vicfurth Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 A trade is in the works for Orlando to trade Tracy McGrady to the Rockets for Steve Francis. Francis doesn't want to go to the Magic. Coupla questions...1) Who is this deal good for?2) If it goes down, are the Rockets looking to build a franchise similar to the Lakers (they already have Yao and possibly McGrady, who, IMO, is better than Kobe Bryant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 I think that depends on who is a better ball handeler. IMO Francis is. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizznick Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 The deal is better for the Rockets. The only question is McGrady's health, he seems to have nagging back problems.If Francis goes I suspect Mobley won't be far behind. realclearpolitics.com "Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." - Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizznick Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 I think that depends on who is a better ball handeler. IMO Francis is. The running joke here is at least Francis takes his own shot when he dribbles the clock away. realclearpolitics.com "Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." - Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Actually... the trade in question is Tracy McGrady for Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley, and Kelvin Cato.Both teams get the better end of that. If that's possible. lol.Steve Francis is good, but he carries baggage. He led the league in technical fouls.With McGrady, the Rockets would then have a Tracy McGrady/Yao Ming situation which could prove lethal in the playoffs.A bigger rumor than this is...T-Mac and Shaq would like to play together in Dallas. That would mean the Mavericks giving up alot of talent -- but that would be Kobe/Shaq version 2. The Possibility of Championships included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 So where are you guy's getting these "rumors"? Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 So where are you guy's getting these "rumors"? I just saw Stephen A. Smith on Sportscenter as well as PTI. Also, I check out realgm.com during the offseason. It's probably the best sports website I've ever seen in terms of what's going on in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Actually... the trade in question is Tracy McGrady for Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley, and Kelvin Cato.Both teams get the better end of that. If that's possible. lol.Steve Francis is good, but he carries baggage. He led the league in technical fouls.With McGrady, the Rockets would then have a Tracy McGrady/Yao Ming situation which could prove lethal in the playoffs.A bigger rumor than this is...T-Mac and Shaq would like to play together in Dallas. That would mean the Mavericks giving up alot of talent -- but that would be Kobe/Shaq version 2. The Possibility of Championships included. The Rockets/Magic deal seems more logical. As for the Dallas/Shaq/TMac rumor I doubt it they would have to give up Dirk, Nash, Finley, all of the players that have made the Mavs good again. Very Unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMS1122 Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Actually... the trade in question is Tracy McGrady for Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley, and Kelvin Cato.Both teams get the better end of that. If that's possible. lol.Steve Francis is good, but he carries baggage. He led the league in technical fouls.With McGrady, the Rockets would then have a Tracy McGrady/Yao Ming situation which could prove lethal in the playoffs.A bigger rumor than this is...T-Mac and Shaq would like to play together in Dallas. That would mean the Mavericks giving up alot of talent -- but that would be Kobe/Shaq version 2. The Possibility of Championships included. The Rockets/Magic deal seems more logical. As for the Dallas/Shaq/TMac rumor I doubt it they would have to give up Dirk, Nash, Finley, all of the players that have made the Mavs good again. Very Unlikely. then again mark cuban still owns the team.... GMS on dribbbleErie Apparel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Espn.com says the trade is finalized as long as none of the players involved are selected in the expansion draft. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1825839 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedThumb Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 It looks like Philly might make this a 3-way tradeespn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeKobe Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 McGrady to the Rockets for Francis to Magic. Followed up by Francis to the Sixers for Iverson to the Magic. THE BIGGEST TRADE IN NBA HISTORY?? At least until the Big Man is dealt out of LA!On paper it makes sense with other names thrown into the mix, but in reality with egos involved I doubt this will ever go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfannova Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Oh YEAH! Well, I've heard that McGrady goes to Houston, Francis goes to Orlando, then he goes to Philly for Iverson, then Iverson goes to Indiana for Artest and Miller, then they get sent to Dallas for Nowitski, then Artest and Miller go for Shaq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Oh YEAH! Well, I've heard that McGrady goes to Houston, Francis goes to Orlando, then he goes to Philly for Iverson, then Iverson goes to Indiana for Artest and Miller, then they get sent to Dallas for Nowitski, then Artest and Miller go for Shaq.huh? Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% about how you react to it.App State Mountaineers / Alabama Crimson Tide / Atlanta Braves / New York Jets / Atlanta Hawks "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride - and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." [Bear Bryant]Redmond Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfannova Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 It's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 ok Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% about how you react to it.App State Mountaineers / Alabama Crimson Tide / Atlanta Braves / New York Jets / Atlanta Hawks "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride - and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." [Bear Bryant]Redmond Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Stevie Francis is just a big cry baby I dont wannna go to Vancouver waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I dont wanna go to Orlando waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 So you're telling me a player should have NO input on where he chooses to play and live? That's crap. If Steve Francis doesn't want to go to Orlando, no matter what the reasons, he shouldn't have to. This is where HE chooses to live. That's like someone's boss walking up to them and saying "I'm sorry, you've been traded to the store in Akron for one of their new employees, an attractive secretary, and a box of paper clips." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Your damn right some players should have that right after they have proven themselves, Francis has not he has made the playoffs once in his career. Francis started when he was drafted and now. They are Millionaires they will still get paid so he shoudl just go to Orlando and deal with it. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 The players chose to become basketball players... noone told them they had to.That comes with the job, transfering. Look at army families, they pack up and move all over the country all the time... do they moan about it? Hell no, and they're not making millions.Francis is terrible for this, he helped kill the Vancouver Grizzlies, and he's proud of it, he POUTED after he was drafted, and refused to play for the team, I am hoping he gets traded to Orlando so he can get exactly what he deserves. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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