jlog3000 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Maybe it might, maybe it might not. But regardless, based on this hypothetical, it would be at least the bare minimum for the time being because it would be impossible for one division to have 5 teams and another division 3 teams. That's unless more expansion teams would also be added or created (in order to 'retain' the Cardinals in one same division with the Cubs and Reds and Pirates and Brewers). Meaning that the league would somehow need to expand upto 48 teams max, and possibly kill interleague-play games. Quote Florida State Seminoles fan for life (mostly on football, basketball and baseball)! 2011-12 ACC men's basketball conference tournament champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football Atlantic Division champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football regular season champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football conference bowl tournament champions; 2014 NCAA D-I FBS BCS national champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, jlog3000 said: Maybe it might, maybe it might not. But regardless, based on this hypothetical, it would be at least the bare minimum for the time being because it would be impossible for one division to have 5 teams and another division 3 teams. That's unless more expansion teams would also be added or created (in order to 'retain' the Cardinals in one same division with the Cubs and Reds and Pirates and Brewers). Meaning that the league would somehow need to expand upto 48 teams max, and possibly kill interleague-play games. I didn't say you had to keep all 5 together, just the Cardinals and Cubs. The 3 historic rivalries that absolutely cannot be split up divisionally are Yankees-Red Sox, Cardinals-Cubs and Dodgers-Giants. Mets-Phillies are borderline undividable, since the Mets have only existed since 1962, but given their proximity, it's highly unlikely they ever would be separated. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 My attempt at a 36 team NFL NFC East Dallas NY Giants Philadelphia Washington Atlanta Carolina NFC Central Chicago Detroit Green Bay Minnesota Tampa Bay Expansion NFC West Arizona LA Rams San Francisco Seattle New Orleans Expansion AFC East NY Jets New England Buffalo Miami Jacksonville Expansion AFC Central Baltimore Cincinnati Cleveland Indianapolis Pittsburgh Tennessee AFC West Denver Houston Kansas City Las Vegas LA Chargers Expansion 1 Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Crazy thought experiment time... In my perfect world, the NCAA Tournament would only have 32 teams in it, and all would be conference champions. In this example, this is how the tournament would work: South Region (8) Norfolk State (MEAC) vs. (1) Houston (Big XII) (5) High Point (Big South) vs. (4) Grand Canyon (WAC) (6) Oakland (Horizon League) vs. (3) Samford (Southern) (7) Eastern Kentucky (ASUN) vs. (2) Richmond (Atlantic 10) East Region (8) Merrimack (NEC) vs. (1) Purdue (Big Ten) (5) College of Charleston (CAA) vs. (4) Vermont (America East) (6) Quinnipiac (MAAC) vs. (3) Princeton (Ivy League) (7) Morehead State (Ohio Valley) vs. (2) Connecticut (Big East) North Region (8) Colgate (Patriot League) vs. (1) Tennessee (SEC) (5) Sam Houston State (Conference USA) vs. (4) St. Mary's (WCC) (6) Toledo (Mid-American) vs. (3) Indiana State (Missouri Valley) (7) McNeese State (Southland) vs. (2) North Carolina (ACC) West Region (8) Grambling (SWAC) vs. (1) Utah State (Mountain West) (5) Appalachian State (Sun Belt) vs. (4) UC Irvine (Big West) (6) Eastern Washington (Big Sky) vs. (3) South Florida (American) (7) South Dakota State (Summit) vs. (2) Arizona (Pac-12) TV wise, the four network system will still be in use. Now, each network gets their own region - meaning that they get seven games over a weekend to broadcast. CBS and TBS still has rotating Final Four duties. The NIT is also 32 teams, but it is only open to schools in Top 16 in terms of conference RPI. For this season, the following conferences are allowed to send two teams to the NIT: Big XII, SEC, Big Ten, Mountain West, ACC, Big East, Pac-12, Atlantic 10, Missouri Valley, American, Ivy League, Southern, West Coast, WAC, America East and Big West. The remaining 16 conferences are then allowed to send teams to the CBI and CIT, with the second placed teams going to the CBI and third placed teams going to the CIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 8 hours ago, Seadragon76 said: Crazy thought experiment time... In my perfect world, the NCAA Tournament would only have 32 teams in it, and all would be conference champions. In this example, this is how the tournament would work: South Region (8) Norfolk State (MEAC) vs. (1) Houston (Big XII) (5) High Point (Big South) vs. (4) Grand Canyon (WAC) (6) Oakland (Horizon League) vs. (3) Samford (Southern) (7) Eastern Kentucky (ASUN) vs. (2) Richmond (Atlantic 10) East Region (8) Merrimack (NEC) vs. (1) Purdue (Big Ten) (5) College