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NFL Merry-Go-Round: Relocation Roundelay

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11 hours ago, neo_prankster said:

How is the Soccer City project coming along in SD?

 

They start collecting signatures in about a week. So far the city is very supportive. SDSU is less supportive on it because they're having delusions of Power 5 grandeur. But they also don't have much choice since Qualcomm is being demolished after the 2018 season and the Padres are only letting them shack up for 2019. After that the Aztecs are homeless without a new venue. Doug Manchester (local developer extraordinaire) suggested an alternative of rebuilding Qualcomm Stadium (for $500-$600 million) along the lines of what the Chiefs did to Arrowhead, but he'd need an NFL team to make it pencil out which all but the delusional know is not in the cards. I think ultimately SDSU and the MLS guys come to an accommodation and it'll get done. They're claiming conservatively the project will bring in $2.8 billion in economic activity and 26,000 permanent jobs (plus 42,000 construction jobs). A project of that scale won't be derailed over a few thousand seats for a Mountain West football team.

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@bosrs1 Wouldn't you agree that the Aztecs should just swallow their pride and take whatever they can get out of the project?

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37 minutes ago, neo_prankster said:

@bosrs1 Wouldn't you agree that the Aztecs should just swallow their pride and take whatever they can get out of the project?

 

You'd think so. But there's a school of thought out here that there's another party interest in the land who hasn't made themselves known yet who SDSU is counting on to give them what they want (a 40,000 seat stadium plus campus expansion) along side a redevelopment of the site. Long time San Diego developer and former Padres owner John Moores has been silent on his thoughts so far, and he had previously been tied to an earlier plan to redevelop that site. If he's is planning an as yet unseen redevelopment plan that favors SDSU as his earlier plan did... well the soccer plan may be dead man walking. Moores is connected up the yin-yang around SD.

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MLS is bringing LAFC into the league by themselves next season, so that means there's no set timetable for the following team to enter, and therefore no particular rush to award the next expansion franchise.

 

Which should give San Diego time enough to get their plan together, and enough time for the St. Louis plan to pass or fail.  Although if that ownership group insists on public dollars then I really hope they're kept out of the league. 

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2 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

MLS is bringing LAFC into the league by themselves next season, so that means there's no set timetable for the following team to enter, and therefore no particular rush to award the next expansion franchise.  

 

Which should give San Diego time enough to get their plan together, and enough time for the St. Louis plan to pass or fail.  Although if that ownership group insists on public dollars then I really hope they're kept out of the league. 

This isn't the homer in me talking, but Tampa Bay really has their ducks in a row.  I believe there's a city vote in April to have residents decide if the city can work with the team on a lease and site modifications.  Overall opinion seems positive and I don't believe any local money will be spent.

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That's my understanding as well, so I'm pulling for the Rowdies too. 

 

I just can't get behind Peacock trying to feed at the public trough again.  Especially when he has a partner who could easily write a personal check to cover the whole amount (and who has done written just such a check in the recent past). 

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1 hour ago, Gothamite said:

That's my understanding as well, so I'm pulling for the Rowdies too. 

 

I just can't get behind Peacock trying to feed at the public trough again.  Especially when he has a partner who could easily write a personal check to cover the whole amount (and who has done written just such a check in the recent past). 

 

Wasn't Peacock the guy from AB that wanted to keep the Rams in St Louis?

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7 hours ago, neo_prankster said:

 

Wasn't Peacock the guy from AB that wanted to keep the Rams in St Louis?

 

Yep.  And he bungled that one too, after trying so desperately to keep the public from having a say in whether their money was used to pay for it. 

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Meanwhile, on the NFL front......

 

Oakland pitched their Hail Mary plan to the Raiders/NFL over the last couple days.  Roger Goodell, as any quality defensive back is taught to do, knocks the ball down. 

 

Monday is the day when owners are expected to vote on the relocation of the Raiders to Las Vegas, with a projected 27 teams already expected to vote in favor of the move.

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Oh cool. :censored: the Chargers AND the Raiders now, too. 

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3 lame duck seasons in Oakland. Cool. 

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They have bowls in Vegas.

 

How sad. And Oakland's going to lose the Warriors too. Likely the A's within a decade. And all they get in return is tech-based gentrification.

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Lol, and now it looks like the Raiders are about to squeeze another few hundred million out of the state to put the public debt for this project at a cool billion dollars. 

 

 

Seriously, :censored: so many things about this. 

 

They have bowls in Vegas.

 

How sad. And Oakland's going to lose the Warriors too. Likely the A's within a decade. And all they get in return is tech-based gentrification.

 

The Bay Area is an absolute shell of what it used to be only 10-15 years ago (At least culturally). I always said that I eventually wanted to make my way back there and settle down but there's absolutely no way I'd ever do that now. And the worst part is it's starting to make it's way further and further east and now even Sacramento is becoming impossible to afford. It's to the point where I'm wondering if I'll even be able to stay in the state as the years move forward. 

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PF Changs Stadium has a nice ring to it. I'll bet there will be one inside the stadium. 

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I feel for Oakland. I swear it gets more difficult each day to root for teams.

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American sports leagues found the one municipality still dumb enough to publicly fund sports venues.

 

I'm going to be pissed when the NBA leapfrogs Seattle for likely another new basketball-only arena in Vegas. At this point, it's worth trying to make happen.

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Breaking News: Vegas Golden Knights file for relocation. :P

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