Lady ref ejected from game

[EatSleepJeep]

All you need to know about this is:

Kansas.

Just because it's a private school does not give it the right to discriminate based on gender. No organization can discriminate on the big 3: race, creed & gender.

[Ez Street]

All you need to know about this is:

Kansas.

I'm sorry that is an asinine comment.

I love how people view the entire state as being this "Red" state, with bigoted, small minded individuals. We have a female democrat as govenor, as well as a democrat congresswoman.

It's like saying, everyone in New York City is a Yankees fan....

I sure as hell wouldn't say the people in Iowa are all corn-fed idiots.

Instead of accusing my state of being small-minded, perhaps you should take a look at your own position.

Oh and by the way, it wasn't right for the school to hide behind the whole "we are a private school, we can do what we please." God knows, we've seen this before.

I need not bring back any Fuzzy Zoeller reference to remind you about OTHER states and their issues with african-americans and private golf courses. It's not right for them either.

[BB61]

Yeah, I don't think it's a matter of location. It's just a case of being a close minded person.

What you do in that case is you call whoever runs the league, and explain to them the situation. That person then tells the AD, look, this is who is assigned to the game. If you can't accept that, then you forfeit. Simple as that.

Officials are officials. They are put in that position because they've earned the right to be there. Someone thinks that they're doing a good job, Even if they aren't (which goes for just about 80% of MLB umpires, but that's a different rant). It has nothing to do with gender. No one outside of the league should be allowed to dictate the officials.

[jtthasportfreak]

...from Blue Laser "Never doubted you were a lady sir, uh, ma'am"

[Chief.]

All you need to know about this is:

Kansas.

Just because it's a private school does not give it the right to discriminate based on gender. No organization can discriminate on the big 3: race, creed & gender.

It's not JUST Kansas, you know. We're not all bigoted, closed-minded idiots here. As Jimmy Buffett once said, "Those crumbs are spread all over this world."

[FiddySicks]

I would really like to hear from someone who lives near the Topeka area. Are people really that insanely illogical when it comes to religious issues? I mean come on, this, Westboro Baptist Church, ect ect. Somethings gotta give.

Look, when it comes to these things you have to look at how is involved.

First off, everyone in Topeka aside from Westboro Baptist Church hates Fred Phelps. So it is not indicative of our culture here in the Capital city.

As for St. Mary's, well it's an uber-traditional catholic school, in a small town about 20 minutes from here. I don't agree with what transpired, but then again I'm not catholic or even close to being catholic.

Topeka is really no different than any other town. We have our nut balls like everyone else does.

If someone thinks that Topeka is full of religious zealots, then they would be making the same type of mistake that John Rocker did talking about NYC.

But I guess it goes to show you, two bad apples do spoil the bunch.

Everyone that has commented about this locally is against it. Hope that addresses your questions.

Yeah I think you're correct. My apologies for overgeneralizing and pulling the entire area into the filth of a small sector, but I've yet to personally encounter anyone who is that batty. And it seems that Kansas, particularly the Topeka area, makes the news quite a bit over contraversial religious issues. I guess the better question would be (and I think Chief already answered it), are there really groups of people in the area who are that nuts, and how noticeable is it to you?

[Ez Street]

Aside from Phelps and his band of hate mongers.....

It's normal town USA, well with maybe a slightly higher crime rate.

I can't say most people are religious wackos. In fact its like most midwestern towns, folks are friendly and likeable.

Everytown and region has it's seedy side.

[Chief.]

Yeah I think you're correct. My apologies for overgeneralizing and pulling the entire area into the filth of a small sector, but I've yet to personally encounter anyone who is that batty. And it seems that Kansas, particularly the Topeka area, makes the news quite a bit over contraversial religious issues. I guess the better question would be (and I think Chief already answered it), are there really groups of people in the area who are that nuts, and how noticeable is it to you?

I know in my first post I came across as hating the town I live in, but I don't let certain people who happen to live here dictate my feelings. There are times when I want out of here quicker than Clark Kent out of Smallville, but other times I just like my small town. Like EZ Street said, no town or state is without its problems. As for Phelps, not even worth arguing about.

[SG30]

I know this is going to make me sound completely sexist, but I really like my sports to stay separated by gender. I know there a lot of competent female referees and I'm not trying to discredit them at all, but I think men should ref men's games and women should ref women's games. Same goes for coaching, IMO.

