FiddySicks Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 MLB.com story On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyc Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 why are the Dodgers trading away a bunch of key players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 why are the Dodgers trading away a bunch of key players? because they want to miss the playoffs. General Magus ZealLeader of the Mystics of Medina.The forums most hated member ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 why are the Dodgers trading away a bunch of key players? Possibly traded Ishii with the aquisition of Lowe in the offseason, and probably got a catcher, because they felt they needed one after dealing Lo Duca in the offseason. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Wow for Jason Phillips too not getting much in return I can attest to that this is a great deal for the Mets after losing Trachsel www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 The Dodgers must have realized that the Angels are the superior team in the area, and are trying to slip back to Clippers status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinfan Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 This is a great trade for LAD. They got rid of a pitcher that walks guys like crazy and compensated with no strikeouts, and they acquired a catcher that they've needed.Ishii and Zambrano walk guys like crazy, the Marlins and the patient hitters (5) will have fun. 1997 | 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyRock Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 You can certainly say it's a bad trade for the Mets if you like, though I personally like it, but how can you say it's a good trade for the Dodgers? Before trading Ishii, the Dodgers had Penny, Lowe, Weaver, Ishii and Perez as their five starters. They had the best starting staff in the entire NL West. Now, you take out Ishii, and the Dodgers really don't have anyone better than him taking his spot. And by the way, good luck with Philips, Dodgers fans - he did zero for the Mets offensively last season, and he let his fair share of pitches get away from him. Actually, given the Mets luck, he'll be a superstar in Dodgertown. New York Jets |3-3| First, AFC EastNew York Mets |74-88| Fourth, NL EastNew York Islanders|34-37-11| Fifth, Atlantic DivisionNew Orleans Hornets |21-45| Third, Southwest Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatCityEnforcer Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 This is a great trade for LAD. You're joking, right? Please...Jason Phillips is not that good...ask any Mets fan about this...I'm glad he's gone, personally....he can take his goofy goggles and go hit around .200 for the Dodgers.Then again, the Dodgers wouldn't have been in this mess if they hadn't have dealt LoDuca away last year. FANTASY TEAMSHousatonic U. Dragons (NCFA Basketball): 16-6 (8-4 Conf.)--National Runner-UpJersey State U. (NCFA Football): Inaugural Year - 2006Motor City Silverhawks (WArFL): 9-4 (3rd--National Conf.)Lehigh Valley Ironmen (WAmFL): Inaugural Season--2006New England Marauders RFC (RLI): 6-0-7 (6th place)Detroit Spirit (AA): 3-6 (T-4th--Patriot League)Brooklyn Atlantics (IBF): 10-5 (1st--Appalachian Conf.)Boston Mariners RFU (WRU): Coming Soon!New York Americans (SHL): Inaugural Season - 2006-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 Before trading Ishii, the Dodgers had Penny, Lowe, Weaver, Ishii and Perez as their five starters. They had the best starting staff in the entire NL West. excuse me. i dunno. i like the look of Schmidt Williams Tomko and Rueter. although maybee not the best starting staff in the west, they are on the best overall team On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Penny is a question mark and Weaver is gutless. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Penny is a question mark and Weaver is gutless. and Lowe never really did impress me On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaolinaJoe Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Lowe should do well in a pitchers ballpark.Weaver is gutless? How is a pitcher gutless? He walked 67 guys in 220 IP, Bonds was 11 of those walks. Weaver is coming into his prime, I like what he has to offer. Oh yeah, you must be a Yankee fan. "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of thepress. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom ofspeech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given usthe freedom to demonstrate. And it is the soldier who salutes theflag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, andwho allows the protester to burn the flag."Marine Chaplain Dennis Edward O' Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZzyzx41 Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 How do you let go of Beltre, Green, Finley, Cora, Ishii, and LoDuca...and replace them with Lowe, Phillips, Kent, Valentin and Choi...and expect to do as well? Hmmm position by position:C - Phillips, Hernandez, Matheny...edge PadresMatheny and Hernandez are both great defensively but Hernandez is a MUCH better hitter)1B - Choi, Nevin, Snow...edge Giants Nevin's better offensively overall but Snow's a .300+ hitter with superior defense2B - Kent, Loretta, Durham...edge PadresKent hit .289/27/107, Loretta .335/16/76, Durham .282/17/65 so Kent drives in runs but Loretta's a better overall hitter. Loretta I believe is also far superior to the other two defensively. Kent has no range and Durham has far too many errors.3B - Valentin, Burroughs, Alfonzo...edge Giants easilyBurroughs can hit for average but Alfonzo is great defensively and beats the other two offensively overallSS - Izturis, Greene, Vizquel...edge Padres easilyIzturis and Vizquel have had their best years. Greene hasn't come close to his best year yet and .273/15/65 from a number eight hitter isn't anything to scoff at. These are three great defensive shortstops I think. Izturis perhaps not so much I guess.LF - Werth, Klesko, Bonds...DUH! GiantsIf Bonds plays this year it's a no contest. If not, It'll be Tucker and Klesko and Werth are both better than him. I'd then give the edge to Klesko because he's healthy and Werth isn't. CF - Bradley, Roberts, Grissom...edge GiantsBradley can hit but his numbers weren't impressive for an outfielder last year. Grissom hit 20+ homers both years as a Giant and .300 and .279. Not bad. Roberts gives the Padres the speed they need but he's rarely healthy and can't seem to get on base to USE his speed.RF - Encarnacion, Giles, Alou...edge GiantsGiles is a superstar but his numbers at PETCO won't be what they were at PNC. Alou will hit anywhere with or without Bonds/Sosa. Rotation: Weaver, Lowe, Penny, Perez; Williams, Peavy, Eaton, Lawrence; Schmidt, Williams, Lowry, Reuter...edge Padres. I think the Giants young arms are strong but I still think they finish third here. The Dodgers rotation is a big question mark. Penny's career could be over. Lowe had a high ERA last year but in years past you put him in Dodger Stadium and he's lights out. How will he do? Perez and Weaver proved themselves last year. The Padres have potential Cy Young candidate in Peavy, a new pitcher in Eaton who I think will have a breakout year, Williams who could see a large improvement in his numbers at PETCO and Lawrence who will be improved from last year. Bullpen: Alvarez, Dreifort, Brazoban, Carrara; Hammond, Linebrink, Otsuka, Seanez; Christiansen, Herges, Eyre, Brower...edge PadresI don't think there's a better bullpen in the majors than the one the Padres have. That could prove the difference in a close NL West.Closer: Gagne, Hoffman, Benitez...edge DodgersDoes any other division have a trio of closer like we do? I can't think of one. The Central has Lidge and Isringhausen, the East has Wagner. The AL West has K-Rod. The AL Central has Percival. The AL East has Foulke and Rivera. Nope. No trios like this one. Benitez can still be a gascan at times. Hoffman isn't the Hoffman of the mid-late 90s. Gagne starts the season on the DL but overall he'll be better than these other two.Bench: Bako, Saenz, Grabowski, Ledee; Young, Sweeney, Blum, Ojeda; Torrealba, Feliz, Cruz, Tucker...edge GiantsSweeney is one of the best pinch-hitters in the game and Grabowski has a nack for the incredible but overall the Giants have the best bench. Cruz was their starting Shortstop last year and Tucker their starting right fielder. Not bad.Giants: 6 (goes to 5 if Bonds can't play)Padres: 5 (goes to 6 if Bonds can't play)Dodgers: 1The Rockies and Diamondbacks I don't think beat all these teams at any of these positions. Glaus can't beat Alfonzo at third. Green doesn't beat Alou OR Giles in right. Left Field is Bonds and even with him out Klesko is better overall than Gonzalez though my grandma is a better defensive outfielder than Klesko. Helton can't beat Nevin or Snow at first. That's the closest anyone gets to the top from those two teams.Hence: NL West without Bonds until June or LaterPadresGiantsDodgersDiamondbacksRockiesNL West if Bonds comes back within the first 6-8 weeksGiantsPadresDodgersDiamondbacksRockies -DanielCheck Out My Podcast! Latest Episode 273: The Color BlinkyLatest Photo Upload: January 7, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyRock Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Before trading Ishii, the Dodgers had Penny, Lowe, Weaver, Ishii and Perez as their five starters. They had the best starting staff in the entire NL West. excuse me. i dunno. i like the look of Schmidt Williams Tomko and Rueter. although maybee not the best starting staff in the west, they are on the best overall team I really wonder about that. My particular point was on the starting staff. But really, the best team? I think with Bonds out, it's the Padres - and even BEFORE he got hurt, I had plenty of people telling me the Padres were taking the division - team I hear them most compared to are the 2003 Marlins, and that CAN'T be a bad thing. New York Jets |3-3| First, AFC EastNew York Mets |74-88| Fourth, NL EastNew York Islanders|34-37-11| Fifth, Atlantic DivisionNew Orleans Hornets |21-45| Third, Southwest Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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