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  1. It literally means that you failed to win your division, but were still "pretty good." I don't disagree that making the playoffs is tougher in MLB than in other sports, but that still doesn't make it a 'championship', or an achievement worth immortalizing on a banner. You're literally celebrating second (or now, maybe even third) place.
  2. That's literally a participation trophy. It symbolizes both the failure to win the division, and a failure to win in the playoffs. EDIT: I just noticed that TOR's 2016 banner says "WILD CARD" and "ALDS CHAMPs" They're lying, and creating titles that don't exist. Sorry - you don't get a banner that year.
  3. Especially since there's literally on such thing... and can't be a thing called "DS Champs". They're the "Toronto vs Baltimore Series Champs", but by definition, if there's two DSs then there can't be a DS champion. It only matters if you win the highest title that you possibly can for any period of time. Division champ is fine. League champ is fine. World Series champ is fine. Wild Card champion? 1) there's no such thing, 2) you're celebrating that you were good, but not quite good enough to win your division? DUMB. ALDS champion? 1) there's no such thing. It's impossible to exist. 'Finalist'? 1) to be a 'finalist', you won something else. Just celebrate that, and not draw attention to the fact that you lost when it mattered.
  4. Do they really need the redundancy of “AL” “AL”DS champs? It makes something that’s inherently stupid even more stupid. They’re not a stupid franchise, so this seems pretty odd.
  5. Is moving from radio to TV always considered a promotion? I look at them as two different jobs.
  6. Sure it can be... even if in this case it's not.
  7. Splitting up Phila / NYM, and Cubs/StL is a bad plan. Phillies and Pirates don’t need to be in the same division. I don’t think a NSEW alignment works well, but if you insist, then move PGH to N, NYM to E, CIN to S, and STL to N.
  8. Back on topic (if that's possible anymore): Do the Rays cost MLB money? I assume they don't contribute much to the revenue-sharing pool, but is there really a cost benefit for MLB to move them? They can't be losing money, or costing MLB, right? Where I'm going is that if Montreal is serious about having a team again, then MLB could be costing themselves $500M in expansion fees by moving a team there rather than expanding. That's another reason why the two-city thing seems like the worst option from an MLB standpoint. If the Rays were to flat-out move, then MLB could try to extract a large relocation fee to make up for the lost expansion fee. But the half-season thing doesn't seem to benefit anyone.
  9. Are there any American sports rivalries where the rivalry between cities does matter? Boston and NY aren't "rivals", because they're not competing for attention or to be the cultural or economic center. It's just sports. Boston could have a rivalry with Philadelphia, but to my knowledge doesn't. I don't see any way in which St. Louis and Chicago are rivals outside the context of sports. Maybe NY has one with LA over being the entertainment or media capital of the country? Maybe the CA cities do? DAL/HOU? IDK. I don't see any American rivalries that would be based on anything as deep as what the TOR/MTL one is.
  10. “In a world in which we are free to implement perfect solutions to problems that were avoidable but happened anyway.”
  11. In a perfect world, that's the best solution - I suggested as much a few pages ago - but there's myriad reasons it's impossible, one of which being Miami's investment in the Marlins stadium, two being Tampa/St. Pete's reluctance to build a new stadium. The true "Florida" Marlins in AL East would be great, but...
  12. Maybach isn't a thing anymore? One of the condo buildings near me offers free use of a Maybach with driver... wonder what they're doing now.
  13. Vlad was neither a FA nor an African American, but rather a Dominican. I only draw the distinction because being an immigrant or playing on a visa in the states vs going to Canada is like Gala to Fuji if the alternative is staying in DR and living in poverty, while for a "native" African American, LA or NY vs MTL might be like Gala to Naval. Not just because of race, because that could be a factor anywhere (though we don't see flocks of great AA players going to any of those places you mentioned in non-capped sports... specifically the PNW, MIN, MIL, etc.) but I've just observed that (and maybe it's just recently with the Kawhi Leonard thing that's sticking in my brain) going to Canada seems equivalent to going to Mars for some people, and if TOR is Mars, then MTL might as well be Jupiter. Again, I'm putting words and feelings into people that may not even have them, just having the discussion - but there might not even be a discussion to be had. At the end of the day, I'd rank money over winning, rather than how you had it. There's definitely been some recent cases of guys taking a little less to play somewhere they wanted to be vs somewhere else, but it's usually not a ton less, and it's usually to a place with an equal chance of winning (Cliff Lee to the Phillies in '11 after turning down more from NYY is an example), but nobody is signing with a hot TB Rays team for less than a struggling Mets team would pay them.
  14. My guess is there would be some reel line mint, if not at first, but eventually. I think I said this before, but it's killing multiple birds with one stone: 1) Marlins to AL East, where their attendance woud get a boost from Red Sox and Yankees games, and 2) MTL to NL East, where they'd get their old rivals back, and get a boost (if needed, and presumably) from road-tripping NY and Phila fans. They'd also be more competitive in this scenario. I think all parties involved would jump at this scenario.
