Sec19Row53 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I bow before the greatness of this post. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Would've made a lot of sense.Still waiting for my explanation....Also to the above poster....IIRC one of the deals in the merger was that the East Divisions had to be the 5 team ones at first. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi74 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Readin this thread got me thinking about how the divisions were setup for the 1970 merger. I think the following would have been the optimal arrangement given three divisions in each confrence, and which teams were slated to be in which confrence: AFCEastMiami Dolphins New York JetsBuffalo Bills New England Patriots CentralPittsburgh SteelersBaltimore ColtsCleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals WestKansas City Chiefs Oakland Raiders Denver Broncos Houston Oilers San Diego Chargers NFCEastNew York GiantsWashington RedskinsPhiladelphia EaglesAtlanta FalconsCentralChicago BearsGreen Bay PackersDetroit LionsMinnesota VikingsSt. Louis Cardinals WestDallas CowboysSan Fransico 49ersNew Orleans Saints Los Angeles Rams (for expansion in 1976 add Seattle Seahawks to the NFC West, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers to the AFC East)Would've made a lot of sense.The 1970 AFC set-up was pretty much perfect and everyone came out happy, Baltimore in the East was the right move since they had a rivalry with the Jets via SBIII and the Dolphins because of the way Shula left along with being on the east coast. The NFC was a mess because of politics which is why they ended up picking one out of a hat and I think the above NFC set-up was in the hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I bow before the greatness of this post. The original concept was "No More Realignments," but I couldn't find a good whore to go with the gnome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkell007 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 AFC (Western)MidwestDenver BroncosKansas City ChiefsMinnesota VikingsSt.Louis RamsSouthwestArizona CardinalsDallas CowboysHouston TexansNew Orleans SaintsCentralChicago BearsDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersIndianapolis ColtsPacificOakland RaidersSan Diego ChargersSan Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksNFC (Eastern)MideastNew York GiantsNew York JetsPhiladelphia EaglesPittsburgh SteelersSoutheastAtlanta FalconsJacksonville JaguarsMiami DolphinsTampa Bay BuccaneersNortheastBuffalo BillsCleveland BrownsCincinnati BengalsNew England PatriotsAtlanticBaltimore RavensCarolina PanthersTennessee TitansWashington Redskins These are my alignment ideas. Most rivalries are still kept I hope yall are happy with them.Swap the Teams from Ohio and the 2 "New Jersey" teams and its 100% perfect re-alignment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telemundo219 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Okay maybe Minnesota and Denver have nothing to do with St.Louis but Seattle didn't when they were thrown into the NFC West. Someone mentioned the Cardinals used to play in St.Louis. Okay. But what about them playing in Chicago. For that fact why aren't the Cardinals in the NFC North? Many of these "rivalries" weren't rivalries then and some have lost their luster now. If everything is made a preserving rivalries, who might end doing weird things like putting the Cowboys and Cardinals in the east division and the Falcons and Panthers in the west that actually has teams flying all over the place when you could've group them together in a way that they are close. If I'm the Giants I would rather be paired with the Jets so I don't have to travel so much instead of being paired with the Cowboys because of history. Please. Some of these players weren't even alive yet when the "rivalries" were started and the players move around from team to team (free agency) so often, they aren't around to see the same guys over and over again to really develop real rivalries.So are you happy Rams80, you finally got your answer! College sports as we know them are just about dead. The lid is off on all the corruption that taints just about every major program and every decision that the schools or the NCAA make is only about money, money, and more money. We'll have three 16+ team super-conferences sooner rather than later, killing much of the regional flair and traditional rivalries that make college sports unique and showing the door to any school that doesn't bring money to the table in the process. Pretty soon the smaller schools are going to have to consider forming their own sanctioning body to keep the true spirit of college sports alive because the NCAA will only get worse in it's excess from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Okay maybe Minnesota and Denver have nothing to do with St.Louis but Seattle didn't when they were thrown into the NFC West.The NFC West as currently constituted could be described as the NFL's "orphan" division following the realignment. I was willing to accept the Seahags as Divisional Rivals because there were not many other places where they could go. That they were willing to become a good team and intense rivals quickly with the Rams made it all the better. (I do have some residual hatred for Atlanta, New Orleans, and Carolina from the old "West" as well) Someone mentioned the Cardinals used to play in St.Louis. Okay. But what about them playing in Chicago. For that fact why aren't the Cardinals in the NFC North?Because no one in Chi-town gives a about the Cardinals nowadays (but at least the Cardinals know what the Bears are). That and "Dollar Bill" hates travel costs.Many of these "rivalries" weren't rivalries then and some have lost their luster now. If everything is made a preserving rivalries, who might end doing