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Not much to say about this week, the top 2 matchups were great but then it kind of seemed to fall off from there. I’m surprised more people don’t love the Patriots uniforms, though, I think if they had a silver pants option they’d be very nearly perfect. My personal list would probably be: BEST 1. Patriots at Packers 2. Chiefs at Buccaneers HONORABLE MENTIONS 1. Chargers at Texans 2. Browns at Falcons 3. Dolphins at Bengals WORST 1. Commanders at Cowboys 2. Saints

The Saints should adopt the 49ers shade of gold (and the pants stripe style).

Thanks! The Twins gray road jersey is my favorite of their current/outgoing set, so I wanted to bring that design over as much as possible while making it consistent with the rest of the set. I wouldn’t mind if a team went to powder blue as their full-time road look (looking at the Rays and/or Royals), but I don’t know if the Twins are that team. It just feels like too bold of a move for them, if that makes sense. Moreover, making powder blue the full-time road jersey would almost necessitate using the “Minnesota” script with it, but I prefer the “Twins” script with the powder blue, for whatever reason.

Yeah, I meant that it's been a part of their graphics package as a whole the past few years, including social media. It is a very strange choice to extend that ugly bright blue all the way to the team's website, I'll admit. But beyond the wordmark we've seen in a few images, I doubt we'll see anything from that branding package transfer over. But who knows.

Thank you very much! I really appreciate it.

Thank you! I also added a World Series era fauxback if you wanna check the thread. I think the biggest mistake the Twins made in adding gold, which was inspired by the limestone at Target Field, was that they had the cream throwback jersey right there already. The shade of that jersey already matches the limestone significantly better than “Kasota gold” does. Considering it would have been significantly easier to integrate that into the main identity rather than to fit another new color into the color scheme, I’m retroactively very surprised they didn’t just make cream their main home uniform. Yea, this is just a version of the TC logo that they’ve been using on their social media the past couple years. I don’t imagine we’ll see it integrated into the actual branding, but we’ll see. Here’s to hoping this social media branding package gets dropped along with the logos & uniforms.

That’s such an affront to the Steelers.

Yeah, the black Saints helmet should NOT be worn with the Color Rush jerseys whatsoever. As I said when it was released, I actually don’t mind the helmet on its own, and I even like the fleur-de-lis pattern. However, it doesn’t work at all with the traditional Color Rush uniform, and looks all the worse with the Saints wearing white socks. This is a rare circumstance where I’d want to see the black jersey & black pants matched up with this helmet.

Yeah, I imagined they’d still keep the plain black & white pants in the rotation, too. This would just be to replace the clownfish pants.

It's wild how much this simple change to the pants improves the uniform: (I think orange over white like this is another good combo for them).

They ended up wearing the newer white pants, as they didn’t have the “swoop” towards the bottom.

I have to say, I really like this Bengals uniform. I was upset upon finding out there were going to use the old Color Rush jersey for this white-out look, but seeing it in action, I can understand why they did it. The lack of the orange outline around the numbers does help complete the look. I still think I’d prefer this, though: As a side note, the Dolphins shade of aqua looks nice under the lights. It’s not too over-bearing, as it often is in sunlight.

Thank you! Personally, I’ve always been partial to the “TC” cap, as it feels more iconic, & I’ve never really liked the “M” logo. Recently I’ve opened up to how much nostalgic factor the M hat has, though. So, in essence, I’d like to see the TC be the full-time cap, with the M reserved to a throwback at most.

I also made an update to their Cooperstown Collection design as well, since the original design was so similar to the new home uniform.

Here's a shameless plug of my prediction/hope for how the Twins' redesign will turn out:

Here's an addendum of what I predict/hope we'll see from the Twins upcoming uniform redesign this off-season: essentially a combination of different eras throughout Twins' history, while bringing consistency to the identity and moving it further into modernity. Credit goes to @SFGiants58 for the original creation of the wordmark I used for 3 of the jerseys, which I made some slight tweaks to myself.

