unnecessary visual noise and clutter. And we know that because the 2004 uniforms were the same as the current uniforms just with a lot of unnecessary bulls*** thrown on top of it. Those uniform cranked the tiger dial up to 100 and it looked stupid as :censored: for 17 years. Yeah and it would look dumb and tacky. That's because I have taste. I don't like forcing a design element just to force a design element. That's not surprising. The teal flaked helmets were the example of Doing Something Just Because You Can until they went and made the helmets half gold and half black, which made the teal flaked helmets look tasteful in comparison. I've been at this a long time and it takes a lot to impress me and one of these looks is better than what the team is currently wearing (The Rams. Maybe the Panthers, but that number font needs to be dialed back by like 65%) which even includes Washington. I'm glad your dude has familiarized himself with how to use a photoshop template, but there's nothing in there I haven't seen done better 100 times in the concepts forum.