CC97 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 If there's one thing I dislike about the current Major League Baseball playoff system it's that for the wild-card you have teams playing different schedules competing against each other for the same title... Same standings should be same schedules, in my opinion, the best way to make sure you're actually getting the best team of the bunch in first place.This is where my "whacky idea" comes into play, and I'm not sure but I think european football does something similar.Keep in mind I am aware this will never get used, I'm just looking for a "that's not a bad idea... for a league just starting up" type response Division standings are determined by games played against teams in your own division only... the best team against the other teams in its own division wins the division championship (makes sense to me).With that set up, wild-card standings are determined by games played against teams NOT in your division... this is where every team has the same schedule ('cept interleague play), the best team against non-division clubs wins the wild card. Either we do that, or make the wild-card standings based off of global results.Am I nuts? Eh, probably... this is all stemming because I've noticed my team usually being the best intradivision team in the al east yet always finishing well behind the top 2.Current MLB standings under my idea:AL EastTor 27-18Bos 25-19NYY 21-15Bal 16-25TB 19-31AL CentralDet 32-14Chi 22-18Cle 21-25Min 18-24KC 13-25AL WestOak 17-12Tex 12-10LAA 14-13Sea 10-18AL Wildcard (div not incl)Min 42-19Bos 37-22NYY 40-26Sea 41-35AL Wildcard (div incl)Bos 62-41NYY 61-41Chi 61-42Min 60-43NL EastNYM 26-12Phi 18-17Wsh 18-20Atl 18-23Fla 17-25NL CentralCin 31-24Chi 29-24Hou 21-20Mil 24-27Stl 21-24Pit 15-22NL WestAri 23-17SF 21-20LA 21-21SD 20-22Col 19-24NL Wildcard (div not incl)Stl 37-22SD 35-28NL Wildcard (div incl)Stl 58-46SD 55-50SF 51-54C'mon... you know you love it --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopsis Joe Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 No. Why?Well, just because the Jays can beat teams in their own division doesn't mean that they can beat the (City Team) that's good that year.In other words: Just because you can beat the D-Rays, doesn't mean you can beat the White Sox to get to the World Series. I don't speak for democrats, democrats don't speak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 My wacky idea would be having more than 4 teams from a league after 162 games. Wait, that's not wacky at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 CC, my fear would be that your system could lead to a lot of meaningless games for top teams. Example: the Mets have the NL East pretty much locked up, and aren't really part of the wild card picture. So their interdivision games are basically exhibitions, which could lead to cheap victories for their opponents. Same with the second place team in a division with a clear front runner. Their intradivision games are meaningless, because they don't have a shot at a division title.Usually only the second-division teams play meaningless games after the ASB, but I think your plan may lead to more meaningless games even for the top teams. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 CC, my fear would be that your system could lead to a lot of meaningless games for top teams. Example: the Mets have the NL East pretty much locked up, and aren't really part of the wild card picture. So their interdivision games are basically exhibitions, which could lead to cheap victories for their opponents. Same with the second place team in a division with a clear front runner. Their intradivision games are meaningless, because they don't have a shot at a division title.Usually only the second-division teams play meaningless games after the ASB, but I think your plan may lead to more meaningless games even for the top teams. Ah, very very true. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Ugh. That's just wrong.My idea? Ditch the wild-card altogether. Give the team in each league with the best record an incentive by making them the "#1 seed" and giving them a 'bye' in the first round. Have the other two division champs slug it out in an LDS, with the winner meeting the #1 seed in the LCS.I mean c'mon: does a team that can't win more games than 4, at most 5 other teams, really deserve to qualify for the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mings Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 that's not a bad idea... for a league just starting up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 that's not a bad idea... for a league just starting up Thank you --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suigi Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 My wacky idea would be having more than 4 teams from a league after 162 games. Wait, that's not wacky at all. Same.Expand the playoffs! Super Wario Comix!Iron Crossover IX Contender (Tied for 6th)Iron Crossover Halloween Contender (Tied for Bronze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Ugh. That's just wrong.My idea? Ditch the wild-card altogether. Give the team in each league with the best record an incentive by making them the "#1 seed" and giving them a 'bye' in the first round. Have the other two division champs slug it out in an