Mets Sign Chan Ho Park

[NJTank]

It invalidates yours

I don't know if he can turn it around with the Mets I doubt it but its not impossible

[Eye]

And how exactly does it do that? You tried to prove me wrong by putting up a link to your site. Your link about the part with the Padres does not say the name Chan Ho Park anywhere so I don't exactly see how my statement is now invalid. You never gave any proof that you thought it was Park would do well where he was last season, so to say my statement is invalid is a bunch of BS. I'm not asking for proof as to whether or not you thought Park's signing with the Mets, Padres, or whoever is good, but to say I'm wrong without giving any reason is just plain stupid. Your link doesn't shoot me down; it just doesn't prove you are right so your statement is the one that is really invalid.

-E.A.R.

[CC97]

Your link about the part with the Padres does not say the name Chan Ho Park anywhere so I don't exactly see how my statement is now invalid. You never gave any proof that you thought it was Park would do well where he was last season, so to say my statement is invalid is a bunch of BS.

Actually he lists Chan Ho Park as his NL Comeback Pitcher of the Year on that link.

Look closer.

[WJMorris3]

You know, maybe they can change this from a signing to a naming rights deal?

"Welcome to Chan Ho Park for this game between the Mets and Braves."

[Eye]

Your link about the part with the Padres does not say the name Chan Ho Park anywhere so I don't exactly see how my statement is now invalid. You never gave any proof that you thought it was Park would do well where he was last season, so to say my statement is invalid is a bunch of BS.

Actually he lists Chan Ho Park as his NL Comeback Pitcher of the Year on that link.

Look closer.

Yes, he does. I thought Tank meant the section about the Padres only. In fact, I read the information about the Pads over and over again to see where he mentioned Park. I doubt Park will do well. That rotation sure looks like it's gonna be shaky. Glavine, Martinez, Hernandez, Park. Old and injury prone. Who will be their other starter? Perez? Maine? The Mets won't win the NL East next season. Not unless they change that rotation.

-E.A.R.

[NJTank]

And Park wont make the team if he stinks it up in Spring Training or Mike Pelfry and Phillip Humber impress. The Mets offense is good enough to make up for the weak rotation until Pedro gets back or they can make a deal at the All-Star Break.

[marlinfan]

Depending on the severity of Pedro's rotator cuff tear, he may never pitch effectively again.

Results: At a mean follow-up of 66.6 months for the pitchers, only 1 player (8%) was able to return to a high competitive level of baseball with no significant shoulder dysfunction after mini-open repair of a full-thickness rotator cuff tear. Of the 2 position players with mini-open repairs of the full-thickness rotator cuff tear of their dominant shoulders, 1 was able to return to professional baseball. Of the 2 position players with mini-open repairs of the full-thickness rotator cuff tear of their nondominant shoulders, both were able to return to professional baseball at the same or higher level.

http://ajs.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/34/2/182

Even if he does pitch, it will take him several starts to get in any sort of rhythm. You don't sit out for almost a year and all of the sudden come back pitching like an ace (or even a number 3).

The Mets rotation going into this season is the 4th best in the division and they are not even close to the 3rd best rotation.

The Mets as a whole are a third place team right now.

[NJTank]

These days a good bullpen is more important then a rotation and the Mets have the best Bullpen in the NL

[marlinfan]

These days a good bullpen is more important then a rotation and the Mets have the best Bullpen in the NL

When did pitchers that pitch 1/3 of a game become more important than the guys who pitch 2/3 of a game?

[CC97]

These days a good bullpen is more important then a rotation and the Mets have the best Bullpen in the NL

When did pitchers that pitch 1/3 of a game become more important than the guys who pitch 2/3 of a game?

These days

[VitaminD]

These days a good bullpen is more important then a rotation and the Mets have the best Bullpen in the NL

When did pitchers that pitch 1/3 of a game become more important than the guys who pitch 2/3 of a game?

Actually, when you're talking about the Mets, those fractions still hold.