This is the most exciting uniform news for me that I've seen in a long time. Dave St. Peter referencing the Padres was one of the most encouraging aspects of his quote. The Padres' 2020 redesign immediately vaulted them into a Top-5 uniform set in MLB in my opinion, so I could only hope the Twins could manage the same. I think it'd be difficult for them to downgrade from what they currently have, personally, so I'm cautiously optimistic. I do agree that my main hope for this redesign would be consistency. When you break down all of the inconsistencies in the Twins’ brand including their six (six!) current jerseys, it really can become infuriating. Since there's no better time to do so, I'll try to give a rundown here: Obviously, the home jerseys use gold, while the away jerseys do not. The logos have a red "Twins" wordmark with a navy outline and a silver shadow, while the home wordmark is navy with a red outline and a gold shadow. The home jersey has tri-color striping, the away has dual-colored striping (navy/red/navy), and the away navy jersey has single striping with a headspoon. There are two different "Twins" scripts, the main home wordmark and the throwback script. There are two different navy jerseys, one with gold and one without. The away jerseys have contrasting numbers not seen on any of the home jerseys. The home navy jersey has gold outlines around the wordmarks and numbers, while the rest of the jerseys have shadows. There are 4 different logo patches among the 6 jerseys. I think that's all of them, but I honestly might be missing some. It's quite atrocious. I think we'll see a streamlining of the logos, wordmarks, and uniforms across the board, to where the Twins can finally have a cohesive brand again. My hope is that they stick to 4 jerseys: white (or cream), gray, navy, and powder blue. I think the red cap & jersey can go, although I think they might keep them around. Tradition is a meaningful reason to keep it, though. I'd personally be more open than most Twins fans would be to a color change, but I can see why the team would keep navy & red. As Mr. St. Peter mentioned, the Twins don't have just 60 years of history in navy & red, they've been that way since 1901, when they were in Washington as one of the American League's charter clubs. Yes, please. I believe they will end up ditching it, as Dave St. Peter did not mention gold when reciting the Twins' colors. From what I've seen, the gold has not been popular with the fanbase, and I think he has realized that. I think and hope this is the direction they're going in, too. The wordmark they've been using is actually an updated version of @SFGiants58's script he created for the Twins: I think that's what they'll end up going with, too, probably with a tweaked "Minnesota" script to match.

This series is off to a good start! I do think your most recent version of Washington is the best one so far. They’re all pretty nice, though. The Browns set is really nice, using off-white for the throwback is genius. I’ve always liked the idea of incorporating off-white into their look, but would personally be hesitant to extend it to the whole uniform set, so this would be a perfect happy medium. It helps that it separates itself some more from the main white jersey this way, too. The Rams are probably my favorite overall set you’ve done so far, all of the updates you’ve made are quite nice. You even managed to incorporate the gradients in a tasteful way on every jersey, which is no small task. I’m looking forward to seeing what you have next!

This series looks great so far! The Cardinals set is really nice. I always tend to imagine them with a more “rounded” font, but the unique block works well for them too. The Commanders set is a definite upgrade, as well. I’d maybe like to see it with their new number font, and I’d love to see you try your hand at the alternate being black, since the facemask is still black. The Ravens look great, I always love the idea of them being primarily purple & black with a little bit of red, with gold being basically eliminated. The number font with the shadows is super cool, that’s gotta be my favorite part. I am curious what it would look like if you went with a font more closely inspired by the image you referenced, as I’ve always felt that font could work really well on the jerseys. I’m looking forward to hopefully seeing more teams from you!

