Lights Out Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 As soon as accounting or other industries start getting the media following, huge endorsements, celebrity status, regional pride, and large fandoms of professional sports, then we can start comparing sports to other businesses.You can't just focus on what the players want when deciding how a league will be structured - they all want ridiculous contracts and destination cities, which is an unsustainable structure for a league. The owners' desires, and yes, the fans' desires also need to be considered. And when you have owners with financial constraints trying to compete on the same level as owners with unlimited resources, and you have near-empty stadiums in a lot of markets every night, that suggests a major systemic problem with the MLB's structure. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Six Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Not sustainable? Is Baseball about to collapse or something? If the market decides where players want to go, so be it. That's what they want, and if you're a team in a smaller city you have to adjust your strategy. Why should arbitrary planning deflate salaries? These "unlimited resources" exist because of the larger teams' own merits. They earned it. I don't think empty stadiums is a baseball-exclusive problem, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 And when you have owners with financial constraints trying to compete on the same level as owners with unlimited resources, and you have near-empty stadiums in a lot of markets every night, that suggests a major systemic problem with the MLB's structure.There's plenty of empty seats in multiple NHL, NBA, and NFL venues right now, and there were plenty of empty seats before this recent recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I think that Minor League Baseball needs a realignment. I'm looking at you, South Atlantic League. Do you agree/disagree with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't know, you'll have to elaborate. You mean just rearrange the divisions in the Sally, or move teams up or down from Single A? It's kind of hard to do that sometimes, depending on the size of the park. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't know, you'll have to elaborate. You mean just rearrange the divisions in the Sally, or move teams up or down from Single A? It's kind of hard to do that sometimes, depending on the size of the park.Yes, some teams might have to move levels. The South Atlantic League has teams that are neither South, Atlantic, nor both.I know that Baseball America did one Minor League realignment several years ago. It can be though up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I think that Minor League Baseball needs a realignment. I'm looking at you, South Atlantic League. Do you agree/disagree with me?Disagree. Lake County and Bowling Green did shift over the the Midwest League a year or two ago. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 As soon as accounting or other industries start getting the media following, huge endorsements, celebrity status, regional pride, and large fandoms of professional sports, then we can start comparing sports to other businesses.You can't just focus on what the players want when deciding how a league will be structured - they all want ridiculous contracts and destination cities, which is an unsustainable structure for a league. The owners' desires, and yes, the fans' desires also need to be considered. And when you have owners with financial constraints trying to compete on the same level as owners with unlimited resources, and you have near-empty stadiums in a lot of markets every night, that suggests a major systemic problem with the MLB's structure.There are plenty of arguments in support of a cap being a fair (and legal - sans anti-trust exemption) solution, but you're not making any of them. You're strictly looking at it from a fan's perspective. You're right - there are a lot of differences between an accounting firm and a pro sports team - but at the end of the day, an employee is an employee, and a man is a man, and in America, a man has the right to seek the best situation for himself, be it financial or location or both. If the Yankees want to pay me $50M, and I want to play in New York, who the hell are you to tell me that I can't sign my dream deal because you want some crap team in Kansas City to be a little better? F You (I'm not saying that, just that's what I'd say if I was denied my huge contract because of your desire to watch evenly-matched baseball teams.) Here's a bigger issue - if there's not across the board revenue sharing, and you institute a cap, then the owners of the big teams are going to go from keeping say 50% of their revenue to keeping 70% or more of their revenue, because their player expenses would be capped, but their profits wouldn't be. A cap can only be "fair" for everyone if all revenue is shared evenly, and each team is given a budget of 1/30 of 50% (or whatever number) of that revenue. If the money is shared, then you can sell a cap as a budgeting thing. Otherwise, it's basically illegal. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 If the Yankees want to pay me $50M, and I want to play in New York, who the hell are you to tell me that I can't sign my dream deal because you want some crap team in Kansas City to be a little better? F You (I'm not saying that, just that's what I'd say if I was denied my huge contract because of your desire to watch evenly-matched baseball teams.)But, if the Yankees want to pay you $ 50,000,000, and you want to play in New York, the Yankees are going to find a way to have $ 50,000,000 in cap space available. Otherwise, they aren't going to offer it to you in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 If the money is shared, then you can sell a cap as a budgeting thing. Otherwise, it's basically illegal.Illegal? Well, maybe... if not for baseball's anti-trust exemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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