LDS, with the winner meeting the #1 seed in the LCS.I mean c'mon: does a team that can't win more games than 4, at most 5 other teams, really deserve to qualify for the playoffs? Byes only work for football. The reason why is because football is a once a week sport and the playoffs are single elimination. Because teams get a bye week during the season they are used to that time off to where it doesn't hurt the better team that much. Baseball is an every day sport. A team gets a bye for the first round they get 8 days off if the first round is a best of 5. That's going to throw the team out of routine. Batters are going to be rusty because they haven't faced MLB pitching speed in a week. That gives a huge advantage to the team who didn't have a bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logodawg Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 My wacky idea would be having more than 4 teams from a league after 162 games. Wait, that's not wacky at all. Same.Expand the playoffs! Um, no. 4 teams is perfect for the MLB. If the baseball season was shorter, like the NHL or NBA, then sure. But the 162 game season offers more than chances to make up for flukes. I once had a car but I crashed it. I once had a guitar but I smashed it. I once, wait where am I going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 You'll come up with anything to get the Jays in the playoffs huh? On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 You'll come up with anything to get the Jays in the playoffs huh? When you finish behind the same 2 teams every year for 13 straight seasons you get a little nutty --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 The MLB playoffs to me is like asking 30 guys to get kicked in the balls 162 times and the first 8 people who can stand up get to play roshambo for immortality.The thing that saddens me about the MLB is that the season is at least twice as long as every other league but the fewest teams of all leagues make the playoffs. And when you have a division where the top two teams are always going to be the same cause they can't stop having the world's most expensive pissing contest, it resonates harshly in the cities of the other teams in that division because their fanbases are so much smaller and spawn much less revenue.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 The thing that saddens me about the MLB is that the season is at least twice as long as every other league but the fewest teams of all leagues make the playoffs. No, that's exactly how it should be. With 162 games to prove themselves, you shouldn't put half the major leagues in the postseason. Think of the late-season pennant races as playoff prelims. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Baseball is an every day sport. A team gets a bye for the first round they get 8 days off if the first round is a best of 5. That's going to throw the team out of routine. Batters are going to be rusty because they haven't faced MLB pitching speed in a week. That gives a huge advantage to the team who didn't have a bye. Oh? Four teams participate in a best of 7 series, using a typical MLB schedule format:SERIES "A":Game 1 - SundayGame 2 - MondayGame 3 - WednesdayGame 4 - ThursdayGame 5 - SaturdayGame 6 - SundayGame 7 - MondaySERIES "B":Game 1 - MondayGame 2 - TuesdayGame 3 - ThursdayGame 4 - FridayGame 5 - SundayGame 6 - MondayGame 7 - WednesdayIn Series "A", one team wipes out the other in four straight. In Series "B", the series goes the full 7 games before a winner's determined. Under MLB scheduling practices, the series between them wouldn't start until Friday - by which time the Series "A" winner has had 8 days off.While your statement is logical in theory, in practice its already in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 The thing that saddens me about the MLB is that the season is at least twice as long as every other league but the fewest teams of all leagues make the playoffs. No, that's exactly how it should be. With 162 games to prove themselves, you shouldn't put half the major leagues in the postseason. Think of the late-season pennant races as playoff prelims. I agree. If anything, basketball and hockey playoff qualification should be harder... no more than 8 teams from each.You should have to earn your way in it to win it.And there should be one automatic rule across all sports - if your team can't muster at least a .501 winning percentage, regardless of the sport, no playoffs for you even if you win your division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJMorris3 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I again say they should weaken the Wild Card by adding two Wild Card teams, to play a best of three to have the right to play the #1 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwtrailtrekker Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 wait one minute...threads concerning realignment of divisions or playoff brackets tend to get...graveyarded...dont they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pflava Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think they should keep four teams from each league. However, I'd seed based on records. Or, I'd make the wildcard team play 4 of it's 5 LDS games on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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