Another great list. Chargers - Chiefs is pretty much perfect. I don’t think I could love the Chargers uniforms any more than I already do, the white over yellow look is absolutely phenomenal. Bears - Packers is always great, and then I think I’d vault Patriots - Steelers up to #3, as I like the Patriots set more than it seems you do. I do wish they’d add some silver pants, though. I don’t think the all-white for the Vikings is as bad as when they wear the white socks with the purple jersey, but it’s still pretty rough. Purple pants would be so much better. My personal list: BEST 1. Chargers at Chiefs 2. Bears at Packers 3. Patriots at Steelers 4. Seahawks at 49ers WORST 1. Titans at Bills

I’m a bit behind, as I just realized these lists are back (a welcome discovery!), but this is a good list. I’d probably drop everything below Steelers-Bengals into the “Honorable Mentions” category, but otherwise I pretty much agree. Packers-Vikings would normally immediately make it into my “Best” category, but the white socks for the Vikings very nearly ruins one of my favorite uniforms in the league. For the “Worst” matchups, I’d probably take Patriots-Dolphins off, as that matchup is “fine” to me, it could be better, but it could definitely be so much worse. If I kept Saints-Falcons on my “Worst” list, it’d only be because of the Saints’ horrid all-white. I agree with @raysox, I think the Falcons’ current uniform set is just fine. To recap, my personal list would be: BEST 1. 49ers at Bears 2. Raiders at Chargers 3. Steelers at Bengals HONORABLE MENTIONS 1. Browns at Panthers 2. Packers at Vikings WORST 1. Broncos at Seahawks I’m about to check out Week 2, and I’m excited to see the rest of the lists throughout the year!

The flaming thumbtack logo has always been “meh” for me. Not the worst logo ever, but definitely not among the best in the NFL. I’m not sure how I would go about depicting a “Titan” other than just leaning heavily on Greek imagery, but I wouldn’t have minded seeing the team try something new with their logo in their 2018 rebrand. Judging by how the uniforms turned out though, it probably wouldn’t have been great. Speaking of the uniforms, I think @PERRIN’s design is about as close to perfect as one could get for them. Essentially, an update of the previous uniforms would have been nice. I’m one of the rare people who doesn’t mind the Titans’ current number font, although the thicker version on the light blue jersey is far superior. Otherwise, everything about their current uniforms can go in the dumpster.

I’d argue the Jordan 1s are what really propelled Nike into the stratosphere, they’re still one of the most popular shoe designs Nike has to this day, and they prominently feature the Swoosh. (This original pair worn by Jordan sold for over $600,000).

Ah yes, I’m pretty sure they were the team I was thinking of. I think that’d be a viable solution for teams like the Steelers & throwback Dolphins. Yes, I’ll admit, Nike having quite likely one of the best logos ever definitely makes it more palatable. However, if Puma, for example, had just the animal as the logo, or if Adidas had just the three stripes, etc. (i.e., if every company had the most minimalist version of their logo), then I don’t think many of them would be much more egregious than Nike. GAP isn’t the most fair “what if,” since they’re a brand not at all associated with sports uniforms, without an iconic “logo” to show for themselves that isn’t just text. I could not disagree with this more. I don’t think I’d consider myself a professional designer by any means, but the Nike logo is iconic because of its simplicity. Sure, the brand’s success is what gets it synonymous with sportswear in popular culture, but if a brand can get across all of the associations it wants people to think of while using such a simple, singular shape for its logo, as Nike does, then I’d say they’ve done a pretty good job.

Nike has shown willingness to move their logo to accommodate the sleeve design though, as shown by the two LA teams’ recent redesigns: As you can see, the logo is significantly lower on the sleeve because of both designs. I can’t think of a specific example off of the top of my head, but I’m almost positive the logo had been placed above the shoulder cap for some other teams’ players, too, especially for bigger lineman where the stripes would get cut off otherwise. As always, it’s about whether the teams actually want/ask for the logo to be moved slightly, not Nike being unwilling to accommodate. And as for the sleeve stripe discussion in general, I’m on the younger side so football uniforms have always looked like that to me. Having the stripes cut off at the sleeve cap doesn’t bother me.