weird things like putting the Cowboys and Cardinals in the east division and the Falcons and Panthers in the west that actually has teams flying all over the place when you could've group them together in a way that they are close. It's for the fans. Let me repeat....IT'S FOR THE FANS. The fans don't give a flying about geography...they care about beating the same team year in and year out because...well, I'm sure you have reasons much like I have mine. (And again in your analogy, "Dollar Bill" actually misses the Cowboys-those were his best drawing games). If I'm the Giants I would rather be paired with the Jets so I don't have to travel so much instead of being paired with the Cowboys because of history. Please.The fans would burn the Meadowlands to the ground if that happened. Pure and simple. (Let's not get into the whole "giving the New York teams an extra home game" problem. Some of these players weren't even alive yet when the "rivalries" were started and the players move around from team to team (free agency) so often, they aren't around to see the same guys over and over again to really develop real rivalries.You'd be surprised how quickly fans can indoctrinate players on who not to like anymore. (Besides, that's what the older players are for-back in '99 Ike and the other Rams who'd been on the team for awhile had the new guys wanting to utterly destroy San Fran.)So are you happy Rams80, you finally got your answer!My final point is that it's not healthy for constant realignment because at the rate we're going I'm gonna hate everyone else in the league. That's not fun. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telemundo219 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Okay maybe Minnesota and Denver have nothing to do with St.Louis but Seattle didn't when they were thrown into the NFC West.The NFC West as currently constituted could be described as the NFL's "orphan" division following the realignment. I was willing to accept the Seahags as Divisional Rivals because there were not many other places where they could go. That they were willing to become a good team and intense rivals quickly with the Rams made it all the better. (I do have some residual hatred for Atlanta, New Orleans, and Carolina from the old "West" as well) Someone mentioned the Cardinals used to play in St.Louis. Okay. But what about them playing in Chicago. For that fact why aren't the Cardinals in the NFC North?Because no one in Chi-town gives a about the Cardinals nowadays (but at least the Cardinals know what the Bears are). That and "Dollar Bill" hates travel costs.Many of these "rivalries" weren't rivalries then and some have lost their luster now. If everything is made a preserving rivalries, who might end doing weird things like putting the Cowboys and Cardinals in the east division and the Falcons and Panthers in the west that actually has teams flying all over the place when you could've group them together in a way that they are close. It's for the fans. Let me repeat....IT'S FOR THE FANS. The fans don't give a flying about geography...they care about beating the same team year in and year out because...well, I'm sure you have reasons much like I have mine. (And again in your analogy, "Dollar Bill" actually misses the Cowboys-those were his best drawing games). If I'm the Giants I would rather be paired with the Jets so I don't have to travel so much instead of being paired with the Cowboys because of history. Please.The fans would burn the Meadowlands to the ground if that happened. Pure and simple. (Let's not get into the whole "giving the New York teams an extra home game" problem. Some of these players weren't even alive yet when the "rivalries" were started and the players move around from team to team (free agency) so often, they aren't around to see the same guys over and over again to really develop real rivalries.You'd be surprised how quickly fans can indoctrinate players on who not to like anymore. (Besides, that's what the older players are for-back in '99 Ike and the other Rams who'd been on the team for awhile had the new guys wanting to utterly destroy San Fran.)So are you happy Rams80, you finally got your answer!My final point is that it's not healthy for constant realignment because at the rate we're going I'm gonna hate everyone else in the league. That's not fun.Okay, I respect your reasoning. It makes enough sense. I wouldn't be able to hate the Broncos, Chargers, or Raiders if divisions were changed. GO CHIEFS! College sports as we know them are just about dead. The lid is off on all the corruption that taints just about every major program and every decision that the schools or the NCAA make is only about money, money, and more money. We'll have three 16+ team super-conferences sooner rather than later, killing much of the regional flair and traditional rivalries that make college sports unique and showing the door to any school that doesn't bring money to the table in the process. Pretty soon the smaller schools are going to have to consider forming their own sanctioning body to keep the true spirit of college sports alive because the NCAA will only get worse in it's excess from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Serenity, now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 SERIOUSLY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_limey Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 These are my alignment ideas. Most rivalries are still kept I hope yall are happy with them.Aside from my Redskins Rivalries with the Cowboys, which is kind of a very big deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew22 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 SERIOUSLY!!!You are in no position to talk there dude. Eagles/Heels/Dawgs/Falcons/Hawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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