CCM Jersey Question

[DustDevil61]

I'm not 100% sure where to put this, but I feel as though this is the best place; but anyways, here goes:

I just got a Carolina Hurricanes red jersey off of Ebay this weekend. It's listed as a CCM. I'm not sure if it's a proper replica or knock-off. I'm fine with keeping it if it's a legitimate replica (I paid $20 to buy it and ship it), but I promised myself that I would never get a knock-off. Even though the listing said that this was "Authentic," I could see myself confusing what's authentic and what's replica. The crest and shoulder patches appear fine, being ironed on.

Here's the details of the uniform that raised questions for me:

--The shoulder yoke is rectangular, ending an inch or two below the shoulder patches and lining up with ; it doesn't have a curved ending. It also lines up with the seam of the sleeves. Is this something you'd see in a replica?

--The material is as stretchy as my other jerseys (Boston Bruins late 90s white, Utah Grizzlies early 2000s white, New Jersey Devils 80s Christmas, white). Isn't the material in CCM replicas supposed to be stiffer?

--The neck collar is flatter than usual; for example, the collars on the Bruins, Grizzlies, and Devils jerseys feel a little more "bubbly." Is this a result of use or not?

So, what would any of you say, based on jersey-buying experience?

[Morgan33]

--The shoulder yoke is rectangular, ending an inch or two below the shoulder patches and lining up with ; it doesn't have a curved ending. It also lines up with the seam of the sleeves. Is this something you'd see in a replica?

If it has a (Phantom) shoulder yolk its not an official CCM jersey. The Yolk wasn't added until the NHL was forced to switch to the Reebok Edge Uniform System. Also the fact you only paid $20 raises some red flags... Perhaps you could post some pictures.

[DustDevil61]

What I meant was that the sewing on the shoulder area is rectangular...there's no phantom yolk on this jersey.

[charger77]

--The shoulder yoke is rectangular, ending an inch or two below the shoulder patches and lining up with ; it doesn't have a curved ending. It also lines up with the seam of the sleeves. Is this something you'd see in a replica?

If it has a (Phantom) shoulder yolk its not an official CCM jersey. The Yolk wasn't added until the NHL was forced to switch to the Reebok Edge Uniform System. Also the fact you only paid $20 raises some red flags... Perhaps you could post some pictures.

Price may not be a dead give away, I have got some great deals on ebay lately on CCM jerseys BNWT.

[AsM29]

I can think of two problems... 1) It should definitely have a rounded shoulder yoke. 2) If it is a red jersey, then it should be a "Koho", not "CCM".

[GO2HELL]

I can think of two problems... 1) It should definitely have a rounded shoulder yoke. 2) If it is a red jersey, then it should be a "Koho", not "CCM".

not all pre edge's have the rounded shoulder yoke. i have a pre edge canucks jersey (koho) with a rectangular shaped yoke.

[Pizzaman7294]

is there any chance you could post some pics??

[GO2HELL]

ignore

[ColeJ]

I can think of two problems... 1) It should definitely have a rounded shoulder yoke. 2) If it is a red jersey, then it should be a "Koho", not "CCM".

that's simply not true. the ccm/koho thing only lasted a few years. the hurricanes had these uniforms before that went into effect.

[Roger Clemente]

I can think of two problems... 1) It should definitely have a rounded shoulder yoke. 2) If it is a red jersey, then it should be a "Koho", not "CCM".

If it's a pre-Edge replica made after 2004, it'll likely be a CCM, no matter what color the jersey is. It was around the lockout that Koho seemed to have disappeared from the replica market.

The price of a pre-Edge replica may not be a giveaway to it's authenticity. Some people may just want to get rid of their stuff for dirt cheap. And I have come across jerseys even cheaper than that at thrift stores and flea markets, even at excellent quality.

[AsM29]

I can think of two problems... 1) It should definitely have a rounded shoulder yoke. 2) If it is a red jersey, then it should be a "Koho", not "CCM".

not all pre edge's have the rounded shoulder yoke. i have a pre edge canucks jersey (koho) with a rectangular shaped yoke.

I'm almost positive that the Hurricanes have always had the rounded shoulder Yoke.

I can think of two problems... 1) It should definitely have a rounded shoulder yoke. 2) If it is a red jersey, then it should be a "Koho", not "CCM".

that's simply not true. the ccm/koho thing only lasted a few years. the hurricanes had these uniforms before that went into effect.

After a little research, it seems that you are correct. My mistake.

[Bmac]

I assume the logos are not screen printed? Also, have you checked the placement of the manufacturer's logo?

[Morgan33]

If there is no phantom yolk I can tell you with 100% certainty your jersey is the real deal (Replica). Knockoffs didn't exist before the implementation of the Edge Uniform System. There is no such thing a knockoff CCM period.

[OMMF]

If there is no phantom yolk I can tell you with 100% certainty your jersey is the real deal (Replica). Knockoffs didn't exist before the implementation of the Edge Uniform System. There is no such thing a knockoff CCM period.

Wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Trevor-Linden-Vancouver-Canucks-Jersey-Size-XXL-54-/330563043180?pt=U_Hockey_Fan_Shop&hash=item4cf717bf6c

[Morgan33]

If there is no phantom yolk I can tell you with 100% certainty your jersey is the real deal (Replica). Knockoffs didn't exist before the implementation of the Edge Uniform System. There is no such thing a knockoff CCM period.

Wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Trevor-Linden-Vancouver-Canucks-Jersey-Size-XXL-54-/330563043180?pt=U_Hockey_Fan_Shop&hash=item4cf717bf6c

What does this prove?

The picture is so small you can barely make out the company logo. Pre-Edge designs have been counterfeited, but they are usually applied to the edge format and nobody who knows anything about jerseys would have a hard time picking them out

[OMMF]

If there is no phantom yolk I can tell you with 100% certainty your jersey is the real deal (Replica). Knockoffs didn't exist before the implementation of the Edge Uniform System. There is no such thing a knockoff CCM period.

Wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item4cf717bf6c

What does this prove?

The picture is so small you can barely make out the company logo. Pre-Edge designs have been counterfeited, but they are usually applied to the edge format and nobody who knows anything about jerseys would have a hard time picking them out

It proves there are knockoff CCM jerseys?

Here's another:

and another:

[Dante_X]

There should be a tag inside the jersey on your left side. If the jersey is brand new, there should be a sticker (like a price sticker) with the date of fabrication on it.

[Morgan33]

Okay so there are CCM knockoffs now but its highly unlikely you'd find a Hurricanes Pre-Edge one. CCM 6100 fakes are usually vintage throwbacks like the two you posted.

Fakes were not problem before the age of Reebok so its highly unlikely the china manufacturers would bother to make the pre-edge version when the only real difference is the lack of a phantom yolk.

[DustDevil61]

I'll post some photos later today...but here's the seller and their items, with a couple of NY Rangers and a throwback Penguins jerseys for your reference...

[Morgan33]

Every one of his hockey jerseys are legit... though the quality of those Starter Replica's is almost as bad as the knockoffs