Brian in Boston Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The Quad City Flames appear to be on the verge of getting snuffed out. Despite denials from both Calgary and Quad City Flames officials to the contrary, rumors persist that the parent Calgary Flames plan to move their American Hockey League affiliate to Abbotsford, British Columbia's new $64-million arena - scheduled to open this March - in time for the 2009-2010 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The Quad City Flames appear to be on the verge of being snuffed out. Despite denials from both Calgary and Quad City Flames officials to the contrary, rumors persist that the parent Calgary Flames plan to move their American Hockey League affiliate to Abbotsford, British Columbia's new $64-million arena - scheduled to open this March - in time for the 2009-2010 season.I thought this deal burnt out in December do we have a source? JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 wow, either Quad City can get another NHL team to affiliate with the city or we could see them go back to the U/IHL or ECHL and the return of the Mallards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB61 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The St. John/Omaha/Quad City/British Columbia Ak-Sar-Ben Flames?Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The St. John/Omaha/Quad City/British Columbia Ak-Sar-Ben Flames?Sheesh.Don't forget the Moncton Golden Flames JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 I thought this deal burnt out in December do we have a source?ArenaDigest.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I thought this deal burnt out in December do we have a source?ArenaDigest.comWell back in December the Flames apparently signed a 5 year agreement to stay in Quad City but could have fizzled out, and if they do go through the move this will be a lot better for call ups to get here quicker. JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Oh brother...It seems like the Flames can't decide on where they want to have their affilate located. Moncton, St. John's, Omaha, Quad Cities, Abbotsford. Man... That's a very convoluted team history there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The Quad City Flames appear to be on the verge of getting snuffed out. Despite denials from both Calgary and Quad City Flames officials to the contrary, rumors persist that the parent Calgary Flames plan to move their American Hockey League affiliate to Abbotsford, British Columbia's new $64-million arena - scheduled to open this March - in time for the 2009-2010 season.Will this be approved by the league? I have trouble seeing this working without Calgary essentially promising to subsidize the road trips for the entire league. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Oh brother...It seems like the Flames can't decide on where they want to have their affilate located. Moncton, St. John's, Omaha, Quad Cities, Abbotsford. Man... That's a very convoluted team history there.And Lowell for 2 seasons, splitting with Carolina. Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://www.bclocalnews.com/sports/36349864.htmlThis article is dated, but note what Andrews is saying. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Salt Lake City couldn't handle being the westernmost outpost of the AHL, so what on earth makes a town in British Columbia think they're gonna be sustainable? Even if Abbotsford were to be placed in an all-Canada division, their closest opponent would be roughly halfway across the country in Winnipeg. There is absolutely no way to make that financially sustainable, especially in a 7,000-seat small market, save for convincing the good people of Abbotsford that $100 a ticket is reasonable for minor-league hockey. This one's gonna go the way of the 1996-97 IHL Victoria Spiders.That being said, I have no reason to believe that the QC Flames will live on past this year. Once again, the Calgary Flames have salted the earth of a potentially fruitful hockey market. A note to those who believe the AHL should be about player development uber alles: this is the product of such thinking. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Well, crap. Might as well affiliate Abbotsford with Vancouver and Winnipeg with Calgary, but even that's logistically impossible for the AHL. Having seen some of the towns that do have WHL teams while Abbotsford doesn't hardly leads me to believe that Abbotsford is a viable AHL market, and that's not even taking into account that surely most British Columbians don't much care for the Flames.Why do the Calgary Flames keep destroying all these minor league hockey towns? The folks in Rock Island are probably like "man we gave up the Mallards for THIS?"Fun fact: on my National Geographic wall map, I can spot Kamloops, Chilliwack, Kelowna, Burnaby, and Salmon Arm. No Abbotsford. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Ya I doubt Abbotsford would support a Flames affiliate. Flames should look for something similar to the Abbotsford arena in Alberta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Where in Alberta can they support the AHL where they 1) aren't supporting an NHL team2) aren't supporting a WHL team3) have an AHL-ready arena ready ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW.ERA Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Red Deer I believe has the 3rd largest arena in Alberta after Pengrowth and Rexall and the thing with Red Deer is there half Oiler half Flames fans But most of the mid sized Western Canadian cities have WHL teams, Flames should stay in the Quad Cities but I don't know what the Fan support is there, I could see the Flames somewhere in Montana possibly Billings they did have a WHL team but would need a new arena. JETS|PACK|JAYS|NUFC|BAMA|BOMBERS|RAPS|ORANJE| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBlazer Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The Quad City Flames appear to be on the verge of getting snuffed out. Despite denials from both Calgary and Quad City Flames officials to the contrary, rumors persist that the parent Calgary Flames plan to move their American Hockey League affiliate to Abbotsford, British Columbia's new $64-million arena - scheduled to open this March - in time for the 2009-2010 season.Will this be approved by the league? I have trouble seeing this working without Calgary essentially promising to subsidize the road trips for the entire league.I don't think the AHL can afford to have a team out in British Columbia in terms of the travel costs, so the move out of the Quad Cities to that far west, I believe, won't happen any time soon. http://www.reverbnation.com/richardyerardihttp://www.ahlfans.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwtrailtrekker Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 keep the flames out of British Columbia!!!!!!i know those in Manitoba are big Moose fans and many have grown into Canucks fans, but if the Baby Flames MUST move, send Manitoba to Abbotsford (or even better Seattle), and move the baby flames to Winnepeg (or better yet move Phoenix back!)so..my proposal...1. Quad City Flames move to Phoenix. Become the Phoenix Flames.2. Phoenix Coyotes move to Winnepeg. Become Manitoba Moose. Or Winnepeg Jets.3. Canucks AHL affiliate moves to Seattle, WA. Becomes the Seattle Metropolitans.4. Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 so..my proposal...Man, they do sell the potent sh** up in the Pacific Northwest, don't they? On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Now, in defense of Abbotsford, Chilliwack is nearby and they're home to a WHL franchise.Yes, I do see the difference between the AHL, a minor league, and the WHL, which is a junior league. But, if Chilliwack can draw a decent crowd at home with a junior league team, then maybe Abbotsford has a chance.Now, maybe I see why the Flames want to move again: Quad City has the second lowest total attendance in the AHL (Lowell is the lowest averaging only 1700 fans at a home. Quad City gets 2750 per home game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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