The_Admiral Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 7 hours ago, OnWis97 said: But the perception among the suburban fanbase would be that it's better. I could see that helping the suburban cause. This is the approach to Arlington Park from the east. If you are coming from Evanston, Wilmette,, Winnetka, or thereabouts, where season ticketholders are likely to live because Bears tickets are expensive, this is the road that you would probably take to get there. It's a medium/heavy arterial from the North Shore to here but two lanes most of the way through downtown Arlington Heights to the track and the houses along it are old, big, or old and big, making it impossible to widen without pissing everyone off or destroying homes with historic markers. I'm thinking of framing this picture because it's the first time since the pandemic that I've seen Euclid Avenue not backed up to hell at 4 in the afternoon. "Well, what about when the track was there?" Yeah, it was really chaotic and awful, and that was with crowds of like one-fifth the size. 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 How high is the chance that the Cubs and fans thereof (especially Cubs fans in high places in the Chicago city and/or Cook County and/or Illinois state governments) will fight hard against government funding for a new ballpark for the White Sox? Unless I am mistaken, Tom Ricketts and his family tried and failed to extract government funds for the "1060 Project" to renovate Wrigley Field and instead ended up spending their own money on the renovation. Therefore, I can imagine that the Cubbies and many of their fans would be especially livid over the Pale Hose extracting any (let alone a lot of) taxpayer dollars to build a new home field in the South Loop or even renovate their existing venue on 35th Street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowler2 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 35 minutes ago, The_Admiral said: This is the approach to Arlington Park from the east. If you are coming from Evanston, Wilmette,, Winnetka, or thereabouts, where season ticketholders are likely to live because Bears tickets are expensive, this is the road that you would probably take to get there. It's a medium/heavy arterial from the North Shore to here but two lanes most of the way through downtown Arlington Heights to the track and the houses along it are old, big, or old and big, making it impossible to widen without pissing everyone off or destroying homes with historic markers. I'm thinking of framing this picture because it's the first time since the pandemic that I've seen Euclid Avenue not backed up to hell at 4 in the afternoon. "Well, what about when the track was there?" Yeah, it was really chaotic and awful, and that was with crowds of like one-fifth the size. Reminds me of the neighborhoods that surround Lambeau. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Yeah, little bit, except instead of worshiping the Packers, Arlington Heights just worships itself. 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 16 hours ago, The_Admiral said: This is the approach to Arlington Park from the east. If you are coming from Evanston, Wilmette,, Winnetka, or thereabouts, where season ticketholders are likely to live because Bears tickets are expensive, this is the road that you would probably take to get there. It's a medium/heavy arterial from the North Shore to here but two lanes most of the way through downtown Arlington Heights to the track and the houses along it are old, big, or old and big, making it impossible to widen without pissing everyone off or destroying homes with historic markers. I'm thinking of framing this picture because it's the first time since the pandemic that I've seen Euclid Avenue not backed up to hell at 4 in the afternoon. "Well, what about when the track was there?" Yeah, it was really chaotic and awful, and that was with crowds of like one-fifth the size. Fun fact: I actually took that route through Arlington Heights en route to setting up a mobile scanner at the Northwest Community Healthcare Center. Skinned a couple twigs off some of the trees in the process, and I'm sure some noticed the trail of leaves left behind in that scanner's wake. 1 Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 minutes ago, tBBP said: Fun fact: I actually took that route through Arlington Heights en route to setting up a mobile scanner at the Northwest Community Healthcare Center. I'm sorry. Your commemorative pin's in the mail. I was talking to some people the other day about the surrounding infrastructure just generally not being up to the task and one guy kept coming back to the train station and how that would make it easier "for everyone." It occurred to me that people from the exurbs might actually not understand how trains work. I think they think the rail system is just a separate plane of expressways rather than something with fixed routes and schedules. That is, anywhere you've ever seen a train station, you can just take a left here and a right there and pull up in Rolling Meadows in time for the game. Maybe a Lincoln Yards stadium would have worked after all. I pass through there about once a month and it's still an industrial wasteland. