gosioux76 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 If the steelers wanted to do a uniform change, i wouldn't mind seeing the yellow yolk come back. I agree with JQK on that. I wouldn't mind seeing what the yellow yolks would look like again.As far as the one-sided logo, the only opinions that matter those of the Rooney family. They tend to be staunch traditionalists, from what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 The Steelers have never had any helmuts. They did have a Paul Held, and Warren Heller, but no Helmuts.You might want to check NFL-Deutschland. I bet they have a lot of Helmuts there. Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Helmut Sparkle.Forever better than Elzar!i need a life... Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Additional trivia, I think I read somewhere that the reason the logo sticker was added to the R side of the helmet instead of the L side was for TV purposes. [sarcasm] Because we all know that the Steelers only ever move from right to left on our TV screens [/sarcasm] It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronChefShark Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I like the font the steelers use for thier numbers. we dont need every single team wearing block numbers. you guys act as if the steelers numbers are three layered, beveled, dropshadowed all at once. the traditionalists speak of "uniqueness", well the number font they currently use is unique. let it be.they are still plain white at home, plain black on the road. its just a more modern font. I feel it adds to the uniform without snubbing tradition too much.about the only thing they need to change is to remove the logo patch from the left breast. US state flag concepts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Here is a case where a team fixed an inconsistency with modern technology... People who think the Nationals should use all one font should like this change, right?The Steelers took the well-known numbers from their helmets and put them on their jerseys once teams started ditching traditional block numbers. Now all of the numbers are consistent, but I guess you can't satisfy everyone all of the time.Also, instead of adding a logo to the left side of the helmet, they put it on the left shoulderduring the update. Guess the logo makes it into more TV shots and photos that way. I tend to side with the traditional on most issues, but if they switch back they'll be the same as the copycat Hawkeyes again. Why not be unique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebod39 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 than you CubsFanBudMan for finally stating that font related to the helmet numbers.I've been holding back for someone to come out and state what's been blatabtly missingin this topic.This is one of those cases where, like most designs, there is no "right" answer. You could have easily switched the helmet numbers to block-font and called it done. Or left it all as it wasand just chalk it up to a traditional idiosyncracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Exactly. The Steelers are still using two number styles - italic for the jerseys and roman for the helmets. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebod39 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 actually it is one style, they are the same number font. Trust me I workedon the project when I was at Nike team sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Same font, different style. Or at least that's what we call them in printing.The helmet numbers are roman (neither italic nor bold) and the jersey numbers are italic. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebod39 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 The helmet numbers have always been italic, that's why the jersey numbers are too now.The helmet numbers where the basis for the jersey numbers. I know they don't always look italic, dependong on photos, since it is very slight, but both the helmet and jersey font is the same and italic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 If you say so, I will stand corrected. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebod39 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 no worries. I've been looking through old photos and it is damn hardto clearly tell italic from roman on their helmets of the past. I have to take into account human error when applying the numbers to the helmets. I foundpics of Franco where the 3 is clearly itailc and thenthe 2 is crooked, making it appear roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 than you CubsFanBudMan for finally stating that font related to the helmet numbers.I've been holding back for someone to come out and state what's been blatabtly missingin this topic.This is one of those cases where, like most designs, there is no "right" answer. You could have easily switched the helmet numbers to block-font and called it done. Or left it all as it wasand just chalk it up to a traditional idiosyncracy. No problem. I saw your reply earlier in the thread and was surprised you hadn't mentioned it. It was always clear to me why the Steelers did it and where they got the numbers from. And I figured you were around at Nike around that time...As far as a 'right' answer, I think this Steelers update is as close as it comes... keeps tradition (even with the new numbers), but still modernizes the look. Similar to the 49ers, Dolphins, etc. Nothing too extreme, just a touch-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickV Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Additional trivia, I think I read somewhere that the reason the logo sticker was added to the R side of the helmet instead of the L side was for TV purposes. [sarcasm] Because we all know that the Steelers only ever move from right to left on our TV screens [/sarcasm] Sarcasm noted, I could be wrong, but I just remember reading somewhere that was the reason for the R sided decal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 actually it is one style, they are the same number font. Trust me I workedon the project when I was at Nike team sports. So we have you to blame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Yeah, we've already tarred, feathered and hanged him in effigy. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebod39 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 yes me and the rest of the design team. Oh well, can't please everyone.I hope the efigy was as good looking as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Man, I was going to include a really crass joke here, but instead I'll just say that no effigy could be as good-looking as you are.I'd love to hear about the design process, if you're not bored with telling the story. Once it was decided that the Steelers' uniforms needed updating, why change the numbers and leave the goofy disappearing sleeve stripes alone? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Once it was decided that the Steelers' uniforms needed updating, why change the numbers and leave the goofy disappearing sleeve stripes alone? Amen. Why fix the one thing that wasn't broke, and leave alone the one thing that really was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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