Pittsburgh Pirates

[Lights Out]

The Pirates' current uniforms are okay, but there's some aspects that need work - such as the random traces of red, the crappy number font, the mismatched wordmarks, and the mismatched P's. I tried to fix all of these things to make the perfect Pirates uniform, while also experimenting with a new presentation style. Thoughts?

[piratesfan16]

I've always thought about that too (how the scripts don't match). You definitely did a great job in standardizing the scripts. In my MLB Series, this was my version of matching the scripts (not to threadjack or anything, just for reference).

A couple things are off like the 'S' and the 'P'. For your concept, I actually like the updated numbers and NOB font. Only C&C would be to make the bats yellow. Great job.

[Kevin W.]

Sorry, but I just can't stand that number font. Other than that, it's an excellent concept.

[cohenj21]

Actually love that number font, fits much better with their brand. Also love the absence of red. Nice job.

[Lights Out]

Any more thoughts?

[BBTV]

Your number font is not an improvement over what they currently use. The 2 is painful to look at (way too jagged) and the 7 looks italicized. What they have certainly isn't perfect, but it matches the script better than yours. Yours have way different angles - look at the 3 for example. The corner parts are longer and make the number look more octagonal, while the letters on the wordmark are more rectangular (shorter corner parts.)

[cohenj21]

I think that the 7 on your number font does need some work, but the other ones look okay to me. It fits with the brand better IMO.

[andrewharrington]

I think the way to 'fix' the Pirates uniform is to create a single lettering style that will work across all aspects of the jersey, which you've attempted, but I think it would work better to make that lettering a little on the conservative side of the spectrum they have. Take those characteristics, but keep them toned down.

[Lights Out]

Here's another, more conservative direction. I personally like my previous scripts better, but this might be more in line with what you're suggesting, AH:

[WSU151]

The update is excellent.

[McCall]

The Pittsburgh letters being smaller look more awkward going on the front of a jersey than the Pirates mark, which has fewer letters but enough to where it can be properly sized. Though the P looks too big compared to the rest of the letters. What you do with it is elongate it vertically without scaling it.

Btw, just because te first letter in the nickname is bigger doesn't mean it has to be for the city.

[Lights Out]

Here's the full update:

The number font is a tweaked version of their current font - I feel I've adequately addressed the ugly "2" and "7" they use. The yellow alternate jersey doubles as a batting practice jersey and a game-use home alt. Thoughts?

[cohenj21]

I think you have fixed the number font nicely, I like that yellow jersey but I don't think that white outline looks good around the script, try ditching that on the yellow jersey and the black...maybe that wouldn't look good either but especially on the black jersey the letters seem to run into each other on the front of the jerseys with that outline. Try playing around with that, but other than that good job.

[wildwing64]

Nice update. Although the P on the new wordmark is a bit too wide compared to the rest of the letters.

[kevinmets]

The original is near-perfect, except for the number font. The updated font is closer but something still seems a little off. I think I just don't like the way the number "8" looks in overly stylized fonts (i.e. Texas Rangers).