Washington Redskins Redesign

[Cola]

I have to admit that I am not much of an NFL fan for various reasons. College football is where it is at for me. However, if I had to claim a team during my lifetime- it would be the Washington Redskins. When growing up, they were always televised...so it was all I knew. About the same reason I pull for UNC basketball when most South Carolina alumni can't stomach the university.

Anyhow, the logo. There were a few things I have never liked about Washington's set:

- including the actual skin tone of the subject in the logo.

- black. never has seemed necessary to me. burgundy takes care of anything black could.

- too many feathers in the logo; feathers on the Redskin and feathers on the circle.

- the general "portrait" depiction of the Redskin figure

- the indifference of the guy in the logo; doesn't seem angry or sad.

These are the things I have attempted to correct while adding a bit of my own flare to the logo.

Note: Don't care about your stance on Native American logos, I respectfully ask you to keep it out of the thread.

C&C always appreciated.

[bohob]

As much as I can't stand the Redskins moniker, this is well done. The top of the head could bubble out a little more. Also the cheek should move forward. Finally, there's a point at the bottom of the chin that reads like a goatee, which I don't think belongs. I do like what you've emphasized in your edits. Aside from those few tweaks, it good.

[CJworks]

I think you could throw more facial features in there, maybe give it some wrinkles and such. Looks a little sad though, but that shouldn't be too hard to fix.

[Cola]

A white Indian, now you've lost me!

Florida State has been doing it for years!

[ThePonderer]

Good rebrand. But, definitely fix the chin and facial expression a little bit. He does appear to be a bit sad. My first thoughts were this when I saw your logo:

Anyone even remember this commercial?

[JayJaxon]

I think a little more detail on the face and feathers would make this thing look tons better. It is a great start but a little more detail will go a long way with this one.

[Cola]

Update.

- removed chin area that appeared to be a goatee to some

- slightly shifted eyes forward, wanted to keep them looking upward since the head is tilted that direction

- lowered and forwarded the jaw

- adjusted mouth area to appear less "sad"

- added hair line

- showed helmet options

- played with vegas gold option

[ThePonderer]

Your updates look great. I don't know about the hairline thing, but other than that I think it's got good potential.

[Moseph]

You did a great job making your logo, but as a Skins fan, I personally wouldn't want that logo. I think there is nothing wrong with the current logo.

[Brave-Bird 08]

this logo still looks sad to me

[Cola]

this logo still looks sad to me

What do you suggest to make it more "mean" without adding too many details to overkill the logo? I felt sharp facial features would convey anger, and the mouth area is tricky without adding teeth or some kind of grimace like the FSU logo has.

[Cola]

You did a great job making your logo, but as a Skins fan, I personally wouldn't want that logo. I think there is nothing wrong with the current logo.

I just feel the current logo is severely outdated...mainly, I think including the skin color of the figure in the logo really dates it. The double placement of feathers is my 2nd biggest peeve.

[Moseph]

I have always liked the double feathers. I have seen concepts where they left the logo the same but too off the outer set of feathers and it just doesn't look right.

[OrangeBalloonCoast]

looks good, but it needs more chin and higher cheekbones

[Buster]

Nice try. I appreciate keeping the Indian head logo, but the current one just looks better. Maybe with thinner lines and more detail it could work, it just looks too cartoonish.

[54Chevy]

looks good, but it needs more chin and higher cheekbones

i second the cheekbone comment. higher and forward some.

also, the sad look is a result of the mouth being pouty, and the eyes looking upward, as if holding back tears.

maybe try eliminating the gold, and filling the eye in completely for a shadow look.

[ralphz]

I like where you're going with this. I'll echo the 'higher cheekbone' comments.

The only thing I'd add is I think the feathers need to be a bit bigger ... or hang down lower. Just so they can stand in better for the current double set of feathers.

Otherwise, a nice update.

[VC//]

Dude looks sad.

[JackFr]

Dude looks sad.

Agreed. The second I see that logo my impression is that he's pouting. I suggest making it so that the eyes aren't looking up and remove the emphasis on his lower lip.