RoughRiders9 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hey guys,For the past few days, my friend and I have been working on a what if scenario where all of the 4 major sports league (MLB, NFL, NBA and NHL) expanded to 40 teams. Keep in mind that we don't care if the talent will be watered down or if the locations can't really support a team or whatever, but we do would like to try to keep this as realistic as possible. That means no "minor-league-ish" team names or whatever. We are also assuming that we keep ALL of the professional teams intact, but with only a FEW changes (i.e. Anaheim Ducks back to Mighty Ducks of Anaheim).We also have agreed on one rule: There MUST be an expansion team in Des Moines/Iowa and Little Rock/Arkansas (where we both are from). My friend said that all new Arkansas teams will have Red as their primary color. Yes we are aware that those two places can't support a major team, but it's just for fun in our little dream world. So we'd like to "build" the league around the current teams and Iowa/Arkansas. We've also come up with a few locations/team names ideas for each of the league. I'm also a sucker for "old/famous teams" (Montreal Expos, Seattle SuperSonics, etc etc) If you guys have any ideas, please do feel free to suggest or modify our ideas or whatever. We'd also like to have at least one team in Rochester (NY) in any sport (except NFL). We met at college there, so it's a somewhat special place in our hearts, lol. The teams I've listed with the numbers are a "must" for us. The rest are just ideas that we've thrown out. Thanks!!MLB: 1) Iowa Oaks2) Arkansas Travelers3) Portland Beavers4) Montreal Expos5) San Antonio MissionsVancouver, Utah, San Jose/Puerto Rico, Memphis, Buffalo, Rochester (NY)need FIVE more teamsNFL:1) Iowa Barnstormers2) Arkansas Outlaws/Rebels ????3) Los Angeles ????Canton/Ohio, San Antonio, Hawaii, Toronto, Monterrey/Mexico, Oregon, Kentucky, OrlandoNeed FIVE more teamsNBA: 1) Iowa ?????2) Arkansas Diamonds??3) Seattle SuperSonics4) Kansas CityPittsburgh, St. Louis, Rochester (NY), Louisville/Kentucky, Omaha/Nebraska, San DiegoNeed SIX more teamsNHL (quite a few Canadian places ):1) Des Moines Buccaneers? Des Moines Raccoons? Iowa ????2) Arkansas Bears3) Hartford WhalersHamilton, 2nd Toronto team, Quebec City, Kansas City, Seattle, Portland, Houston, Rochester (NY), Alaska, Wisconsin (can't believe WI doesn't have a team, most likely will be Milwaukee Admirls)Need SEVEN more teamsSo....if you guys have any ideas, please post them here! thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Aware Eagle Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'd like to see the return of the old Pittsburgh Ironmen in the NBA. It's a really cool name, in my opinion. Plus, it's an awesome opportunity to make an alternate home jersey with "MEN" on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumbler Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 MLB Arkansas Rocks.Memphis Showboats.Fort Worth Texans.NFLOrlando Solars.Corpus Christi King Fish / Gulfs.El Paso Rio Grandes.NBATacoma Mountaineers.Miami Keys.Victoria Thunderbirds (my UBA team).Omaha Praries.NHL Portland RosesHalifax Atlantic.Hamilton Hammers.Thunder Bay Superiors.Des Moines Centrals.Toledo Blades.Alaska Huskies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillyphan63 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 MLBVancouver MountiesNew Orleans VulturesSalt Lake RobinsPortland LumberjacksMemphis HoundsNFLCanton BulldogsTopeka LocomotivesLos Angeles StarsMexico City Conquistadors San Antonio WranglersLas Vegas GamblersNBAPittsburgh CondorsLouisville JockeysOmaha HerdRochester KnightsSan Diego OrcasSt. Louis DukesNHLQuebec NordiquesCalifornia Golden SealsHamilton TigersHalifax NarwhalsSan Francisco SwordfishManitoba MooseMilwaukee MustangsHope these help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdm1219inpenna Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 MLB - Carolina Strikers (tarheel blue, silver, white & black) Portland Meadowlarks (or Larks for short) Orlando Sun SoxNHL - I hate "Wild" as a team name, I'd like to see the Vikings incorporated, and call the team the Minnesota Norsemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aci Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 NFL: definitely a San Antonio team, and possibly Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver if you want to go Canadian?NHL: Hamilton Tigers, Halifax Acadians, Saskatoon Blades, Milwaukee Admirals, Seattle.NBA: Pittsburgh and St Louis seem like must-haves, maybe re-add Vancouver.MLB: Vacnouver Canadians, Montreal Expos, second Boston team?, Portland Beavers, Memphis Redbirds, San Antonio Missions, Salt Lake Bees, Charlotte Knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 Me and my friend have been focusing on the NHL lately and we've come up with several teams that are a must and possible teams as well:THE MUSTS- Des Moines Buccaneers / Des Moines Raccoons (can't decide)- Arkansas Bears- Hartford Whalers- Quebec Nordiques- Kansas City ScoutsTHE MAYBES- California Golden Seals (SF)- Rochester Americans- Milwaukee Admirals- Hamilton Tigers- Cleveland Barons- Manitoba Moose- Thunder Bay Superiors- Halifax Atlantic / Narwhals / Acadians (would love to have a team there but can't decide on a name)As you see, we already got 5 teams that are locks. We need to decide on 5 more teams from the maybes list. We would appreciate your help! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumbler Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Anchorage would be an ideal spot for NHL with the population of that area of around 300,000 and good sponsorship opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaklandhusker Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 1) Iowa Oaks2) Arkansas Travelers3) Portland Beavers4) Montreal Expos5) San Antonio MissionsVancouver Coagars, Utah Moose, San Jose/Puerto Rico Geckos, Memphis Monsters, Buffalo Bulldogs, Rochester (NY) RocksNebraska SmokeAugusta (Maine) MinersSyracuse SundawgsCleveland ChiefsOmaha OgresNHL (quite a few Canadian places )1) Des Moines Raccoons?2) Arkansas Bears3) Hartford WhalersHamilton, 2nd Toronto team, Quebec City, Kansas City, Seattle, Portland, Houston, Rochester (NY), Alaska, Wisconsin (can't believe WI doesn't have a team, most likely will be Milwaukee Admirls)Manitoba MooseNeed SIX more teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Aware Eagle Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I wouldn't go with the Manitoba Moose. The AHL team played in Winnipeg, in the same arena that the current Jets play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinM6 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 MLBVancouver WoodsmenUtah SummitPortland BeaversNFLCanton Bulldogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Portland/Seattle/Vancouver (WA) getting an NHL team would be good for the Pacific coast. Milwaukee/Wisconsin (like maybe Madison) wouldn't be a bad idea, either. Adding another Ohio team to the NHL is not a good idea, IMO-- given that the Barons failed before and the Blue Jackets can't give away tickets. Thunder Bay, Halifax, and Hamilton are all decent locations, too. I think you have to think about where hockey is sustainable first-- and then choose names based on those locales. Probably better to not fall back on old names, either, like the Scouts, Tigers, etc. New identities are more fun, and a lot more open to possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Me and my friend have been focusing on the NHL lately and we've come up with several teams that are a must and possible teams as well:THE MUSTS- Des Moines Buccaneers / Des Moines Raccoons (can't decide)- Arkansas Bears- Hartford Whalers- Quebec Nordiques- Kansas City ScoutsTHE MAYBES- California Golden Seals (SF)- Rochester Americans- Milwaukee Admirals- Hamilton Tigers- Cleveland Barons- Manitoba Moose- Thunder Bay Superiors- Halifax Atlantic / Narwhals / Acadians (would love to have a team there but can't decide on a name)As you see, we already got 5 teams that are locks. We need to decide on 5 more teams from the maybes list. We would appreciate your help! Thanks.I bolded the ones I like the best. You have to bring back the Seals, they had such an awesome logo/uni set.For the others:MLB-Buffalo Locomotives (The railcar business boomed in Buffalo during the WWII era).Nashville Fugitives (I prefer Nashville to Memphis. Fugitives is a group of writers that were around in the early 20th century.)Utah Blizzard (Hosted 2002 Olympics and known for their skiing and winter life for tourism.)Vancouver Ocean (Vancouver has the largest port in Canada.)Oregon Green (Machine?) (Portland, where I would put the team, is one of the greenest cities in the US. Also the green of the many forests.)NFL-Arkansas Outlaws (I prefer Outlaws of the two you had.)Oregon Rose (Like the MLB team, I have this team in Portland. Portland is well known for roses and previously had a team named Rosebuds.)Hawaii Volcanoes (Easy pick, but I like the name.)Toronto Bears (Bear and a beaver on the coat of arms, I like the name bears.)Kentucky Mustangs (Derby, and known for farmlands and horses.)Las Vegas Pitbosses (Eh, different?)Hope I provided some help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knnhrvy16 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'd just like to throw in (as a Utah native) the Salt Lake Bees for the MLB. The name has a great amount of history here (in various leagues throughout the year) and I think would be the ideal choice if Utah were to ever get a team. The Portland Beavers and Montreal Expos would be great to see as well.For the