of Charleston (CAA) vs. (4) Vermont (America East) (6) Quinnipiac (MAAC) vs. (3) Princeton (Ivy League) (7) Morehead State (Ohio Valley) vs. (2) Connecticut (Big East) North Region (8) Colgate (Patriot League) vs. (1) Tennessee (SEC) (5) Sam Houston State (Conference USA) vs. (4) St. Mary's (WCC) (6) Toledo (Mid-American) vs. (3) Indiana State (Missouri Valley) (7) McNeese State (Southland) vs. (2) North Carolina (ACC) West Region (8) Grambling (SWAC) vs. (1) Utah State (Mountain West) (5) Appalachian State (Sun Belt) vs. (4) UC Irvine (Big West) (6) Eastern Washington (Big Sky) vs. (3) South Florida (American) (7) South Dakota State (Summit) vs. (2) Arizona (Pac-12) TV wise, the four network system will still be in use. Now, each network gets their own region - meaning that they get seven games over a weekend to broadcast. CBS and TBS still has rotating Final Four duties. The NIT is also 32 teams, but it is only open to schools in Top 16 in terms of conference RPI. For this season, the following conferences are allowed to send two teams to the NIT: Big XII, SEC, Big Ten, Mountain West, ACC, Big East, Pac-12, Atlantic 10, Missouri Valley, American, Ivy League, Southern, West Coast, WAC, America East and Big West. The remaining 16 conferences are then allowed to send teams to the CBI and CIT, with the second placed teams going to the CBI and third placed teams going to the CIT. That would be the lowest rated tournament ever. You have only 5 or 6 "power conference" teams, a few mid-majors and the rest smaller conference schools. You automatically lose more than half your viewership just by cutting the number from 68. Then taking out all but 6 bigger conference schools. CBS couldn't get out of this deal fast enough. 2 Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 12 hours ago, Seadragon76 said: Crazy thought experiment time... In my perfect world, the NCAA Tournament would only have 32 teams in it, and all would be conference champions. In this example, this is how the tournament would work: South Region (8) Norfolk State (MEAC) vs. (1) Houston (Big XII) (5) High Point (Big South) vs. (4) Grand Canyon (WAC) (6) Oakland (Horizon League) vs. (3) Samford (Southern) (7) Eastern Kentucky (ASUN) vs. (2) Richmond (Atlantic 10) East Region (8) Merrimack (NEC) vs. (1) Purdue (Big Ten) (5) College of Charleston (CAA) vs. (4) Vermont (America East) (6) Quinnipiac (MAAC) vs. (3) Princeton (Ivy League) (7) Morehead State (Ohio Valley) vs. (2) Connecticut (Big East) North Region (8) Colgate (Patriot League) vs. (1) Tennessee (SEC) (5) Sam Houston State (Conference USA) vs. (4) St. Mary's (WCC) (6) Toledo (Mid-American) vs. (3) Indiana State (Missouri Valley) (7) McNeese State (Southland) vs. (2) North Carolina (ACC) West Region (8) Grambling (SWAC) vs. (1) Utah State (Mountain West) (5) Appalachian State (Sun Belt) vs. (4) UC Irvine (Big West) (6) Eastern Washington (Big Sky) vs. (3) South Florida (American) (7) South Dakota State (Summit) vs. (2) Arizona (Pac-12) TV wise, the four network system will still be in use. Now, each network gets their own region - meaning that they get seven games over a weekend to broadcast. CBS and TBS still has rotating Final Four duties. The NIT is also 32 teams, but it is only open to schools in Top 16 in terms of conference RPI. For this season, the following conferences are allowed to send two teams to the NIT: Big XII, SEC, Big Ten, Mountain West, ACC, Big East, Pac-12, Atlantic 10, Missouri Valley, American, Ivy League, Southern, West Coast, WAC, America East and Big West. The remaining 16 conferences are then allowed to send teams to the CBI and CIT, with the second placed teams going to the CBI and third placed teams going to the CIT. Good idea in a vacuum, nothing but champions but as McCall said it would be ratings suicide, and a whole bunch of people would get fired from NCAA as soon as the announcement of the format is done Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 3/9/2024 at 5:09 PM, neo_prankster said: My attempt at a 36 team NFL NFC East Dallas NY Giants Philadelphia Washington Atlanta Carolina NFC Central Chicago Detroit Green Bay Minnesota Tampa Bay Expansion NFC West Arizona LA Rams San Francisco Seattle New Orleans Expansion AFC East NY Jets New England Buffalo Miami Jacksonville Expansion AFC Central Baltimore Cincinnati Cleveland Indianapolis Pittsburgh Tennessee AFC West Denver Houston Kansas City Las Vegas LA Chargers Expansion That's a fun alignment! What cities would you choose for expansion in those divisions that have new teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, BrySmalls said: That's a fun alignment! What cities would you choose for expansion in those divisions that have new teams? AFC West San Diego AFC East Toronto NFC Central Bubble Mexico City San Antonio Oklahoma City St. Louis NFC West Bubble Vancouver Salt Lake City Portland Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 hours ago, McCall said: That would be the lowest rated