IceCap Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Okay, I hate soccer, I hate MLS and I don't care for my local Pro Team (The Rochester Rhinos), but...THE FACT THAT TORONTO GETS A TEAM BEFORE ROCHESTER IS COMPLETE BS! We've had better attendance then the Toronto Lynx AND we actually have a stadium that is already being physically built! Gosh Darnit, I know the reasoning behind this and all (Toronto: Huge International City, Rochester, NY: Place that would be unknown outside the Northeast if it weren't for the fact it's name is on every KODAK camera.), but it's nuts that the people running the MLS continue to choose cities that have not had as much success as the Rhinos have had here! .....Okay, carry on. i've been to rochester, i've been to toronto. there is no way that rochester should even be mentioned in the same breath as toronto. i'm sorry, but that's the way it is. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 It's offical!!http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/shownews.js...ntent=R111255AU I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Helix- Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Okay, I hate soccer, I hate MLS and I don't care for my local Pro Team (The Rochester Rhinos), but...THE FACT THAT TORONTO GETS A TEAM BEFORE ROCHESTER IS COMPLETE BS! We've had better attendance then the Toronto Lynx AND we actually have a stadium that is already being physically built! Gosh Darnit, I know the reasoning behind this and all (Toronto: Huge International City, Rochester, NY: Place that would be unknown outside the Northeast if it weren't for the fact it's name is on every KODAK camera.), but it's nuts that the people running the MLS continue to choose cities that have not had as much success as the Rhinos have had here! .....Okay, carry on. You're crazy The Toronto area has a population of around 5 million, it's a major media hub, it opens up Canada as a market, they're building a 25,000 seat soccer only stadium, downtown, there's a solid ownership group ready to take over (MLSE), and Toronto is the second most multicultral major city in the world.Rochester has a population of 233,000; it has no appeal outside of the Rochester area; they are building a 17,000-seat soccer stadium downtown.There's your race right there. Agreed.The fact that people think cities should get franchises just because the sport is more popular there is amusing... Rochester in soccer, Winnipeg in hockey.Maybe in a perfect world. But major league sports it's all about the $$$$$$$ and growth potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 *puts flame suit on*Shouldn't the title be MLS to Toronto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon_Matrix Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 I for one can tell you I dobut I'll go to a game when they start playing, I barely go to any sports games and unless the tickets are CHEAP and the team is good, I dobut I will be visiting the place. Now this opens the question of if the Argo's will ever be permitted to play in it, either exhibition or season game. This should be interesting... Because Korbyn Is Colour Blind, My Signature Is Now Idiot Proof - Thanks Again Braden!!Go Leafs Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Okay, I hate soccer, I hate MLS and I don't care for my local Pro Team (The Rochester Rhinos), but...THE FACT THAT TORONTO GETS A TEAM BEFORE ROCHESTER IS COMPLETE BS! We've had better attendance then the Toronto Lynx AND we actually have a stadium that is already being physically built! Gosh Darnit, I know the reasoning behind this and all (Toronto: Huge International City, Rochester, NY: Place that would be unknown outside the Northeast if it weren't for the fact it's name is on every KODAK camera.), but it's nuts that the people running the MLS continue to choose cities that have not had as much success as the Rhinos have had here! .....Okay, carry on. You're crazy The Toronto area has a population of around 5 million, it's a major media hub, it opens up Canada as a market, they're building a 25,000 seat soccer only stadium, downtown, there's a solid ownership group ready to take over (MLSE), and Toronto is the second most multicultral major city in the world.Rochester has a population of 233,000; it has no appeal outside of the Rochester area; they are building a 17,000-seat soccer stadium downtown.There's your race right there. I think the term you're looking for is "soccer-specific" stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 MY guess is that Houston, Seattle, Rochester, Cincinnati, Cleveland, St. Louis, Milwaukee, or Philadelphia could be next in line to get an MLS Expansion Team.*puts on flame suit* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 *puts flame suit on*Shouldn't the title be MLS to Toronto? MLS: Maple Leaf Syndrome..... It's contageous I tell ya..... I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Here's what MLS would look like with 14 Teams (Toronto and another expansion team included):-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------(With Houston):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoColumbusD.C. UnitedKansas CityMetroStarsNew EnglandToronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasHouston (expansion team)Los AngelesReal Salt LakeSan Jose(With Seattle):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoColumbusD.C. UnitedKansas CityMetroStarsNew EnglandToronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasLos AngelesReal Salt LakeSan JoseSeattle (expansion team)(With Cincinnati):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoCincinnati (expansion team)ColumbusD.C. UnitedMetroStarsNew EnglandToronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasKansas CityLos AngelesReal Salt LakeSan Jose(With Cleveland):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoCleveland (expansion team)ColumbusD.C. UnitedMetroStarsNew EnglandToronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasKansas CityLos AngelesReal Salt LakeSan Jose(With St. Louis):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoColumbusD.C. UnitedMetroStarsNew EnglandSt. Louis (expansion team)Toronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasKansas CityLos AngelesReal Salt LakeSan Jose(With Milwaukee):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoColumbusD.C. UnitedMetroStarsMilwaukee (expansion team)New EnglandToronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasKansas