Ez Street Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 According to the article today in the Cap-Journal, a new logo is supposed to be released next week. that was fast.The "W" logo is mainly used by Washburn's football and basketball team and is on the university's basketball court and football field. Farley said a new logo will be released early next week, likely incorporating changes to the W's shape and the university name.Time to replace a lot of stuff....They just installed this field a few years ago.Even these will have to change in Yager Stadium.It will be time for a new floor at Lee Arena. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 They better watch out the "W" in the Washburn Endowment logo looks a little like the W (or M) in William & Mary's new word mark. It's pretty easy to avoid these problems - tell your designers not to start with somebody else's EPS files. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no97 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The high school I do play-by-play for (Bemidji, MN) opened their football season against Willmar HS (MN), and they used the "Motion W" (they had it on their helmets, and I was told they have it on most of their sports uniforms). I commented on my broadcast that Wisconsin has gone after schools that use their logo, and I wouldn't be surprised if WHS gets a call down the line...Moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 Timeline set for Washburn University to clear trademarked symbol from campus.Here's a look at the exit strategy for the "W":Football fieldUse of the " W" marked on the football field must end by Jan. 1, 2015. The only surviving "W's" will be those permanently marked on a surface, such as inscribed in metal fixtures.Football helmetThe "W" can't be used on helmets next school year. As of Aug. 31, 2010, it is to be removed from team uniforms. WU's football and basketball teams were the primary users of the "W".Lee Arena"W's" on the basketball court must be changed by Jan. 1, 2014.Any other "W's" painted on campus surfaces must be removed by Jan. 1, 2012.Bookstore itemsWashburn has six months to sell off its current "W" inventory of more than 3,000 items of apparel and other goods.After that, the inventory must be destroyed.Enjoy that curvy "W" while it lasts.Over the next five and a half years, the "W" that gently slopes like the rolling Flint Hills will gradually be banished from campus as part of a lawsuit settlement with the University of Wisconsin-Madison, which complained that the "Washburn W" looked too much like its "Motion W."To avoid any future confusion, the thick "Washburn W" used by some sports teams will be straightened on top and bottom and "rise at an angle no greater than nine degrees above plane." And just in case people are still confused, the "W" won't be allowed to stand alone, so expect it to be accompanied by the word "Washburn" or that top-hat-wearing Ichabod. President Jerry Farley said he expects to unveil a new "W" next week.The universities have been wrangling over the letter for at least six years with Washburn making previous changes. Now, removing the letter logo will cost $200,000 to $500,000, said Washburn spokeswoman Dena Anson.Before the settlement, the university had spent $132,000 on litigation, and Farley on Tuesday said the university faced a far bigger bill if it had decided to take the case to trial.Under the settlement, Washburn will pay nothing to UW-Madison."The situation I was facing was the cost of litigation for a trial was going to be very, very high," he said.Washburn is to stop using any "W" that could be confused with the "Motion W" on new products or promotions, but it has time to make the "W's" extinction final.The settlement document called for the agreement to remain confidential. However, the settlement was obtained by The Capital-Journal on Wednesday through a Kansas Open Records Act request. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Can we wrap up this excellent discussion with one more mention about how much the "motion W" blows? Â http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Can we wrap up this excellent discussion with one more mention about how much the "motion W" blows? I'll bite.It blows. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Bingo. An easy upgrade over the Motion W, and no thieving required.Even the new Ichabod is an improvement over the stolen W:Reminds me oof the San Diego Toreros trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 Bingo. An easy upgrade over the Motion W, and no thieving required.Even the new Ichabod is an improvement over the stolen W:Reminds me oof the San Diego TorerosNot seeing it. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Can we wrap up this excellent discussion with one more mention about how much the "motion W" blows? I'll bite.It blows. Different tastes I guess - I happen to love how it looks on their helmet. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I'll admit that it works in that context.It fails as a logo for me in that it looks awkward everywhere else it's used. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quantum Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 How bad can it be? Others keep lifting it for themselves. Even backwards, the motion W works OK for a helmet. If they would restrict the use to football, I think it is fine. All other uses seems a bit forced. "One of my concerns is shysters show up and take advantage of people's good will and generosity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 Found some Washburn stuff with some different logos on a website for a local chain store.I've seen this "W" on about two items before at the store. It's not an offical mark of the school, but maybe it's a new one... @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 How bad can it be? Others keep lifting it for themselves. Even backwards, the motion W works OK for a helmet. If they would restrict the use to football, I think it is fine. All other uses seems a bit forced.I'd say so long as they restrict to the helmet alone, it's fine.But even something as simple as moving it to a coach's polo shirt, and it's bad. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I've seen this "W" on about two items before at the store. It's not an offical mark of the school, but maybe it's a new one...Kinda hard to tell with that printing, but it looks nice. Maybe Wisconsin would be interested in a straight-up swap? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 Looks like the same "W" as this one..... @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 How bad can it be? Others keep lifting it for themselves. Even backwards, the motion W works OK for a helmet. If they would restrict the use to football, I think it is fine. All other uses seems a bit forced.I'd say so long as they restrict to the helmet alone, it's fine.But even something as simple as moving it to a coach's polo shirt, and it's bad.There's that, of course, but I also hate it because it doesn't work without the black, and black is not one of their colors. More specifically, even if you say black trim can work anywhere (and a lot of sports teams seem to think so), why does it only appear in that one place? To me, that's just lazy design. Design a "W" without black (that would be my preference) or add black trim to the uniform (a cheap solution, but there you go). Â http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I think it could work as well without the black drop-shadow, but you're right. It's the Kansas City Chiefs problem in the NFL.Wisconsin did try to give the numbers the same effect, but the experiment was short-lived.But as for Washburn, I think either of these versions would look pretty good on a football helmet: The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 Further proof they already had something designed....Straight from the Washburn Bookstore Website.I like the new look. I sure hope this is the real new look. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 See, that's a fine look.They should have just gone to a designer in the beginning. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez Street Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 See, that's a fine look.They should have just gone to a designer in the beginning.Agreed.I like the addition of the sky blue, Washburn used to feature that color back in the 80's. @DavidStreeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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