  15. Maybe 8 years time... unless that buyout shrinks a bit every year. In the video that you posted it was said that part of breaking the lease early would be that they'd have to fund the demo, in addition to any financial buyouts. What is not known, is if it's a compulsory lease (I forget the legal term) that requires them to operate there, regardless of if they just pay the lease off and attempt to operate elsewhere, like most leases are.
  16. Did the Expos really ever compete for good free agents? Is it fair to ask whether they'd be at a disadvantage for recruiting any star African American players without dramatically overpaying? I don't think Latin American players would be an issue - in fact some might prefer it, at least for the next 1-5 years, and I don't think most white American-born players would have any issue, as it's a great place despite presenting some extra challenges for their families that might move with them, but would AA players really go for it considering they'd be putting themselves in situations where they're more of a minority than they are anywhere in the states, and from things that I've read (not witnessed personally) it's not known for embracing racial diversity? Is it fair to ask that, and is it a fair concern? It might be a moot point, since the results of a google search for black MLB players shocked me when I saw how few there were, but the ability to draw FA's in a non-capped sport is usually one of the first things on my mind once the other hurdles (basic start-up) prove to be workable (which, so far, they haven't in MTL's case.) In capped sports, it doesn't matter as much, since there's limited money to go around and any player will follow the money anywhere, but baseball is different.
  17. Easy to say when you're not the one facing the problem. "I'm leaving work at 4 so I can drive two hours to save my team and then get home at close to 1AM and be crappy at work the next day" simply isn't reasonable. Your example of traveling to Packers games 7 times a year isn't even in the same ballpark of what we're talking about here. While I'm not facing it either, my gut reaction would be to say FU and not waste my time. Of course, this move is so unlikely to happen, and the most likely situation is them staying put for the next 8 years, so it's kind of a moot point.
  18. Him making multiple 4-hour trips, on weeknights, is relevant to saving his team. If anything, it's just going to create more grief since he'd be investing more into a relationship that's just going to end with him being a cuckhold watching his wife slurp down some stylish french canadian's rock hard pastrami.
  19. Announced attendance is "tickets sold", not "attendance", and obviously most of those tickets were probably sold before the announcement.
  20. The regional Florida team is probably the best solution, though it’s impossible considering what Miami did for the Marlins in exchange for rebranding themselves as “Miami’s team”.
  21. Here’s the rule - if either a qualifier is required, or the title doesn’t end in “winner” or “champion”, then it should be on a banner. Also, while technically meeting the above criteria, “wild card winner” or even “wild card champion” doesn’t deserve a banner.
  22. Right in your colon... or maybe even an intestine - whichever is the lower one. Maybe if we have a dr in the forum, he/she can advise. I’m not saying 100% to eliminate the brand, but it should be an option, and it shouldn’t be considered too sacred to retire it. Is that true though? Do green and gold really mean anything to some city that’s known for some other distinct color scheme? Some other city might genuinely value the history of the franchise, and that’s great, but some other one may feel it’s easier to market a more local identity to their fans
  23. So would all of you "SPORTS is real and a cultural institution that must be preserved at all costs damn the fans that we're preserving it for" be OK with the Montreal Athletics? Or the Pittsburgh Pelicans? I'll give you that the A's have been around forever, but have they really? As far as I'm concerned, they're not the same team as the Philadelphia A's, they're not the KC A's, they're the Reggie Jackson, Dave Stewart, Dennis Eckersley, Tony Larussa, Bash Bros A's. I don't really care what your record book says. I know that they're the same team and share the lineage, but IMHO except under the most extreme circumstances, a team should rebrand when they move - and I'll even go one further - the league should issue a new "franchise" paper, officially starting a new lineage (with the option to reactivate the old one in the future.) I've done a 180 on this one. I used to hate the Cleveland deal, but then I've put myself in the Dawg Pound's shoes, and would I root for the Cleveland Jaguars? It's just a reminder that it's not my team. Would "Baltimore Browns" make any sense to a reasonable person that's just getting into the sport? No - it's absurd. The Raiders? Sure - that's a brand that other cities want, and one that kinda goes hand in hand with moving around and bucking the system. Should Mark Davis be obligated to keep it? If the fans in LV don't want it, then no. But in this case it makes sense. So shove this "bad take" up your ass - there's no reason to be obligated to hold on to a team name when it doesn't make sense.
  24. This forum doesn’t represent the opinions of anyone outside of its members when it comes to any topic. My anecdotal evidence from “average Joe” is that the expos were a joke that played in a lousy-crumbling stadium. “Average Joe” doesn’t realize that they moved to DC. That doesn’t necessarily represent the majority either.
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