CityLos AngelesReal Salt LakeSan Jose(With Philadelphia):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoColumbusD.C. UnitedMetroStarsNew EnglandPhiladelphia (expansion team)Toronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasKansas CityLos AngelesReal Salt LakeSan Jose(With Rochester):EASTERN CONFERENCEChicagoColumbusD.C. UnitedMetroStarsNew EnglandRochester (expansion team)Toronto (expansion team)WESTERN CONFERENCEC.D. Chivas USAColoradoFC DallasKansas CityLos AngelesReal Salt LakeSan Jose-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------What do you think about these alignments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 You just love your hypothetical leagues, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLsportsfan Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 good for toronto i think that they are definately diserving of a soccer team and i cant wait to hear a name so i can see all the concepts everybody makes. i remember a few months ago somebody make a toronto fc concept that was pretty goodanyway, i think helix is spot on when he says that mls doesnt really care to look into how popular the sport is in a certain area. if they did, st. louis would have a team now(there are like 5 players on the national team team from st. louis and the surrounding cities, including MLS MVP taylor twellman). instead they will just throw a team at the largest available market. It worked in some places, it didnt work in others.By the way gamingboy, the Rochester Raging Rhinos are a minor league USL (United Soccer Leagues) team, which actually makes their success even more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 What do you think about these alignments? I think the alignments that have a 2nd team in Ohio - be it in Cleveland or in Cincinnati - are utterly ridiculous, as are the ones with 2 teams in Missouri. Ohio needs a 2nd MLS soccer team the way Hawai'i needs the NHL. The other ones are fairly obvious. I could see Houston.What about Vancouver (BC, not Washington)? It's a large, worldly, international city. And I'd wonder about a city in the southeastern US, like Atlanta, Charlotte or Raleigh. It's where the population is headed, and there are large immigrant populations in those areas from soccer-friendly nations as well as fairly strong youth soccer and collegiate soccer programs. Not sure if they're willing to go back to Florida, which is a shame. "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleujayone Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 My ideas for a name for Toronto's MLS team assuming it needs a European flavor;Golden Horseshoe T.O.Queen City RoversBig Smoke FoxtrotsMaple Leaf GTAand my personal fave-Toronto-Ham Hotspur ......................Otherwise a more North American taste;Toronto TowersToronto BattalionToronto HuskiesToronto BlizzardToronto Great Lakers We all have our little faults. Mine's in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 and my personal fave-Toronto-Ham Hotspur No! No! No! Any slight mention of Hamilton is strictly forbidden As for the name of the team. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the Toronto Blizzard. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleujayone Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Perhaps, but I figure if the MLS already had a bunch of teams with wannabe Europe clubs monikers...DC United/ Machester UnitedReal Salt Lake/ Real MadridRevolution/ ArsenalFC Dallas/ AC Millanthat one more...Toronto-Ham Hotspur/ Tottenham Hotspurcouldn't hurt. Okay, it's a bad pun- kill me already. We all have our little faults. Mine's in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon_Matrix Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Toronto United Football Club!I think it might be something Canada though, cuz it will be the token Canadian team... Because Korbyn Is Colour Blind, My Signature Is Now Idiot Proof - Thanks Again Braden!!Go Leafs Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I think what the MLS should do is go into a region that has a large hispanic outreach, these cities I think should get a team in the MLS, Phoenix, San Antonio, and Houston. These cities are very large hispanic roots and tradition in soccer or Futbol as they like to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 What do you think about these alignments? I think the alignments that have a 2nd team in Ohio - be it in Cleveland or in Cincinnati - are utterly ridiculous, as are the ones with 2 teams in Missouri. Ohio needs a 2nd MLS soccer team the way Hawai'i needs the NHL. The other ones are fairly obvious. I could see Houston.What about Vancouver (BC, not Washington)? It's a large, worldly, international city. And I'd wonder about a city in the southeastern US, like Atlanta, Charlotte or Raleigh. It's where the population is headed, and there are large immigrant populations in those areas from soccer-friendly nations as well as fairly strong youth soccer and collegiate soccer programs. Not sure if they're willing to go back to Florida, which is a shame. THe way I see it, you're right about Ohio getting another MLS team; and if they do, it will possibly be in Cleveland. I also agree with you about Houston, Vancouver, BC, Atlanta, and the two North Carolina cities (Charlotte & Raleigh-Durham). But what about Milwaukee and Philadelphia? Both cities are also good options for an MLS expansion team. Besides, they, like Houston, have proposed stadiums for potential expansion franchises. As for Florida, well, there's probably no chance that the MLS will return to Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 You know what would be a good name for the Toronto MLS franchise?Inter Toronto United FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon_Matrix Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I think what the MLS should do is go into a region that has a large hispanic outreach, these cities I think should get a team in the MLS, Phoenix, San Antonio, and Houston. These cities are very large hispanic roots and tradition in soccer or Futbol as they like to say it. There is a GIANT European and hispanic population here in Toronto, so as long as the soccer is good, people will come to it. Because Korbyn Is Colour Blind, My Signature Is Now Idiot Proof - Thanks Again Braden!!Go Leafs Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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