The guys who pitch 1/3 of the games for the Mets will be the old, ready-to-break-down starters. The vaunted bullpen will cover Innings 4 through 9. So the more important guys are still doing 2/3 of the work... just not the first 2/3 of the work.

Here in Philadelphia, we have 6 starters. Some of that illustrious bullpen might get you one year's worth of John Lieber for a reasonable (read: extremely overpaid) pricetag.

Go Phils.

[NJTank]

But your manager is Charlie Manuel

[Cyclopsis Joe]

But your manager is Charlie Manuel

And you got caught looking.

We can do this back and forth all day.

[FiddySicks]

What would you all say if he regains the All-Star form he had in LA.

I'd say that I'd awaken in my bed from a sound sleep, then proceed to tell my wife about this strange dream I just had, where Chan Ho Park actually performed like a Major League pitcher for the Mets. She'd then tell me it was all just a bad dream, and I would fall back to sleep, after pinching myself just to make sure I was still living in the real world, where Chan Ho Park won't be able to retire MLB hitters with effective regularity.

Well, that is untill larry, Darril, and Darril walk in.........

[TFoA]

These days a good bullpen is more important then a rotation and the Mets have the best Bullpen in the NL

When did pitchers that pitch 1/3 of a game become more important than the guys who pitch 2/3 of a game?

You must not have seen the Braves play last year. Our starting rotation was solid, our bullpen was garbage. We'd go into the 6 (1/3)th with probably a 5-1 lead, then put in our reliever and we'd end up losing 8-5. You need a solid bullpen to win, and that's one thing we've been improving in this offseason.

Which brings me to my other point: While the other contenders in the NL East are either young or improving, the Mets are neither. It seems to me like they're saying "O well, we stopped the Streak. Let's have a 2 year party about it."

[marlinfan]

These days a good bullpen is more important then a rotation and the Mets have the best Bullpen in the NL

When did pitchers that pitch 1/3 of a game become more important than the guys who pitch 2/3 of a game?

You must not have seen the Braves play last year. Our starting rotation was solid, our bullpen was garbage. We'd go into the 6 (1/3)th with probably a 5-1 lead, then put in our reliever and we'd end up losing 8-5. You need a solid bullpen to win, and that's one thing we've been improving in this offseason.

Which brings me to my other point: While the other contenders in the NL East are either young or improving, the Mets are neither. It seems to me like they're saying "O well, we stopped the Streak. Let's have a 2 year party about it."

No, I know a team must have an average to decent bullpen to be competitive. Believe me, we down here in Miami went through a similar situation when it comes to a crappy bullpen (our pen blew 33 leads last year). But to say a good bullpen is more valuable than a good starting rotation is, in my opinion, crazy. I'd take a very good rotation over a very good bullpen any day of the week, especially when the Mets plan to start some of the names they are throwing out.

No use in having a good bullpen when the starter goes 5-6 innings and gives up 4-5 runs (and vice versa).

[TFoA]

Then I agree with what you're saying. If your starting rotation isn't good then you're :censored:ed. But if the bullpen can't hold a freakin 4-run lead then you're :censored:ed as well. So I guess I'll conclude by saying, you just need good pitching, period.

[WJMorris3]

This could be a four-team race in the NL East anyways. Mets, Braves, Marlins, Nationals... pick your poison. Anyone with a competent manager has a shot.

[NJTank]

These days a good bullpen is more important then a rotation and the Mets have the best Bullpen in the NL

When did pitchers that pitch 1/3 of a game become more important than the guys who pitch 2/3 of a game?

You must not have seen the Braves play last year. Our starting rotation was solid, our bullpen was garbage. We'd go into the 6 (1/3)th with probably a 5-1 lead, then put in our reliever and we'd end up losing 8-5. You need a solid bullpen to win, and that's one thing we've been improving in this offseason.

Which brings me to my other point: While the other contenders in the NL East are either young or improving, the Mets are neither. It seems to me like they're saying "O well, we stopped the Streak. Let's have a 2 year party about it."

Remember the Names Phillip Humber and Mike Pelfry