tournament ever. You have only 5 or 6 "power conference" teams, a few mid-majors and the rest smaller conference schools. You automatically lose more than half your viewership just by cutting the number from 68. Then taking out all but 6 bigger conference schools. CBS couldn't get out of this deal fast enough. That's why I said it was a crazy thought experiment. If they wanted 64 teams, then go with the approach that the NAIA does: The regular season champion gets an automatic bid and the tournament champion gets an automatic bid. If the regular season champion and tournament champion are the same team, then the regular season runner up gets the second bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 14 minutes ago, Seadragon76 said: That's why I said it was a crazy thought experiment. If they wanted 64 teams, then go with the approach that the NAIA does: The regular season champion gets an automatic bid and the tournament champion gets an automatic bid. If the regular season champion and tournament champion are the same team, then the regular season runner up gets the second bid. If you do that for every conference, then you still only have 10-12 power conference schools out of 64. Still going to have low ratings and interest. It's a reality. A tournament dominated, participantwise, by low- and mid-major schools is not going to garner the amount of interest that's going to keep it on par with the tournament as we know it. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 16 hours ago, neo_prankster said: AFC West San Diego AFC East Toronto NFC Central Bubble Mexico City San Antonio Oklahoma City St. Louis NFC West Bubble Vancouver Salt Lake City Portland Great choices, especially for the NFC options! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, BrySmalls said: Great choices, especially for the NFC options! The key is that I want Dallas to keep their spot in the NFC East. And for Baltimore to keep their rivalry with Pittsburgh in the AFC. Option A NFC East Atlanta Falcons Carolina Panthers Dallas Cowboys New York Giants Philadelphia Eagles Washington Warthogs NFC Central Chicago Bears Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers Minnesota Vikings Tampa Bay Buccaneers New Orleans Saints NFC West Arizona Cardinals Los Angeles Rams San Francisco 49ers Seattle Seahawks Portland Platypodes Salt Lake Locomotives (Locos for short?) AFC East Buffalo Bills Miami Dolphins New England Patriots New York Jets Jacksonville Jaguars Toronto Huskies AFC Central Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals Cleveland Browns Indianapolis Colts Pittsburgh Steelers Tennessee Titans AFC West Denver Broncos Houston Texans Kansas City Chiefs Las Vegas Raiders Los Angeles Chargers San Diego Destroyers (Dreadnaughts logo from the Madden games would fit) Option B NFC East *Same* NFC Central Chicago Detroit Green Bay Minnesota Tampa Bay St. Louis, San Antonio, Oklahoma City or Mexico City NFC West Arizona LA Rams San Francisco Seattle New Orleans Portland, Vancouver or Utah AFC East *Same* AFC Central *Same* AFC West *Same* 1 Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, neo_prankster said: The key is that I want Dallas to keep their spot in the NFC East. And for Baltimore to keep their rivalry with Pittsburgh in the AFC. Yeah that is the tricky part of making these realignments, if you make it too purely geographical you risk breaking up historical rivalries I usually put notes to add context to mine lol 1 Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 49 minutes ago, neo_prankster said: Portland Platypodes Interesting team nickname for Portland! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 34 minutes ago, BrySmalls said: Interesting team nickname for Portland! Oregon Duck + Oregon State Beaver = Platypus 1 Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 58 minutes ago, BrySmalls said: Interesting team nickname for Portland! Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, TrueYankee26 said: Native to Oregon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, BrySmalls said: Native to Oregon. Yeah something that would Keep Portland Weird. 1 Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 36 Team NBA Pacific LA Lakers LA Clippers Sacramento Kings Golden State Warriors Phoenix Suns Las Vegas Vipers Northwest Vancouver Grizzlies Utah Jazz Seattle Supersonics Denver Nuggets Portland Trail Blazers Spirits of St. Louis Southwest Oklahoma City Thunder Dallas Mavericks San Antonio Spurs Houston Rockets New Orleans Pelicans Memphis Jackals (name change) Central Chicago Bulls Cleveland Cavaliers Detroit Pistons Indiana Pacers Milwaukee Bucks Minnesota Timberwolves Atlantic Toronto Raptors Boston Celtics New York Knicks Brooklyn Nets Philadelphia 76ers Pittsburgh Ironmen Southeast Atlanta Hawks Orlando Magic Miami Heat Washington Wizards Charlotte Hornets Kentucky Colonels Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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