NHL, Saskatoon Blades and Hamilton Tigers would be great. And not to be a homer, but Utah Grizzlies would be awesome! For the NBA, how about the Pittsburgh Pipers? Old ABA nod, same could go for Kentucky Colonels or Spirit of St. Louis.For the NFL...hmm...Canton Bulldogs is cool. Kind of like the Iowa Barnstormers idea, too. Oh! And the Hawaii Islanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worcat Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I love and hate this idea to be honest.It's fun to be creative and have wishful thinking of fantasy teams in new cities. I understand and get that, it's cool.What I dislike is the idea that half of your suggested team names are either duplicates of current team names or defunct teams that used to be in the league. You can't have a team named the "Bears" in the NHL along with the Bruins. Sounds ridiculouis IMO. I'd love to see the Scouts or Whalers back in the NHL but where's the originality in this whole discussion? You may as well just pick your team names from previous teams the league used to have.If you're going to go through this much trouble, atleast go through and detail your ideas as much as possible. I don't understand why half of the suggested team names were chosen to begin with. Are people picking team names according to state or city traditions or just making up something that sounds cool? What I think would work better is focusing on quality of names/cities than just quantity. I saw something similar to this before and basically it was a poll discussion with voting from members. Step by step process - Pick number of expanded cities, let's say 2 for the NHL. Next vote is on the cities - two highest voted cities are chosen for expansion. Of those two cities, a new poll is held for team names, highest voted name is chosen. Final thread and poll is for uniform/logo design. Best design wins and there you have it... a well organized contest and idea.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 NFLLos Angeles SlayersMLBMontreal ExposBrooklyn CyclonesNBASeattle SupersonicsPittsburgh PiscesNHLHartford WhalersHouston AerosIndianapolis RacersKansas City ScoutsQuebec NorqiduesCFLOttawa Rough Riders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygers09 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 NBA-1)Seattle Supersonics2)Las Vegas3)Kansas City4)LousivilleHonorable Mentioned: St.Louis, Honolulu, NHL-1)Quebec Nordiques2)Seattle Metropolitians3)Portland Rosebuds or Roses4)Las Vegas5)Hartford Whalers6)Kansas City Scouts Honorable mentioned: Houston, Omaha, Anchorage/Alaska, MLB-1)Portland2)Las Vegas Black Jax3)Montreal Expos or Wanderers4)Salt Lake Honorable mention: Omaha, San Antonio, HonoluluNFL-1)Los Angeles Cobras2)Las Vegas 3)San Antonio4)TorontoHonorable mentioned: Honolulu, Orlando, Vancouver, Birmingham, Memphis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 Hey guys,We've decided on our 10 NHL expansion teams:Des Moines RaccoonsArkansas BearsHartford WhalersQuebec NordiquesKansas City ScoutsHalifax AcadiansThunder Bay SuperiorsRochester AmericansHamilton TigersMilwaukee AdmiralsEASTERN CONF:Atlantic: Boston, Florida, Halifax, hartford, New Jersey, New York Islanders, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, WashingtonNortheast: Buffalo, Carolina, Hamilton, Montreal, Nashville, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Quebec, Rochester, TorontoWESTERN CONF:Central: Arkansas, Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Des Moines, Detroit, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Minnesota, St. LouisPacific: Anaheim, Calagry, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Jose, Thunder Bay, Vancouver, WinnipegThoughts?? I might switch Nashville and Columbus so Arkansas can have. "natural" rival with Nashville. Will probably work on NFL next....Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 My thoughts: I agree with worcat. Bringing back all these old names is kind of boring, TBH. There are some new ones, but why not come up with a new identity for each[b/] team in the expansion? Otherwise, everything is predictable. Whalers & Nordiques I would keep, but the rest should be something new IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 My thoughts: I agree with worcat. Bringing back all these old names is kind of boring, TBH. There are some new ones, but why not come up with a new identity for each[b/] team in the expansion? Otherwise, everything is predictable. Whalers & Nordiques I would keep, but the rest should be something new IMO.Ok, just so I'm clear on this: do you mean new locations or new team names, but same location?Like instead the Kansas City Scouts, it could be the Kansas Wheat, Arkansas Blades, Rochester Tigers, etc etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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