Yea I agree. I think that ejecting the ref because she was a woman in this case was wrong, but I don't think she should have even been there in the first place. It also bothers me when I go to a girls varsity game and all the refs are men.

I don't see why it should bother you. You don't go to a professional game to see what gender the refs or coaches are, so why should a varsity game be any different?

I'm sorry I totally phrased that wrong. The fact that the refs at the game are men does not bother me, its just something I notice. I should have just said this- Men's sports are for men. Women's sports are for women. There's no need for a big stink like this when they mix, but I prefer the segregation.

[apeman33]

Just to clarify, St. Marys Academy isn't a member of the Kansas State High School Activities Association and I think it's because of the policies it holds about gender. It doesn't field a single girls' athletic team and I'm not sure if girls can even take part in forensics or debate or even band.

It has an "approved school" status, which means KSHSAA schools can play them and the game is allowed to count on their record (you can play an unapproved school, but the game doesn't count.).

The state association, therefore, can't sanction St. Marys except to revoke their approved status and then they'd have a hard time getting games. It's my understanding that the state will probably look into doing that and the officials association will likely not allow any of its officials to work there any more.

If they want to have stone-age policies, that's fine. They don't accept any government funding so it can have the ability to enforce whatever policies it sees fit. They shouldn't be surprised, however, when people react to gender ethics that were last held redeemable in the 1600s.

[EatSleepJeep]

All you need to know about this is:

Kansas.

I'm sorry that is an asinine comment.

I love how people view the entire state as being this "Red" state, with bigoted, small minded individuals. We have a female democrat as govenor, as well as a democrat congresswoman.

It's like saying, everyone in New York City is a Yankees fan....

I sure as hell wouldn't say the people in Iowa are all corn-fed idiots.

Instead of accusing my state of being small-minded, perhaps you should take a look at your own position.

Oh and by the way, it wasn't right for the school to hide behind the whole "we are a private school, we can do what we please." God knows, we've seen this before.

I need not bring back any Fuzzy Zoeller reference to remind you about OTHER states and their issues with african-americans and private golf courses. It's not right for them either.

It's not asinine. It's spot on. And I will address your grievances one by one.

It is a red state. That's an indisputable fact.

By the way, it's "Democratic" not "Democrat." And those that use it as such betray their red state biases. And

those women are only there because of Johnson County.

The people from Iowa ARE cornfed idiots. i live here, and I know it to be true since I've seen it firsthand since moving here. The same way that I can make the statement about Kansas since I saw it with my own eyes during my years there.

It is small-minded:

Shall we revisit the idiocy of your (former) school board? They're responsible for shaping the minds of your future citizens and they've got no qualms about shaping them into RNC talking-points-spouting robots.

Shall we go into your radical right-wing (former) attorney general and his violation of scores of private medical records in an illegal fishing expedition to appease his anti-abortion constituents?

Shall we go into those equally radical right-wing anti-abortion constituents dusting off a law from the 1800's and convening their own grand jury(stacked with like-minded RNC talking-points-spouting robots) to go after the Doctor where the (former) Attoney General failed?

Like it or not, this is deserved perception of your state. The farther you get from State Line Road, the redder and dumber the population becomes. The joke being "the right-wingers are on the left side of the state; those that are right are on the right side of the state."

If you would like my personal anecdotes, I'll give you just one as an appetizer.

On a sales trip in a small town near Hays, I was gassing up my vehicle and two bumkins in overalls with their battered pickup truck(I can't make this up) said "The Q stands for queer-lover. You a queer-lover?" and then proceeded to get foul and threatening. This was in reference to the Q prefix on my license plate that designated Johnson county.

[Chief.]

All you need to know about this is:

Kansas.

I'm sorry that is an asinine comment.

I love how people view the entire state as being this "Red" state, with bigoted, small minded individuals. We have a female democrat as govenor, as well as a democrat congresswoman.

It's like saying, everyone in New York City is a Yankees fan....

I sure as hell wouldn't say the people in Iowa are all corn-fed idiots.

Instead of accusing my state of being small-minded, perhaps you should take a look at your own position.