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Maybe this is me showing that I don't know how trains work, but if you can build a Metra station at the Roosevelt yard the same way there's one at its counterpart Western yard, then that grants access to everyone coming in on the south Union Station lines, which includes the all-important BNSF through southern DuPage, where, as I've said, Bears ticketholders tend to live. Could Amtrak make special stops there on gamedays? I don't want to get ahead of myself. Then you have a short trip on the Green Line for anyone coming to Union Station from the north end or from Ogilvie. Modest walk from Museum Campus for our Electric Line friends. The fact that government seems to be not letting Jerry Reinsdorf do whatever he wants makes me wonder if maybe they know Roosevelt/Clark is more necessary for the Bears than it is for the Sox. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/7/2024 at 11:03 AM, OnWis97 said: If I take everything I read at face value, most MLB teams need to flee their urban hellscapes. The Twins, Mariners, Giants, Dodgers, and Cardinals, just to name a few, better get to the suburbs or roll the dice on smaller markets. Don't you know thatMinneapolis is still burning and a war zone? At least that's what my relatives from outstate that only ever go to Fargo and Sioux Falls say. I for one can corroborate. Please don't move here so the housing prices stay reasonable Also,typing on mobile still isn't fixed? Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 18 hours ago, BottomlessPitt said: Reminds me of the neighborhoods that surround Lambeau. Confirmed - my typical tailgate location 1 1 Quote It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 45 minutes ago, GhostOfNormMacdonald said: On 2/7/2024 at 11:03 AM, OnWis97 said: If I take everything I read at face value, most MLB teams need to flee their urban hellscapes. The Twins, Mariners, Giants, Dodgers, and Cardinals, just to name a few, better get to the suburbs or roll the dice on smaller markets. Don't you know thatMinneapolis is still burning and a war zone? At least that's what my relatives from outstate that only ever go to Fargo and Sioux Falls say. I for one can corroborate. Please don't move here so the housing prices stay reasonable Also,typing on mobile still isn't fixed? Lmao Responding on mobile. No problem here. Maybe it's you? 1 Quote It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Living in proximity to Lambeau, practically in its shadow, must be so weird. It's the sports world's closest thing to a company town. Undesirable. 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, The_Admiral said: Living in proximity to Lambeau, practically in its shadow, must be so weird. It's the sports world's closest thing to a company town. Undesirable. Except you know it's there before you move there. You choose to live there, so it is desirable. 2 Quote It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Like @Sec19Row53 I am typing this on mobile (Android phone) no problems on my end 2 Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 21 hours ago, BottomlessPitt said: Reminds me of the neighborhoods that surround Lambeau. I quickly googled "Lambeau Field neighborhood". You ain't lying Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 South Side Sox: Analysis: Won’t be fun to watch the White Sox this year, but the lies about The 78 should be amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 "5 million fans" is a whopper. The Cubs and Wrigley are world-famous and at their best they draw 3 million. I'm all in on this being the site for a new Bears stadium. It's the only outcome that resembles making sense. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 31 minutes ago, The_Admiral said: "5 million fans" is a whopper. The Cubs and Wrigley are world-famous and at their best they draw 3 million. I'm all in on this being the site for a new Bears stadium. It's the only outcome that resembles making sense. 5 million fans across 81 games a year would require a stadium capacity of nearly 62k, nearly 6k more than Dodger Stadium, which is the largest baseball (specific) stadium in the world. 1 Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 6 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said: Confirmed - my typical tailgate location Late, but having been there twice (but not getting to see an actual game yet), I thought this was just about the strangest thing when I rolled up on Lambeau the first time, not knowing what to expect, and certainly not expecting to find a whole residential neighborhood built around it...I mean literally to the point where some people's back fences back up on the parking lot. (And that's for the yards that even have a back fence...a few of them don't, which means those folks can walk right out their back door, through their backyard and right on into the lot.) The only other experience I can think of (that I've personally seen) that comes somewhat close is the Timbers' arena in Portland. Of course the major difference there is house height...just about all the houses that surround Lambeau are one-story, so it cuts an even more imposing silhouette into the streetscape. 1 Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 The old Colisee abutted a modest residential neighborhood. I remember watching some CBC story on the Nordiques where they panned from kids playing street hockey outside some stocky '50s two-flats to the arena itself, which was across the main road at the end of the street. I don't think you get the same effect with the Centre Videotron because it's a little deeper into the parking lot. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Orchard Park's somewhat like Green Bay in that sense of having a stadium in the middle of a residential area, but it is a bit more open between US Routes 20 and 20A where the stadium is Quote Twitter: @RyanMcD29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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