Oh and by the way, it wasn't right for the school to hide behind the whole "we are a private school, we can do what we please." God knows, we've seen this before.

I need not bring back any Fuzzy Zoeller reference to remind you about OTHER states and their issues with african-americans and private golf courses. It's not right for them either.

It's not asinine. It's spot on. And I will address your grievances one by one.

It is a red state. That's an indisputable fact.

By the way, it's "Democratic" not "Democrat." And those that use it as such betray their red state biases. And

those women are only there because of Johnson County.

The people from Iowa ARE cornfed idiots. i live here, and I know it to be true since I've seen it firsthand since moving here. The same way that I can make the statement about Kansas since I saw it with my own eyes during my years there.

It is small-minded:

Shall we revisit the idiocy of your (former) school board? They're responsible for shaping the minds of your future citizens and they've got no qualms about shaping them into RNC talking-points-spouting robots.

Shall we go into your radical right-wing (former) attorney general and his violation of scores of private medical records in an illegal fishing expedition to appease his anti-abortion constituents?

Shall we go into those equally radical right-wing anti-abortion constituents dusting off a law from the 1800's and convening their own grand jury(stacked with like-minded RNC talking-points-spouting robots) to go after the Doctor where the (former) Attoney General failed?

Like it or not, this is deserved perception of your state. The farther you get from State Line Road, the redder and dumber the population becomes. The joke being "the right-wingers are on the left side of the state; those that are right are on the right side of the state."

If you would like my personal anecdotes, I'll give you just one as an appetizer.

On a sales trip in a small town near Hays, I was gassing up my vehicle and two bumkins in overalls with their battered pickup truck(I can't make this up) said "The Q stands for queer-lover. You a queer-lover?" and then proceeded to get foul and threatening. This was in reference to the Q prefix on my license plate that designated Johnson county.

Oh, well I live in Hays so I guess that makes me a stupid, ignorant, gay-bashing hick despite the fact that I'm attending Fort Hays State University and studying to become an English teacher, right? If I go to New York or Florida I will be enlightened and inspired by their superior knowledge. Am I correct? Come on.

[EatSleepJeep]

I apologize. I didn't realize you were from the diverse, eclectic and bustling metropolis known as Hays, Kansas. It's reputation as the mecca for the free exchange of ideas and the equal application of civil liberties to all groups and classes is world renowned. All of this despite being over 95% white!

Honestly, why do you even bother voting? It may be premature, but I'm going to call the Kansas electoral votes in the 2008 general election for (Whomever has a R next to their name on the ballot). You heard it here first.

C'mon - the caucus went to Huckabee. He's mathematically eliminated but they gave him all their delegates anyway. Smart.

[cappital92]

I apologize. I didn't realize you were from the diverse, eclectic and bustling metropolis known as Hays, Kansas. It's reputation as the mecca for the free exchange of ideas and the equal application of civil liberties to all groups and classes is world renowned. All of this despite being over 95% white!

Honestly, why do you even bother voting? It may be premature, but I'm going to call the Kansas electoral votes in the 2008 general election for (Whomever has a R next to their name on the ballot). You heard it here first.

C'mon - the caucus went to Huckabee. He's mathematically eliminated but they gave him all their delegates anyway. Smart.

Ever hear of a protest vote? People like you and bulldogbarks55 make me think that terrorists probably could do a better job running this place.

[rams80]

I apologize. I didn't realize you were from the diverse, eclectic and bustling metropolis known as Hays, Kansas. It's reputation as the mecca for the free exchange of ideas and the equal application of civil liberties to all groups and classes is world renowned. All of this despite being over 95% white!

Honestly, why do you even bother voting? It may be premature, but I'm going to call the Kansas electoral votes in the 2008 general election for (Whomever has a R next to their name on the ballot). You heard it here first.

C'mon - the caucus went to Huckabee. He's mathematically eliminated but they gave him all their delegates anyway. Smart.

You know what, you're right. Why do I bother voting in Illinois because the guy (or gal) with the "D" by their name will carry the state as well?

Let's just bow to your enlightened worldview, which you have totally not discredited by your last couple of posts.

[Chief.]

I apologize. I didn't realize you were from the diverse, eclectic and bustling metropolis known as Hays, Kansas. It's reputation as the mecca for the free exchange of ideas and the equal application of civil liberties to all groups and classes is world renowned. All of this despite being over 95% white!

Honestly, why do you even bother voting? It may be premature, but I'm going to call the Kansas electoral votes in the 2008 general election for (Whomever has a R next to their name on the ballot). You heard it here first.

C'mon - the caucus went to Huckabee. He's mathematically eliminated but they gave him all their delegates anyway. Smart.

Quit talking down to me, seriously. I'm not an ignorant hick and I'm not a dumb Kansas farm boy. I'm voting in this election and I'm not going to conceit to elitists like you who generalize Kansas' entire population as a bunch of right-winged nutjobs. I've already stated I've had run-ins with people in this town, but overall it's given me plenty of opportunities (an affordable university) and has helped me get past minor inconveniences such as IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY. Shut your mouth and quit bashing my hometown for no reason.

[Ez Street]

It's not asinine. It's spot on. And I will address your grievances one by one.

It is a red state. That's an indisputable fact.

By the way, it's "Democratic" not "Democrat." And those that use it as such betray their red state biases. And

those women are only there because of Johnson County.

The people from Iowa ARE cornfed idiots. i live here, and I know it to be true since I've seen it firsthand since moving here. The same way that I can make the statement about Kansas since I saw it with my own eyes during my years there.

It is small-minded:

Shall we revisit the idiocy of your (former) school board? They're responsible for shaping the minds of your future citizens and they've got no qualms about shaping them into RNC talking-points-spouting robots.

Shall we go into your radical right-wing (former) attorney general and his violation of scores of private medical records in an illegal fishing expedition to appease his anti-abortion constituents?

Shall we go into those equally radical right-wing anti-abortion constituents dusting off a law from the 1800's and convening their own grand jury(stacked with like-minded RNC talking-points-spouting robots) to go after the Doctor where the (former) Attoney General failed?

Like it or not, this is deserved perception of your state. The farther you get from State Line Road, the redder and dumber the population becomes. The joke being "the right-wingers are on the left side of the state; those that are right are on the right side of the state."

If you would like my personal anecdotes, I'll give you just one as an appetizer.

On a sales trip in a small town near Hays, I was gassing up my vehicle and two bumkins in overalls with their battered pickup truck(I can't make this up) said "The Q stands for queer-lover. You a queer-lover?" and then proceeded to get foul and threatening. This was in reference to the Q prefix on my license plate that designated Johnson county.

While I cannot deny that my state has its issues, I also think it?s unfair to characterize the whole state under one assumption.

It's clear you have you opinions and that is fine, it is still sort-of a free country. I don't agree with you and think you are a bit off-base. If I choose to think your opinions are asinine, that?s my right.

But with all that, I don't hold it against you. We all have different experiences in life that influence the way we perceive things.

[DEAD!]

I just looked at the census just out of curiosity...

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/20000.html

The percentage of whites in Kansas is 89.1%, though white persons that are not Hispanic is 81.1%

[EatSleepJeep]

I just looked at the census just out of curiosity...

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/20000.html

The percentage of whites in Kansas is 89.1%, though white persons that are not Hispanic is 81.1%

Your point being what? The population of Hays is 95% white. The next group(Asian) has a whole 1%. Its diversity of population and therefore its diversity of thought leaves a lot to be desired.

It all boils down to this. Kansas has a reputation. How did they get it? By a vast majority of their population repeatedly and earnestly attempting to push their mindless dogma onto the entirety. They deserve it; every bit of it, and most are proud it. Congratulations if you live in Kansas and you're not one of them. however, for every one of you, there's 50 of them.

[DEAD!]

I just looked at the census just out of curiosity...

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/20000.html

The percentage of whites in Kansas is 89.1%, though white persons that are not Hispanic is 81.1%

Your point being what? The population of Hays is 95% white. The next group(Asian) has a whole 1%. Its diversity of population and therefore its diversity of thought leaves a lot to be desired.

It all boils down to this. Kansas has a reputation. How did they get it? By a vast majority of their population repeatedly and earnestly attempting to push their mindless dogma onto the entirety. They deserve it; every bit of it, and most are proud it. Congratulations if you live in Kansas and you're not one of them. however, for every one of you, there's 50 of them.

I was just curious.... At least you weren't far off with your initial guess